Any planned support for the ES-1?

[Matt Brown - nyc]

Hello,

I just picked up an ES-1 yesterday, and I am curious if there is any
planned support for the ES-1?



Thanks,

Matt

[skratchdot.com]

Not in the near term. I've figured out most everything in the es1
file format except the compression they use for storing sample data.
I haven't looked into it for a few years though...

I was hoping though to support all Electribe formats (but that will
probably only happen if other developers get involved- or someone at
Korg can answer a few questions I have). I don't own an EMX to do
testing with, and I can't figure out the compression for ES-1 files-
so I only support ESX at this time.

Sorry about that!

[Nathaniel Steele]

Hi, I'd like to say thanks for the editor and if there is anything I can do to help out I would love to see all electribes supported. I own currently, EA-1 ES-1 ESX and EMX and am looking to get an ER-1 and would even get the old EM-1 if the price was right. If I can do anything to help implement support for any of the other models, I would love to help out. I'm by n means a programmer, I have an associates degree in electronics, which consisted of one Visual Basic class and a couple classes on program motorola HC-11 assembly code, and a a little PIC assembly programming.

I can do file compares on EMX files to help you figure out the format, and send you emx files to test. EA-1 and ER-1 and I assume EM-1 use sysex dumps, I currently only have an EA-1 but I would be willing to do the same for it.

Whats a good hex compare utility?

[skratchdot.com]

Sorry if you're seeing this multiple times.  It looks like the message I tried to send last night didn't go out properly.  Anyways, here's what I typed up yesterday:

Hey-

Thanks for the message.  I've actually been considering making the program a "web app" recently.  Modern browsers support dragging/dropping of files, etc, and there's a lot of good audio libraries out there.

As far as hex editors, the only ones I've really used are listed in the 'credits' of this page: https://github.com/skratchdot/open-electribe-editor

I just created a web audio app (that I'm still working on): http://skratchdot.github.io/audio-sort/index.html  It kind of shows what modern browsers are capable of. I would like to explore that more.

I'm thinking I could port over OpenElectribeEditor to use some of the more modern features of web browsers, and start trying to support different versions of the electribe.

Currently I only own the Electribe SX (and ES-1).  For the "reverse-engineering" of the file formats, I used hex editors, and the "midi implementation" charts provided by Korg.  The file format is very similar to the MIDI format.  For the sampling electribes, the only things that weren't documented were things like sample locations, etc.  To figure that out, it required a lot of "making small changes, saving the file, and comparing the results".

For the MX series- I'm guessing most of the file format follows the midi chart implementation guides.

I'd love some help if I actually start working on a web-based version.  Dealing w/ large files purely client-side will be one of the issues I face, but something that I *think* can be done w/ current technologies.

I definitely like the timbre.js library the more I play with it.  It would be cool to actually play .esx or .emx files on the web!  I think a library like timbre.js may make it possible...

Anyways, thanks again for the message.

/j

[Nathan Steele]

No problem. sorry for the delay here.

I will see what I can learn about the EMX file format. I actually like the editor being standalone, I typically keep my studio computers off the internet. but hey if it goes to a web app not a real big deal.

to figure that out, it required a lot of "making small changes, saving the file, and comparing the results

That's what I figured.....sounds like fun.

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[skratchdot.com]

If I do convert the program, it would work offline.

You could download it, and not have to be connected to the internet to run it.  I just think it'd be easier to get other people involved that way (making it use web technologies). Not sure if browsers can handle 30mb files or not though.

Anyways, thanks for the feedback, and sorry for the duplicate messages...

/j

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[R. Branten]

It's not the near term anymore, any word about ES-1 support?

Op zaterdag 20 juli 2013 03:49:11 UTC+2 schreef skratchdot.com:

[skratchdot.com]

It is kind of pathetic that it's 4 years later :)  A re-write of the program has been on my todo list for a long time now.  I do want to support the es-1, emx-1, and the new electribe 2 models, but other things keep coming up.  I've just had a pretty crazy year, but am hoping to have some time this fall and winter to work on some side projects and business ideas I've had.  I'll definitely post news on my site and this group when a new version comes out.

Sorry for the lack of updates...

[Я. B]

So here I am almost 2 years later asking exactly the same thing as last time ;)

I did read somewhere the process of compressing audio into the Korg ES1 format is not known.