loosing files when i load new files

[Len Cockraft]

hey there 

so when i load up a new esx file i seem to loose the other file s ive allready loaded

so if i go load all to a new esx file then the files that where allready loaded arent there 

anymore, do i need to save every kit as a pattern to have it stored on the machine

and then delete patterns to use that same kit

thanks in advance

[skratchdot.com]

A "load all" will replace all data that is in the Electribe: pattern, song, sample, and global data.

If you don't want to lose anything, do a "save all" (and pick a new .esx file name).

Then you can do your "load all", which will replace all your data, but you can later do a "load all" of the data you just saved.

[Len Cockraft]

thanks jeff

ok i understand that, but does that mean i have to reload things each time i wanna use them 

i use my esx live and its really not cool if i have to load stuff for each track, i should be able to just load the song

what more im asking is ok so i have some patterns on my esx

i want to load a new bunch of samples for anew song

so i create a new esx file, and load it by going LOAD ALL onto my Esx

now that wipes all the patterns i have 

surely im doing something wrong and you can just load esx files up and it doesnt effect anything on the esx allready ?

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[Loz]

Hi Len,

The way that ESX files work is that you have one file which contains all your samples, patches and songs. If you wish to have a different ESX load file per song, you'll need to reload the entire bank.

The way I use my ESX is having the same load file with all my samples, patches and songs, and then I don't have to load between tracks I play out live.

This differs from how the MPC works, I believe, so it might require you to adjust your workflow to match how the ESX works, but once you get your head around that, it works much better, as you don't need to do any loading whatsoever during a live set, everything is ready and waiting on the machine as soon as you turn it on.

However, this does require you to organise the ESX files a bit better beforehand.

Loz

[Len Cockraft]

thanks a lot 

so if im working on a new track that requires samples that werent initally on the esx or in the esx file and are new 

i have to reload everything and create a whole new esx file 

with every song i have, and all the new samples

thanks 

[skratchdot.com]

If you're working on a new track that requires a new sample, you can just use the usual esx method for loading a single sample (you don't have to load in a whole .esx file - which will discard your current info).  All the loading/saving info is in the manual starting around page 85.  Here's how to load in individual samples:

        Loading just a single sample
        from SmartMedia
        You can load individual samples from a file that was saved
        by an ESX-1 or ES-1, as well as loading WAVE or AIFF files.
        Loading a WAV or AIFF file
        1. Insert the SmartMedia into the SmartMedia slot.
        2. Press the GLOBAL key (the key will light).
        3. Hold down the SHIFT key and press step key 16
        (CARD). (Key 16 will blink.) The parameter dis-
        play will show “CardMenu.”
        4. Make sure that the value display shows “Load,”
        and press key 16. The parameter display will show
        “Load.”
        5. The value display will show “All.” Turn the dial to
        select the file format shown in the value display;
        either “WAV” or “AIFF.” Then press key 16.
        6. Select the sample that you want to load. The value
        display will show “Load,” and the parameter dis-
        play will show the “(
        sample name
        )” for samples that
        match the file format you selected in step 6. Turn
        the dial to select a sample. At this time you can press
        the PLAY/PAUSE key to play the selected sample.
        When you have selected a sample, press key 16.
        7. Select the load-destination sample number. The pa-
        rameter display will show “LoadTo,” ” and the value
        display will show “(sample number in the ESX-1’s
        internal memory).” (You can press the SHIFT key
        to see the name of the sample.) Turn the dial to se-
        lect the load-destination number. Already-used
        sample numbers have an asterisk “*” at the right
        of the sample number. Press key 16 to execute the
        Load operation. During loading, the step keys show
        the state of progress.


Good luck!

[Loz]

Aren't you able to load all your samples into one ESX file?

I have multiple sets of samples in one file.

[Len Cockraft]

hey guys 

sorry if i seem like such a moron here, I'm just so used to the mpc I'm battling to get my head around this

i can make multiple sets out of one ESX file, but more what I'm asking is,  say i want to add a new drum kit to the electribe

or samples for a new song, maybe its 10 samples so don't wanna load them individually

want to create a ESX FILE and add it to the ESX file already on the Electribe

how do i do that, as when i ve tried before it deletes all my patterns, i learnt here i wasn't doing a global save

Loz, how do you add to you're existing (ONE) ESX file, when you want new samples to work with, but also want to keep the old ones

sorry if im coming off stupid

and thanks a lot

[Loz]

Hi Len,

This is what makes Jeff's program so brilliant. Before, I'd have to load 10 files manually, and then try to work out where they'd do in the 256 samples that the ESX allows. With the Electribe Editor, you can drag and drop the samples from your computer directly into the program, move them around, and then save it to a single ESX file, which you can then load onto your Electribe. The Editor also allows you to copy tracks directly from one ESX file to another (does it do this with samples as well? - I've never tried it)

The workflow is very different from the MPC, since it basically works around individual samples, rather than 'kits' which the MPC does.

I find it easier to think of the Electribe has more of a drum machine (although obviously with the keyboard, stretch and slice parts it is MUCH more), but a drum machine that you can load your own samples into. And sounds wicked.

I have my ESX set up so I have kick drum samples in 1-20, snares in 21-40, claps 41-30, etc, etc - but how you organise it is totally up to you, this is just how I use it.

Weirdly, I was never able to get my head around the MPC when I briefly tried one a few years ago.

If you like, when I get home, I can do some screenshots of how I use this program for you?

Loz

[Len Cockraft]

Hey loz

thanks man that would be great (the screenshots)

but what im still not getting is how you add stuff to the existing ESX file, then load all without disturbing youre patterns and songs

cheers

[Loz]

Hi Len,

You can do this in the Electribe itself by following the instructions Jeff posted before. This will load samples only, but you can also load patterns and songs from another ESX file in a similar way (can't remember off the top of my head, but check the manual - also available off Korg's website if you don't have a hard copy)

These instructions will add stuff to the existing setup in the ESX (since strictly speaking the ESX save file is an archive of current settings) and not replace anything (so long as you don't copy to any locations with an asterisk when you select it).

Do not do a full write of ESX settings, as this will overwrite the current config. For doing this in the ESX itself, I really recommend going through the manual, as it will explain things a bit better than me trying to do it from memory.

However, the best way to add stuff to a config is to use Jeff's program. I'll provide some screenshots when I get home to explain things better.

Loz

[Len Cockraft]

thanks man youre king 

im probably just being dumb and its so easy

[Len Cockraft]

finally got it 

as i thought i was just being a dumbass

i just need to save each time and add each time re load each new version

very simple just a different way of thinking

thanks very much to Jeff and Loz for their patience 

cheers

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LEN COCKCROFT

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[Loz]

Hi,

No problem. Have you worked out how to do it in the Electribe or with the Editor?

Loz

[Len Cockraft]

with the editor

[Loz]

Cool. Glad you got it working!

[Len Cockraft]

still a little worried every time i turn off the machine with the save part

but it seems to be working, out now

i basically was creating a new esx file each time, and not saving ontop of the original one