Jewish Mensch seeks Jewish Princess
Lanny N Baron
Hi,
I am a 38 single Jewish man 5'10" seeking a warm, compassionate,
striking, Princess to cherish, spoil and love.
If that's you, please e-mail me.
Regards...
Lanny
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Adam John Berk
In <538jbc$f...@freenet-news.carleton.ca> bc...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (
Wait A sec...personals are not allowed?
I dont do it myself, but I respect the rights of other people. I have
never seen any message from my ISP, not to post a personal on
Ont.Singles. THIS IS A FREE COUNTRY!
If you dont like it, than dont respond, its that simple.
_______________________________________________________________________
Applause people, the performance is over!
Monique Comeau
Personals are not welcome in the *.singles grousps. Please do not post
personals here. IF you continue to do so, your ISP will be notified about
your breach of netiquette.
This is merely a warning.
pixie
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"...Keep all your fortune, your fame Monique Comeau
and your glory...give me a place that "pixie"
I can call home..." bc...@freenet.carleton.ca
Damhnait Doyle, Shadows Wake Me s87...@aix2.uottawa.ca
Christopher John Camfield
Adam John Berk (wetb...@netcom.ca) writes:
> In <538jbc$f...@freenet-news.carleton.ca> bc...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (
>
>
> Wait A sec...personals are not allowed?
>
> I dont do it myself, but I respect the rights of other people. I have
> never seen any message from my ISP, not to post a personal on
> Ont.Singles. THIS IS A FREE COUNTRY!
It is part of the unofficial charter of ont.singles (analogous to
soc.singles) that there be no personals posted here. There are personals
newsgroups where you can post personals. This newsgroup is for other stuff.
Your ISP does not have say over what is discussed in a newsgroup. The
people who read and post in the newsgroup do.
Suggest you do a Web search on "Netiquette"... I'm sure you'll turn up
some information there. It is considered rude to post whatever you like,
wherever you like, without consideration for newsgroup communities.
Chris
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Chris Camfield - ab...@freenet.carleton.ca
"You're nothing in the eyes of the world
But you're going up and down in the elevator still..." (FINN)
Angela C. Lukach
Adam John Berk (wetb...@netcom.ca) writes:
>
> Wait A sec...personals are not allowed?
that's right!
> I dont do it myself, but I respect the rights of other people. I have
> never seen any message from my ISP, not to post a personal on
> Ont.Singles. THIS IS A FREE COUNTRY!
and you are free to post your personals in the *.personals hiearchy and
respect the wishes of those who want *discussion* areas to REMAIN discussion
areas, and not meet markets.
> If you dont like it, than dont respond, its that simple.
then why have different newsgroups! let's just have *one* BIG, HUGE newsgroup
all the time where everyone talks about *everything* and you have to sort
out who you want to talk to and what you want to talk about.
get the concept, berk?
angie
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Adam John Berk
In <53b02c$a...@freenet-news.carleton.ca> ag...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
(Angela C. Lukach) writes:
>
>
>Adam John Berk (wetb...@netcom.ca) writes:
>>
>> Wait A sec...personals are not allowed?
>
>that's right!
>
>> I dont do it myself, but I respect the rights of other people. I
have
>> never seen any message from my ISP, not to post a personal on
>> Ont.Singles. THIS IS A FREE COUNTRY!
>
>and you are free to post your personals in the *.personals hiearchy
and
>
should that guy do, post a personal ad and then respond to some woman
from Brazil? Thats not too practical.
respect the wishes of those who want *discussion* areas to REMAIN
discussion
>areas, and not meet markets.
>
Well then, couldnt one just say... respect the wishes of those who also
want to post a personal ad? You can do both, post personal ads and
discussion. All you have to do is skip the personal ads. As for the
clutter? Its mostly the fault of people who dont like personal adds
from posting all those "go away" messages that clog up the site.
Further, its not like their is an abundance of discussion on here
anyway. The only half decent discussion was well, our little flame
war. The rest of the discussion has centered around nothing but
flaming, spamming and congratulating your friends on some good flaming
or spamming. Its pathetic actually.
What exactly our we supposed to be discussing anyways?
>> If you dont like it, than dont respond, its that simple.
>
>then why have different newsgroups! let's just have *one* BIG, HUGE
newsgroup
>all the time where everyone talks about *everything* and you have to
sort
>out who you want to talk to and what you want to talk about.
>
oh really angie??? you seemed to somehow find out that you wanted to
respond to my postings?? given the response and the response to the guy
with the "most women are".. posting, my comments were probably not
typical of the average. But you still managed to find it?
I'll make this easy for you. Look at the subject..if it says something
like Toronto guy seeks... then skip it. If it says something like
."let me tell you a story of my life" .. then read it cause thats
discussion. This isnt a hard concept now is it?
>get the concept, berk?
>
your the one that doesnt understand. sorree
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>name and email address on any email mailing lists is expressly
forbidden.
>Any violation of this will be reported to your postmaster as a formal
>complaint.
Angie.. do you really think the postmaster gives a shit? No offense.
Angela C. Lukach
Adam John Berk (wetb...@netcom.ca) writes:
> (Angela C. Lukach) writes:
>>Adam John Berk (wetb...@netcom.ca) writes:
>>>
>>> Wait A sec...personals are not allowed?
>>
>>that's right!
>>
>>> I dont do it myself, but I respect the rights of other people. I
>>> have never seen any message from my ISP, not to post a personal on
>>> Ont.Singles. THIS IS A FREE COUNTRY!
>>
>>and you are free to post your personals in the *.personals hiearchy
>>
> Actually, I checked, and I didnt see an Ont.personals site. What
> should that guy do, post a personal ad and then respond to some woman
> from Brazil? Thats not too practical.
i can get you the name and e-mail address of the people who maintain the
ont.* hierarchy and you can request one.
and what's wrong with specifying in the *.personals hierarchy that you
want someone in the Toronto, Canada area? *sheesh* berk, that's a basic!
>> respect the wishes of those who want *discussion* areas to REMAIN
>> discussion areas, and not meet markets.
>>
> Well then, couldnt one just say... respect the wishes of those who also
> want to post a personal ad? You can do both, post personal ads and
> discussion. All you have to do is skip the personal ads. As for the
> clutter? Its mostly the fault of people who dont like personal adds
> from posting all those "go away" messages that clog up the site.
no, berk. because then there's no reason to have a discussion group.
> Further, its not like their is an abundance of discussion on here
> anyway. The only half decent discussion was well, our little flame
> war.
you call that *discussion*? *snork*
> The rest of the discussion has centered around nothing but flaming,
> spamming and congratulating your friends on some good flaming or
> spamming. Its pathetic actually.
i don't see you contributing anything of value. unless you *really* want to
include those insults to all women that you posted a while back.
> What exactly our we supposed to be discussing anyways?
life, love, the state of the dominion, food, movies, how to get rid of the
girl/guy who won't go away, how to overcome first date jitters, etc.
>>> If you dont like it, than dont respond, its that simple.
>>
>>then why have different newsgroups! let's just have *one* BIG, HUGE
>>newsgroup all the time where everyone talks about *everything* and you
>>have to sort out who you want to talk to and what you want to talk about.
>
> oh really angie??? you seemed to somehow find out that you wanted to
> respond to my postings??
jeez, berk. you posted flame bait. you asked for it! and Michel and Michael
and i went to town on you. i'm surprized you showed up again.
> given the response and the response to the guy with the "most women
> are".. posting, my comments were probably not typical of the average.
> But you still managed to find it?
so?
> I'll make this easy for you. Look at the subject..if it says something
> like Toronto guy seeks... then skip it. If it says something like
> ."let me tell you a story of my life" .. then read it cause thats
> discussion. This isnt a hard concept now is it?
>
>>get the concept, berk?
>>
> your the one that doesnt understand. sorree
berk, berk, berk - this newsgroup is a DISCUSSION group!!!! not a MEET
MARKET! you're welcome to start your own group for whatever purposes
you want - like talking about how *cute* you are.
but newsgroups have defined purposes, and *this* group's purpose is
DISCUSSION!!! it is NOT a place to post personal ads.
>>Unsolicited commercial e-mail is NOT welcome! Permission to include my
>>name and email address on any email mailing lists is expressly forbidden.
>>Any violation of this will be reported to your postmaster as a formal
>>complaint.
>
> Angie.. do you really think the postmaster gives a shit? No offense.
actually, they do. most sites on the net are trying to get past the bad
image they've acquired through spammers and businesses chasing after you
in your own private mailbox.
since i've been using this sig line, i get maybe one or two commercial
e-mails a week, instead of 3 or more per day. and the postmasters are
very polite and effective in getting the idiots to cease and desist.
angie
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Scott
It never ceases to amaze me how many people have little better to do than
to pick on others. I first lurked here in 1992 and finally got fed up
with people complaining about personal postings. I thought I'd check back
recently and see that it remains the same.
Everyone whines and complains that the group is for discussion of singles
issues, yet nearly a third of the posts discuss the posting of personal
advertisements.
Like it or not, the internet and its newsgroups are changing and growing.
Try being helpful for a change. If someone offends you, e-mail them with
some friendly advice rather than post your diatribe about their
inappropriate behaviour.
I get this picture in my mind of people with no lives leaving their
nowhere jobs and hoping that someone has posted an ad so that they'll
have something to do in the evening by harrassing them.
Live and let live people. Help others out, don't embarass them publicly
and please try and concentrate on more important priorities in this
world!
Flame away if necessary. My mailer has this unique key called "delete".
If I see something I don't want to read, I delete it without reading. A
novel concept I know.
Adam John Berk
In <53dqbh$b...@freenet-news.carleton.ca> ag...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA
(Angela C. Lukach) writes:
>
>>>and you are free to post your personals in the *.personals hiearchy
through netcoms list of newsgroups. My point was that maybe this guy
MISUNDERSTOOD the point of this usegroup. He shouldnt be flamed
becuase of that. There isn't any way to really know about the
unwritten "rules" of this usenet group unless you ask.
>> Actually, I checked, and I didnt see an Ont.personals site. What
>> should that guy do, post a personal ad and then respond to some
woman
>> from Brazil? Thats not too practical.
>
>
>and what's wrong with specifying in the *.personals hierarchy that you
>want someone in the Toronto, Canada area? *sheesh* berk, that's a
basic!
>
The obvious answer is that most people reading the personals hierarchy
(assuming they know there is one, as mentioned) will live in other
areas of the Globe. Thats an ineffective way to communicate.
>> Well then, couldnt one just say... respect the wishes of those who
also
>> want to post a personal ad? You can do both, post personal ads
and
>> discussion. All you have to do is skip the personal ads. As for
the
>> clutter? Its mostly the fault of people who dont like personal adds
>> from posting all those "go away" messages that clog up the site.
>
>no, berk. because then there's no reason to have a discussion group.
now you are ducking the issue. People should just ignore those
advertisements.. than the companies would say "we are getting no
response...no one even reads them" By responidng, even negatively, you
are showing that people read those things, thus they continue.
>> Further, its not like their is an abundance of discussion on here
>> anyway. The only half decent discussion was well, our little flame
>> war.
What was the last issue discussed on this thing? That did not
revolve around someone wanting something ..whether in the form of a
personal ad or a flame? You see, with me, I use newsgroups and the
internet genrally for one purpose only: for fun. I dont care what
anyone does..to each his own. People who care too much about
ont.singles , by posting messages telling everyone how "annoying they
are" are actually hurting the chance for discussion. People should
never be made to feel intimadated about speaking out on anything.
Whats the point of free discussion if its only to say things that you
agree with? Sounds like pretty boring conversation to me.
>> The rest of the discussion has centered around nothing but flaming,
>> spamming and congratulating your friends on some good flaming or
>> spamming. Its pathetic actually.
>
>i don't see you contributing anything of value. unless you *really*
want to
>include those insults to all women that you posted a while back.
>
WHOA!!!! WAIT A SEC!!! Insults to all women?? no way! never! Thats
your version of what I said, not mine. You distorted my words to mean
things they werent supposed to. I have to admit that I distorted yours
too, but I was hoping you would get the message of how unfair this was,
and you would stop it.
>> What exactly our we supposed to be discussing anyways?
>
>life, love, the state of the dominion, food, movies, how to get rid of
the
>girl/guy who won't go away, how to overcome first date jitters, etc.
Really? I think there are movie groups, food groups, life groups, etc.
they are easily obtainable. I have never seen anyone talk about
movies or food or first date jitters or anything like that. Maybe I
will start?
The movie Trainspotting was excellent. It featured almost exclusively
unknown actors, but those actors all gave outstanding performances. It
was far more shocking than any conventional hollywood movie. Its about
heroin addicts and their self destructive natures. However, it is very
disturbing and will offend some..
I also, saw the movie "she's the one". It was pretty unrealistic. One
brother was a new york taxi driver and the other wirked on wall street.
They both got married and basically its about how marriage can't work
because men are inclined to cheat. Both guys were really cute .. but I
can't say that or else SOMEONE might start to flame the movie industry.
>>
>> oh really angie??? you seemed to somehow find out that you wanted
to
>> respond to my postings??
>
>jeez, berk. you posted flame bait. you asked for it! and Michel and
Michael
>and i went to town on you. i'm surprized you showed up again.
>
WHOA!! went to town on me? I dont think so. I think it was the other
way around. Michel and MIchael's biggest insult was that I confused
their names. Not exactly making me cry myself to sleep at night. I
proved that meeting strangers at clubs is relatively safe by referring
to a feminist author didnt I? I got you so upset that you resorted to
calling me by my last name didnt I? I think I'm the one who is
laughing.
>
>berk, berk, berk - this newsgroup is a DISCUSSION group!!!! not a
MEET MARKET! you're welcome to start your own group for whatever
purposes
>you want - like talking about how *cute* you are.
Actually, my discussion will revolve around how great I am in general,
not just how cute I am :)
And how come you keep calling me berk. HA HA . It sounds like you grew
up on the mean streets of Toronto.. WELL you GO Girlfriend!! YOU STEP!
APPLAUSE PEOPLE ..THE PERFORMANCE IS OVER
Angela C. Lukach
Adam John Berk (wetb...@netcom.ca) writes:
> (Angela C. Lukach) writes:
>>
>>>>and you are free to post your personals in the *.personals hiearchy
>
>>> Actually, I checked, and I didnt see an Ont.personals site. What
>>> should that guy do, post a personal ad and then respond to some
>>> woman from Brazil? Thats not too practical.
>>
>>and what's wrong with specifying in the *.personals hierarchy that you
>>want someone in the Toronto, Canada area? *sheesh* berk, that's a
>> basic!
>>
> The obvious answer is that most people reading the personals hierarchy
> (assuming they know there is one, as mentioned) will live in other
> areas of the Globe. Thats an ineffective way to communicate.
well, the main personals group gets hundreds of messages a day, so i'm sure
there are those who are not finding it ineffective.
>>> Well then, couldnt one just say... respect the wishes of those who
>>> also want to post a personal ad? You can do both, post personal ads
>>> and discussion. All you have to do is skip the personal ads. As for
>>> the clutter? Its mostly the fault of people who dont like personal ads
>>> from posting all those "go away" messages that clog up the site.
>>
>>no, berk. because then there's no reason to have a discussion group.
>
> now you are ducking the issue. People should just ignore those
> advertisements.. than the companies would say "we are getting no
> response...no one even reads them" By responidng, even negatively, you
> are showing that people read those things, thus they continue.
i don't read *advertisements* - i.e. spam. those i send back to the
postmaster.
personal ads are another matter. you have to let the *poster* know that
they are not welcome.
> Whats the point of free discussion if its only to say things that you
> agree with? Sounds like pretty boring conversation to me.
who is saying you have to agree with anyone?
what we're saying is - THIS NEWSGROUP IS FOR DISCUSSION, please take your
personal ads to the appropriate place.
within *discussion* anything goes!
you seem to think some mysterious *we* is trying to curb your freedom of
speech.
*we're* not.
but, freedom of speech means i, or anyone else, can damn well disagree with
you and flame you all to hell if we feel like it because you write something
we think is stupid.
*you* seem to be the one who wants everyone to agree with you!
now, just for the record - there *is* a soc.personals, netcom should carry it
since it's part of a Big 8 hierarchy.
and i will get the name of the people who run the ont.*hierarchy just so all
you people who so desperately want to post ads in a discussion group can have
your little playground!
angie
e.a.s.
I've only just discovered ont.singles. My first reaction was "good, it's
nice to have a newsgroup dedicated to posting of personal ads for
singles living in Ontario, rather than looking through all the other
singles newsgroups in other parts of the country and world. I'm not
interested in what singles in LA and Michigan are doing or have to say.
And I hope we don't spend the next 5 months arguing this point and just
get on with providing a well needed service.
In browsing the news on this group, I'd say there is very little being
posted of any significance. I'd much rather see personal ads than all
the other stuff. And, for those who don't want to see personal ads, then
they have a choice of not reading it. It's really very simple.
Christopher John Camfield
"e.a.s." (eaqu...@orbonline.net) writes:
[chop]
> In browsing the news on this group, I'd say there is very little being
> posted of any significance. I'd much rather see personal ads than all
> the other stuff. And, for those who don't want to see personal ads, then
> they have a choice of not reading it. It's really very simple.
How nice of you, a newbie, to tell us what this newsgroup is for.
Can anyone point me in the direction of guidelines for ont.* ng creation?
We obviously do need an ont.personals. (Of course, idiots will crosspost
to it regardless of where they are, rendering it no different from
any other personals group... so speaketh the pessimist.)
There's always ont.personals.whips-and-rubber-chickens, or whatever it's
called. :)
And, since SCK has complained about people posting and without any
discussable content... how about the question of religious differences
between ourselves and friends and family? Talking on the 'Net tends to
bring me into contact with people in the States (not surprisingly) who are
more often members of strong/fundamentalist Christian denominations. I
definitely do not believe in the divine creation of the universe some few
thousand years ago... perhaps I need to learn a little more tolerance.
On another subject, even if I am going alone, I know that I have an
awesome time at concerts of either the Mumbo Jumbo Voodoo Combo (in
Ottawa) or Big Rude Jake (who tour a bit from Toronto). Dance till your
shoes wear out!!!
Angela C. Lukach
"e.a.s." (eaqu...@orbonline.net) writes:
> I've only just discovered ont.singles. My first reaction was "good, it's
> nice to have a newsgroup dedicated to posting of personal ads for
> singles living in Ontario, rather than looking through all the other
> singles newsgroups in other parts of the country and world. I'm not
> interested in what singles in LA and Michigan are doing or have to say.
> And I hope we don't spend the next 5 months arguing this point and just
> get on with providing a well needed service.
that is NOT the purpose of any newsgroups in the *.singles hierarchy.
this is what the *.personals groups are for!!!!
there is a Toronto personals group.
> In browsing the news on this group, I'd say there is very little being
> posted of any significance. I'd much rather see personal ads than all
> the other stuff. And, for those who don't want to see personal ads, then
> they have a choice of not reading it. It's really very simple.
yes, it is very simple.
post your ads in the appropriate newsgroup!!!!!!
Kevin Feenan
ag...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA (Angela C. Lukach) wrote:
>and you are free to post your personals in the *.personals hiearchy and
>respect the wishes of those who want *discussion* areas to REMAIN discussion
>areas, and not meet markets.
I sure Angie really meant to say "meat" markets
Mike Hackeson
In ont.singles,
ktfe...@interlog.com (Kevin Feenan) wrote:
Nope. I'm pretty sure she got it right.
Mike