Use a cheap wifi router usb port and open dmx usb FTDI chip like artnet interface

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pablo trujillo

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Sep 13, 2014, 1:26:14 PM9/13/14
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Hi Simon

My name is
Pablo I want to do a project and I would like to know if you could you help me.
The project involves using a wifi router tp link tl-wr703n and open dmx usb (ftdi chip).
I know, wifi router is easy to hack.
I read about your project artnet node, and saw the codes on your libartnet program.
My question is if I can do the same, but use any Mac or windows software to controller dmx, as also android app or ipad app.
It would be like making an open source controller artnet interface that anyone can use to be cheap.
I don't know if I can use the codes of libartnet to do this or should I use other codes.
Moreover I have to do a firmware with the codes and record them in the wifi router.
I read in openwrt, you can overwrite the firmware of this router.
Make this project is possible, or you think it's a crazy idea.

from already thank you very much

Pablo Trujillo

Hippy

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Sep 13, 2014, 4:17:54 PM9/13/14
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Have a look at this:

http://www.nomis52.net/?section=projects&sect2=netgear&page=about.

Cheers,
Hippy

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pablo trujillo

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Sep 16, 2014, 1:30:41 AM9/16/14
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If I compile into the router libartnet I can use any dmx software to connect with my light or need be OLA

Robb Benson

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Mar 1, 2020, 11:11:12 AM3/1/20
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On Monday, September 15, 2014 at 10:30:41 PM UTC-7, pablo trujillo wrote:
If I compile into the router libartnet I can use any dmx software to connect with my light or need be OLA

Hippy's link above is dead

Did you get OLA to work with FTDI on openwrt?

I can install libftdi with opkg but OLA has no FTDI plugin once installed

Arjan van Vught

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Mar 1, 2020, 12:10:20 PM3/1/20
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Op zaterdag 13 september 2014 19:26:14 UTC+2 schreef pablo trujillo:
Hi Simon

My name is
Pablo I want to do a project and I would like to know if you could you help me.
The project involves using a wifi router tp link tl-wr703n and open dmx usb (ftdi chip).
I know, wifi router is easy to hack.
I read about your project artnet node, and saw the codes on your libartnet program.
My question is if I can do the same, but use any Mac or windows software to controller dmx, as also android app or ipad app.
It would be like making an open source controller artnet interface that anyone can use to be cheap.

You can use a 8$ Orange Pi Zero. Connect the Ethernet from the OPi Zero to the WiFi router.

A full Art-Net 4 open source, cross platform, can be found here -> https://github.com/vanvught/rpidmx512/tree/master/lib-artnet

And ... maybe there is already firmware you can use out-of-the-box -> https://github.com/vanvught/h3dmx512-zip

- Arjan

Robb Benson

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Mar 2, 2020, 1:30:13 PM3/2/20
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On Sunday, March 1, 2020 at 9:10:20 AM UTC-8, Arjan van Vught wrote:

You can use a 8$ Orange Pi Zero. Connect the Ethernet from the OPi Zero to the WiFi router.

A full Art-Net 4 open source, cross platform, can be found here -> https://github.com/vanvught/rpidmx512/tree/master/lib-artnet

And ... maybe there is already firmware you can use out-of-the-box -> https://github.com/vanvught/h3dmx512-zip

- Arjan


OLA installs on a Raspberry Pi with FTDI support too. I thought this thread was about getting FTDI support on OpenWrt - which I would still very much like to see.

Arjan van Vught

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Mar 2, 2020, 1:34:57 PM3/2/20
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Op maandag 2 maart 2020 19:30:13 UTC+1 schreef Robb Benson:
In the original post there is; 'It would be like making an open source controller artnet interface that anyone can use to be cheap. '. Using an Orange Pi Zero is much cheaper than using an FTDI solution. Moreover, when using the OPi Zero, then there is precise DMX timing and there is also RDM support.

Marshall McHenry

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Mar 2, 2020, 1:41:25 PM3/2/20
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Robb, for what it's worth, I have been using Arjans gear for the better part of a year now, maybe longer.  It works VERY well and is extremely inexpensive.



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Peter Newman

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Mar 2, 2020, 2:18:40 PM3/2/20
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Hi Robb,

Can you share your config.log please and which version of OLA you're compiling? At the end of configure it should also list the plugins it's going to compile.

If I was to guess, it's probably just not finding libftdi, so not building support for it.

The OpenWRT package for ola includes libftdi1, so it should all just work:

Robb Benson

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Mar 4, 2020, 3:06:45 PM3/4/20
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 Arjan van Vught wrote:

In the original post there is; 'It would be like making an open source controller artnet interface that anyone can use to be cheap. '. Using an Orange Pi Zero is much cheaper than using an FTDI solution.

Yes, however, the title of the post is " Use a cheap wifi router usb port and open dmx usb FTDI chip like artnet interface" & it doesn't get much cheaper than a $2 RS-485 to FTDI adapter since most people already have a wifi router.
Not to knock OPi, it looks like a cool board/project :)

Marshall McHenry

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Mar 4, 2020, 3:24:31 PM3/4/20
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I think your challenge with the $2 RS485 adapters is that you're relying on the host for proper DMX timing.  I've tried that route more times than I care to admit, and I always got weird flickering or other abnormalities in the lighting.  With a micro-controller based adapter, you will never have those issues.  

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Robb Benson

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Mar 4, 2020, 3:25:42 PM3/4/20
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Peter Newman wrote:

Can you share your config.log please and which version of OLA you're compiling?

The OpenWRT package for ola includes libftdi1, so it should all just work:

I just installed ola after installing libftdi

hmm, i'll try again

Thank you

 

Arjan van Vught

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Op woensdag 4 maart 2020 21:24:31 UTC+1 schreef Marshall McHenry:
I think your challenge with the $2 RS485 adapters is that you're relying on the host for proper DMX timing.  I've tried that route more times than I care to admit, and I always got weird flickering or other abnormalities in the lighting.  With a micro-controller based adapter, you will never have those issues.  

There is also an open-hardware 2x DMX board for the Orange Pi Zero -> https://github.com/victor-lallemand/OPI-zero-2-out-dmx
For just a few $'s more you have a safe opto-isolated solution. 
 

On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 2:06 PM Robb Benson <sf9...@gmail.com> wrote:

 Arjan van Vught wrote:

In the original post there is; 'It would be like making an open source controller artnet interface that anyone can use to be cheap. '. Using an Orange Pi Zero is much cheaper than using an FTDI solution.

Yes, however, the title of the post is " Use a cheap wifi router usb port and open dmx usb FTDI chip like artnet interface" & it doesn't get much cheaper than a $2 RS-485 to FTDI adapter since most people already have a wifi router.
Not to knock OPi, it looks like a cool board/project :)

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Hi Arjan, that is very interesting.  Do you have any pictures of a PCB based on that design?

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Robb Benson

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Mar 4, 2020, 4:46:10 PM3/4/20
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Robb Benson wrote:

I just installed ola after installing libftdi

hmm, i'll try again

Thank you
 
Seems as though opkg is installing ola-.0.10.6 & libftdi1 is in ola-.0.10.7

I think I need to upgrade openwrt 19.07 to get the newer version ola-0.10.7 with ftdi support 

Arjan van Vught

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Hi Marshall,

Op 4 mrt. 2020, om 22:17 heeft Marshall McHenry <marshall...@gmail.com> het volgende geschreven:

Hi Arjan, that is very interesting.  Do you have any pictures of a PCB based on that design?



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Peter Newman

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Mar 6, 2020, 10:15:14 AM3/6/20
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On Wednesday, 4 March 2020 20:24:31 UTC, Marshall McHenry wrote:
I think your challenge with the $2 RS485 adapters is that you're relying on the host for proper DMX timing.  I've tried that route more times than I care to admit, and I always got weird flickering or other abnormalities in the lighting.  With a micro-controller based adapter, you will never have those issues.  

Agreed, although KeeperOfTheKeys has managed RDM via an FTDI, which has some stricter host timing requirements:

On Wed, Mar 4, 2020 at 2:06 PM Robb Benson <sf99er> wrote:

 Arjan van Vught wrote:

In the original post there is; 'It would be like making an open source controller artnet interface that anyone can use to be cheap. '. Using an Orange Pi Zero is much cheaper than using an FTDI solution.

Yes, however, the title of the post is " Use a cheap wifi router usb port and open dmx usb FTDI chip like artnet interface" & it doesn't get much cheaper than a $2 RS-485 to FTDI adapter since most people already have a wifi router.
Not to knock OPi, it looks like a cool board/project :)

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Does libftdi/libftdi0 work with OLA 0.10.6 otherwise?
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