Re: Irelands Draft National Action Plan is published for consultation

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Flora Fleischer

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Nov 20, 2016, 5:44:37 AM11/20/16
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Dear Vanessa,

thank you for sharing links to the action plan and an overview to the response to proposed actions. 

In order to perform analysis on what was submitted and what has actually been included in the draft would it be possible to obtain the following at your earliest convenience, please?
  1. A machine readable table (excel/libre/open office doc, if possible) that links the original submissions to the commitments AND sub-commitments. The table currently provided only links to commitments however each commitment contains several sub-commitments and in order to be able to compare in a timely manner this linkage needs to be understood
  2. A tabular/machine readable version of the commitments and sub-commitments (excel/libre/open office doc)
  3. A word version of the Draft OGP Action Plan
Callouts:
  • Documentation not in a format that can be analysed: Above is required as otherwise an analysis of the Action Plan would take a huge amount of time and is not feasible. There is a risk the deadline of 30th November could be missed by the target audience (civil society).
  • Only 8 Working days to respond: There is an assumption here that citizens and volunteer civil society organisations with full time jobs, families and other commitments are able to analyse, respond and make a submission to the Draft OGP NAP, within 8 working days. The assumption is further that advanced analysis can be completed across multiple disjointed sources of information that don't allow for easy cross-tracking (web tables, web frames, and own submissions). There is a real risk not enough time is allowed for the target group for this piece of work.
  • Possibly missing action? The 'response to submissions on proposed actions' table only contains 118 actions while the original table ‘Possible Actions’ contained 119 actions. Is there an action missing?

Best,
Flora


Flora Fleischer

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Open Knowledge Ambassador / Open Knowledge Ireland, Co-Founder 

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On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 9:27 AM, Vanessa Liston <o...@civiq.eu> wrote:
***Apologies for cross-posting****

Dear participant, 

We are pleased to let you know that Ireland's Draft National Action Plan is now published on the OGP consultation portal
https://consult.ogpireland.ie/en/consultation/irelands-draft-national-action-plan-2016-2018

The Draft is open for public consultation until 30th November 2016 17:00. You can make a comment on the draft by making a submission online or by post, email or phone. Submissions will be published during the consultation period. You are encouraged to submit your comments early, so others can benefit from your views and knowledge. 

Follows is a message from Minister Paschal Donohoe:

I would like thank all those who contributed ideas, either through our consultation portal www.ogpireland.ie, by participating in one of the Civic Forums held to discuss this plan, or directly with my Department’s staff.  All the submissions received, reports on the Civic Forums and an explanation of how they have fed into this draft plan can be read on the portal.

The contributions that were made as part of that initial consultation are deeply appreciated. All, including those that were critical, are equally valid. They come from a belief that we can improve how the state conducts its business.  The commitments set out in this draft National Action Plan are framed at a high level.  They cannot reflect in detail the depth of knowledge, experiences and ideas shared during the initial consultation. We will establish an Implementation Review Forum that will allow people to see how their contributions are reflected in implementing the commitments in this plan. The first Implementation Review Forum will take place in April 2017.

The final National Action Plan will run until the end of June 2018.  The commitments chosen by the Government for inclusion in this plan are those that can be delivered in that time.  The Open Government Partnership is built on continuous engagement with the public and Civil Society.  The Government is committed to improving that engagement and to progressing the ambitions of the Partnership further in future plans.

_________

 

 

Open Government Partnership Ireland
Contact: Vanessa Liston (086) 1408681 | o...@civiq.eu

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Vanessa Liston

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Nov 20, 2016, 7:22:31 AM11/20/16
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Dear Flora, 
Thank you for your comments. As requested, please find attached the word document version of the Draft National Action Plan. This is linked on the portal on the Foreword chapter under Materials. We will include it as an attachment with each section to make it clearer. 

Also attached, is the source excel document of the online table reflecting the link between submissions and commitments. This will be linked tomorrow morning from the description section of the online table. 

Regarding providing the table to sub-commitment level, that has not yet been compiled. I will contact you directly to discuss further.  

No action is missing. The table lists 119 in the 'Possible action list' and 118 in the 'Responses to submissions' table because in the former, the general civic forum comments were listed on an additional row for the 'General submissions' category. These were included on the same row as the General submissions in the latter table. Hence, the difference just reflects a slight reformatting. 


Kind regards,
Vanessa 


Vanessa Liston
CiviQ on behalf of OGP Ireland


On Sunday, November 20, 2016 at 10:44:37 AM UTC, Flora Fleischer wrote:
Dear Vanessa,

thank you for sharing links to the action plan and an overview to the response to proposed actions. 

In order to perform analysis on what was submitted and what has actually been included in the draft would it be possible to obtain the following at your earliest convenience, please?
  1. A machine readable table (excel/libre/open office doc, if possible) that links the original submissions to the commitments AND sub-commitments. The table currently provided only links to commitments however each commitment contains several sub-commitments and in order to be able to compare in a timely manner this linkage needs to be understood
  2. A tabular/machine readable version of the commitments and sub-commitments (excel/libre/open office doc)
  3. A word version of the Draft OGP Action Plan
Callouts:
  • Documentation not in a format that can be analysed: Above is required as otherwise an analysis of the Action Plan would take a huge amount of time and is not feasible. There is a risk the deadline of 30th November could be missed by the target audience (civil society).
              
  • Only 8 Working days to respond: There is an assumption here that citizens and volunteer civil society organisations with full time jobs, families and other commitments are able to analyse, respond and make a submission to the Draft OGP NAP, within 8 working days. The assumption is further that advanced analysis can be completed across multiple disjointed sources of information that don't allow for easy cross-tracking (web tables, web frames, and own submissions). There is a real risk not enough time is allowed for the target group for this piece of work.
  • Possibly missing action? The 'response to submissions on proposed actions' table only contains 118 actions while the original table ‘Possible Actions’ contained 119 actions. Is there an action missing?

Draft National Action Plan 2016-2018 (1).docx
Draft-Plan-Actions-Submission-Responses.xlsx

Flora Fleischer

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Nov 20, 2016, 5:18:09 PM11/20/16
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That's great thank you Vanessa.

We can start with the spreadsheet but it would be really helpful if we could get the sub-commitments into the table as well, as discussed. 


@All,

we have published the text and the spreadsheet version of the Draft OGP Action Plan into public documents that can be commented on. They are hosted here. Here you will see that you have three options to comment:
  • Leave a reply & comments on our website (Path: Projects >> OGP Action Plan Overview >> Ireland's 2nd Open Government Action Plan)
  • Comment on the text version of the Darft OGP Action Plan
  • Comment on the spreadsheet version of the Draft OGP Action Plan
If you're on social media you can also tweet using #OGPirl or tweet @OKFirl


The benefit of commenting on these public versions is that it's probably easier than making a formal submission. It will also allow for a conversation to happen between different members of the public and create a public record that will always be open and transparent. Finally, if you want us to pick up on any of your feedback on the draft plan and raise it on your behalf we'll also be able to do so if you comment on any of these sites or pop us an email (see below).


All the best,
Flora



Open Knowledge Ambassador / Open Knowledge Ireland, Co-Founder 

https://openknowledge.ie/  | @OKFirl 


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