I thought this was interesting

[Frank Perry]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfuesixhfgc

its an interview with Grandmaster Bong Soo Han he is about jck's age
started his training in Seoul. He says at that time Korea was occupied
by Japan. In the schools they trained in Kendo and Aikido. Then the
Korean war broke out and after they would train in Kong su and then
later he learned hapkido. Hence the 4 of 8 martial arts taught as
one.
they would train in the winter (wait for it) Barefoot. In his school
they train with a short Bo called Tong bong. (first time I've heard
anyone other than JCK call it Tong Bong).

Any way if you have some time to kill I thought it was interesting,
and it sheds a little light on where kim came up with his stuff.

[Manik Jamai]

Hi all,   I am starting to get out into the public and teach now, which I sorely missed over the years.  I feel I have plenty of credible training and resources to keep improving and gaining knowledge now.   Anyways, a couple old OYD students came back for a lesson from me last week, and one of them stopped going there only recently.  (I'll leave names and genders out of it)  This person was EXTREMELY unaligned, over-rotating, twisting, etc., when I showed them Pee-Chuan, the first of the 5 elements in Xing-Yi, and a quick application.    I was not too surprised, but I was a little shocked.  This person could move decently from my old "moo perspective" when I was teaching them at OYD.  I'm glad this person realized how much more powerful I am now opposed to then.   They will be back :) --- On Fri, 3/16/12, Frank Perry <frankpe...@gmail.com> wrote:

[OneMindOneSpirit]

Congratulations!

On Mar 29, 12:58 pm, Manik Jamai <mnkja...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I am starting to get out into the public and teach now, which I sorely missed over the years.  I feel I have plenty of credible training and resources to keep improving and gaining knowledge now.
>
> Anyways, a couple old OYD students came back for a lesson from me last week, and one of them stopped going there only recently.  (I'll leave names and genders out of it)  This person was EXTREMELY unaligned, over-rotating, twisting, etc., when I showed them Pee-Chuan, the first of the 5 elements in Xing-Yi, and a quick application.
>
> I was not too surprised, but I was a little shocked.  This person could move decently from my old "moo perspective" when I was teaching them at OYD.  I'm glad this person realized how much more powerful I am now opposed to then.
>
> They will be back :)
>

> --- On Fri, 3/16/12, Frank Perry <frankperry1...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Manik Jamai]

Thanks much...although, to be honest, I have to train alot more, darnit! --- On Fri, 4/6/12, OneMindOneSpirit <mindf...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Manik Jamai]

After reading the info below...I remember all the other Weeklongs I participated in as well.  Compared it to my present training, and the Weeklongs are really not worth anywhere near the amount of $$ they charge.  Yes, you are training in a different environment, and that is cool, great scenary, etc.  Learning a bunch of things that don't relate to anything else you have learned, just more and more forms.  They might make you feel stronger, more flexible, etc., but really don't have much purpose.    "The incredible strengths of Traditional Moo Doe movements...."  Nothing really "incredible" about it, since I am learning on a MUCH higher level than OYD is teaching.  The only thing is that OYD makes everything more exciting, because alot of it is a show - learn this, learn that, etc.  Anyways, what I am learning is just way better, and makes much sense.  That's it for now :)           This year's 2012 weeklong will be held at The Parker Le Meridien in Palm Springs, CA The Power of the Desert The 2012 Traditional Moo Doe Weeklong Seminar program will consist of specific balanced movements that allow the practitioner to receive the most benefit from the desert environment. These movements are very powerful and can be quickly absorbed allowing the practitioner to obtain a tremendous condition in just one week's time - leading to improved health and longevity. Palm Springs was selected for the 2012 Weeklong Seminar to take advantage of the unique energies of the desert environment with its surrounding/adjacent mountains. Benefits to students from the desert environment include: Flexibility and strength in muscles and joints is accelerated Able to connect to, and develop, unused areas of the body more quickly Quickly calming and easier meditation experience through advanced Nae Shim Gong techniques Greatly reduced stress through advanced Nae Shim Gong techniques Increased detoxification Accelerated weight loss 10 Unique Environments Each natural environment has its own unique energies and benefits for training allowing the practitioner to develop the full benefits from the movements - inner strength, connection of mind & body, and fully harmonizing the body. There are approximately 10 different ideal natural environments, including the ocean, mountains, forest, and desert all of which have many variable combinations of vegetation, ground elevation, etc. Over the centuries, true masters chose to practice in specific environments in order to absorb different energies and the methods/techniques that fit these specific environments thereby allowing them to achieve master level. Oom Yung Doe will continue to teach only the Chung Doe line of Traditional Moo Doe. Currently, in the United States, only a small number of schools are able to teach and demonstrate Traditional Moo Doe skill and ability. Students will see live Traditional Moo Doe demonstrations with explanations from the International Level Teaching Team, led by International Level 8th Degree Head International Instructors. They will clearly experience the incredible strengths of Traditional Moo Doe movements. What you see demonstrated in these movements are the skills and abilities you can achieve, allowing you to reap lifelong benefits

--- On Fri, 4/6/12, OneMindOneSpirit <mindf...@gmail.com> wrote:

From: OneMindOneSpirit <mindf...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: I thought this was interesting To: "oomyungdoe_discussion" <oomyungdoe...@googlegroups.com>

Date: Friday, April 6, 2012, 10:38 PM

[Manik Jamai]

This is crazy...what is "The Infinity Series Level 3 Championship Course"?????   Traditional Martial Arts Championships...is this another tournament, like the ones we put together?  Read what they say about achieving a gold medal.  My kung fu brothers cleaned house at the tournament that came here last year, and a couple of them are doing it again this weekend.    Anyways, this is nuts, from my experience.   The Infinity Series Level 3 Championship Courses Level 3 Championship Courses incorporate Key Foundation level adjustments that allow the Mind, Body, and Movement to Quickly Come Together as One (Pyramid Power) (10-11 Key foundation level adjustments focusing on bringing the mind, body, and movement together as one) Brings the inner core, the 3 sections of the body, and the outer extremities together for the deepest internal benefit and the strongest offense and defense from the movement. Proper mental focus on the entire body for the maximum strength and efficiency of the movement: the mind knows what the body is doing, both come together as one with movement. The Infinity Series Championship Course is a personalized coaching program that incorporates foundation level adjustments, which are tailored to the individual's needs. Foundation movements enable a deeper understanding and absorption of the movements in order to quickly improve your condition, skill, and ability as well as provide accelerated training in preparation for the Traditional Martial Arts Championships. Through the Championship Courses the student can fully absorb the movement resulting in incredible mental and physical benefits; achieving a gold medal can only be accomplished through fully absorbing the movements. Every individual s skill and ability level, overall body condition, learning ability, and determination vary; thus, the coaching program is tailored to the individual. The student's strong and weak points are identified and the focus typically begins with the individual's weakest points first. Attention is often placed on the proper development of the upper, middle, or lower sections of the body through Foundation Movements. Foundation movements are also known to address a myriad of issues (i.e. to correct a disk issue which inhibits the development process). The student will learn all the intricacies that lead to the fullest strength, skill and ability and fullest physical and mental benefits of the movement. In addition to the practitioner's skill and ability increasing, their condition will change immeasurably and very quickly with each step of this program. They will usually notice a significant difference within the first week. This allows balanced development in all parts of the body.   --- On Fri, 4/13/12, Manik Jamai <mnkj...@yahoo.com> wrote:

[OneMindOneSpirit]

But you see, that's the right attitude to have. OYD instructors say
"the physical can always be adjusted" as an excuse for their complete
lack of practice. You remember how it was--they totally get pissed at
any instructor who has a moment of free time for themselves. In
reality, no, the physical CANNOT always be adjusted. There have been
well known masters who have come down with health problems and even
died because they sat on their laurels. That's how health goes...and
the majority of OYD people are fat. In the case of martial arts, the
instructor/sifu/master must keep improving their skills or there will
be nothing to teach after a while. While it is possible that I can
improve and advance faster than my teacher did when he was my age, I
won't be surpassing him because he keeps training hours a day, every
day. OYD dupes don't even train.

On Apr 9, 4:55 pm, Manik Jamai <mnkja...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Thanks much...although, to be honest, I have to train alot more, darnit!
>

> --- On Fri, 4/6/12, OneMindOneSpirit <mindfulw...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Manik Jamai]

For sure!

--- On Sat, 4/14/12, OneMindOneSpirit <mindf...@gmail.com> wrote: