THUNDER BAY, Ont. (CP) - Police say 27 suspects have been arrested and
charged in a two-year operation against the Hells Angels centred in
northwestern Ontario.
At a news conference in Thunder Bay, Ont., Det. Insp. Don Bell of the
joint forces biker enforcement unit says five full-patch members of the
Hells Angels, one hanger-on and 21 associates face charges.
They are accused of drug-trafficking and other offences.
Police say cocaine, marijuana and other drugs were seized.
Police say they also seized firearms, a recreational vehicle, cash and
other property.
During the news conference, police played a video clip of their entry
into the Hells Angels club house in Thunder Bay.
"The Hells Angels are a transnational organized crime group," said
Supt. J. P. Levesque of the Thunder Bay police.
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Keep investigating HA until everyone of these criminals is in prison!!!
Recently the former President of the Peoria Chapter of the club
recieved a decade sentence for meth dealing and gangster activities
such as threatening to kill everyone in a nightclub that dared to ask
the hick to pay a covercharge. Despite the fact these drug dealers make
millions and own expensive motorcycles they still extort drinks from
terrified bartenders and threaten Joe and Jane Six Pack in bars.
I got a party for ya.....I'm serious. Albeit the house is on the river
opposite a cemetery, I'll guarantee your safety........You can meet
some HA's and then judge.
gutz< I'm open for debate on gangs vrs society ( per se) and business
vrs society>
gutz< yes I am home from 3 .....I dunno.....seems like
years.....prolly weeks from Alberta ( Red Deer ) sad state of affairs
when a whole province doesn't have qualified tradesman to do the work>
gutz
On 19 Jan 2006 13:29:23 -0800, "Greg Carr" <greg...@yahoo.ca>
wrote:
when they control shipping terminals in the Port of Vancouver, Montreal,
Halifax, they're laughing all the way to the bank. (or the bar). their
money is tied up in so many "bonafide" schemes (movie industry), their
politics are so tied up with the labor industry (teamsters --> ask Svend
Robinson how he might go ahead instituting "background checks" for teamsters
who work the waterfront!).
HA and other biker groups have infiltrated labor, politics (port authority)
and even law enforcement (prisons, prison guards) that it's next to
impossible to stop them. Especially when a govt' has no guts.
I suggest not reading as much on the internet and getting out and
learning about life, you talk to much bullshit.
I laugh everytime the media prints something or it appears on TV and
all you guys come out of the woodwork thinking you know something
about the underworld from the safety of your couch....lolololololol
Oh the hound where is the hound.................
Maurice? Maurice is robinhood in the smallwoods just on the outskirts
of Nottnigham... lol
gutz
lolololololol
"when they control shipping terminals in the Port of Vancouver,
Montreal,
Halifax, they're laughing all the way to the bank. (or the bar).
their
money is tied up in so many "bonafide" schemes (movie industry), their
politics are so tied up with the labor industry (teamsters --> ask
Svend
Robinson how he might go ahead instituting "background checks" for
teamsters
who work the waterfront!). "
Yes the corruption is endemic and sad but hopefully that situation will
improve. For years the 81 criminals operated with impunity in the
province of BC but a lot of arrests and convictions have been done here
lately. As well the companies they own have been revealed to the public
so that non-criminals can boycott them. The pictures of HA members have
also appeared in the media which the gang hates.
"HA and other biker groups have infiltrated labor, politics (port
authority)
and even law enforcement (prisons, prison guards) that it's next to
impossible to stop them. Especially when a govt' has no guts. "
True. But it has also been exposed to public view for the first time
which is a start to ending it. To say it is impossible to stop them is
wrong. Very difficult yes but with the coming change of govt in Canada
maybe that will motivate a strategy for more vigorish law enforcement
action. As well as longer sentences for these gangs when convicted.
Beyond me why every member of HAMC hasn't been arrested and charged
under the recently enacted illegal gangs law. Their colours and regalia
make them easy targets.
Happy hunting honest hard working officers of law enforcement!!
I laugh everytime the media prints something or it appears on TV and
all you guys come out of the woodwork thinking you know something
about the underworld from the safety of your couch....lolololololol
Oh the hound where is the hound"
Don't listen to this criminal. I think it is great that the public
finally forced the media to investigate these ppl. CKNW in Vancouver
which is the number 1 rated station used to be terrified of HA. Now
they cover all the stories which make the local media and actually
talked their spokesperson into appearing on the air for 90 minutes. He
let slip that 76% of them had criminal records. Same guy also chickened
out of taking a lie detector test that he was goaded into by Kelowna
RCMP in a media "pissing" match.
"Greg Carr" <greg...@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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No BigScaryBob everyone who disagrees with me is not a criminal. I have
a record myself but I am not a criminal.
When it comes to HA in Wpg you have to do what the club says or some of
them will come around and kick the teeth out of the teenage cuties that
hang around your tattoo parlour. The only thing HAMC likes better than
selling pot, meth and cocaine is torching bars and tattoo parlours.
Keep paying the street tax to the alternative govt and you don't even
get a vote unlike the members.
Remember Christians that getting a tattoo is forbidden by the Bible.
Get your inkwork lasered out once you can afford it.
On the 23rd protest corruption as usual by voting CHP!
"Greg Carr" <greg...@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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> "suggest not reading as much on the internet and getting out and
WOW, I suggest that people like you believe to much of what you read
and don't do enough to actually see if anything you have read is true
and I am a criminal.....
I would suggest that fear mungers like yourself who try circulating
false hoods are far more criminals than those you are talking about.
>"So now anyone who disagrees with you is a criminal?? "
>
>No BigScaryBob everyone who disagrees with me is not a criminal. I have
>a record myself but I am not a criminal.
I believe your quote to my post was "don't listen to this criminal" so
you were indeed calling me a criminal for disagreeing with you.
>When it comes to HA in Wpg you have to do what the club says or some of
>them will come around and kick the teeth out of the teenage cuties that
>hang around your tattoo parlour. The only thing HAMC likes better than
>selling pot, meth and cocaine is torching bars and tattoo parlours.
>Keep paying the street tax to the alternative govt and you don't even
>get a vote unlike the members.
You have no idea about the subject you are discussing, your babble is
simply innuendo, misdirection and pure lies.
Now you bring to mind another simpleton who use to post on here who
also thought he was the leader of the Moral Minority.
>Remember Christians that getting a tattoo is forbidden by the Bible.
>Get your inkwork lasered out once you can afford it.
I'd like you to quote chapter and verse please.
You didn't post any links. It specifically states in the Old Testament
that tatooing is forbidden just as eating shrimp or recieving blood.
Lots of
sights dedicated to exactly the opposite run by Christian types just
like your nutty ass.
"As to the club bothering anyone that isn't down with them, you are an
uninformed idiot."
In Vancouver in the 80s a man and his wife were raped by two men one of
whom told them, "HA is taking over this block." They recieved 20 year
sentences. Sexual assualt and violence against ppl who are law abiding
citizens has been known to occur just because someone in the Hell's
Angels wanted it done. There was also the attempted murder of Mr.
Legere in Mtl, the perpetrators of which went to prison (he made a full
recovery) and of course the eleven year old killed by an HA bomb in Mtl
a few years ago just to name a few. HA is into killing and rape and
prostitution because some members enjoy it.
So maybe you should keep your crap to yourself just in
case some HA types decide to come around and kick your cute little
teenaged teeth down your throat! You are the type who easily buys what
the police and media are selling when it comes to the HAs. Of course we
all know that since communism collapsed in Russia, it's now the HAs
that
are the biggest threat to the world, so peddle your crap to people who
want to believe and don't expected the informed to buy it so easily.
"
I wouldn't be surprised if some of those teens who hang out at your
shop end up addicted to H and selling themselves for twenty dollars in
the Downtown Eastside in a few years.
Hopefully all the HA will end up dead or in prison soon.
This one is good.... A REAL explanation of the Leviticus claim!
http://decapolis.com/faith_/pages/ChristiansandTattoos.shtml
These is too much support out there for it, and besides, if you decide
it was a mistake, God is in the forgiveness business
Here's some nutters just like you. They think that it's all related to
Satan. I'll tell you right now, Satan has never made an appearance at my
shop and it's in NO WAY related to any kind of Satanic practices in
general. Of course there is always a nut or two out there. But if Satan
was real and had any kind of power, we would all be ruled by a couple of
16yr olds who sacrificed their friend to him to rule the world..... it's
been tried and didn't work.
This guy is a true nutter and you should LOVE his crap. Lots of other
Christian sites point out his flaws and errors. He makes some serious
mistakes, just like, so you will worship this guy.
http://www.biblebelievers.com/watkins_tattoos/intro.html
Basically Greg, I'm sure you're probably a nice guy locked in his
parents basement, but you are very seriously misguided. I lived the life
and still have some friends that are living it and you have no idea how
wrong you are about these guys. Sure, some will be involved in criminal
activity, but so are some cops, it doesn't make all cops bad, so why
does it make all HAs bad?
If you pulled your head out of your ass long enough to have a look at
the world, every organization has people in it who are bad, even
Christian groups hide bad guys, look at the BTK killer, he was typing
his letters to the cops on the church computer.
You need to get off this kick you are on with your limited view of the
world. My shop is not in Van and we don't have an "H" problem here. You
couldn't find heroin in this city if your life depended n it. There are
no teens allowed in my shop without parental accompaniment so I think
they are all safe for now. If you actually got out and looked at life
rather than reading news clips, you would find that the world is not so
bad. Hell go by the East End clubhouse and have a beer with the guys and
ask for yourself what it's all about.
But please, if nothing else, stop believing everything the paper is
feeding you about this stuff.
"Greg Carr" <greg...@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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>"Holy Shit (note capitals to pay respect to your religion) you're a
According to Pat Robertson, everything that bad happens to you is
God's punishment. If you are so concerned about the organized crime
group, may I suggest you creating your own justice group.
The Gathering Darkness
Your comments will be duly noted and ignored.
Tatoos are forbidden for Jews and Christians. The only "Christians" who
should get tats are the fornicators who spend more on booze and pot
than they do on charity.
"The old testament says a foreskin will get you a sentence in hell as
well...... "
Believers are required to get a circumsicion if they are male. A little
pain for a lot of heavenly gain. Also reduces the chance of penis
cancer.
"Also you aren't supposed to cut your hair and sideburns..... "
I admit to not following the guidelines on hair. Actually a full beard
is a requirement of Nazarenes which is the sect that Ya' Shua (Jesus)
belonged to.
"Do we really want to go there? It is an ancient text not at all in
time
with the world, are we truly expected to live that way still?
How many people really are living that way still? "
You either believe in the supernatural or you don't. I do and the
ancient texts of the Jews of Israel are the best predictors of the
future I have ever seen. I have found bikers to often be superstitious
ppl so why not get on the side that will win and happens to be correct.
I think we are living in the end times. The Mayans also predicted the
world would end in 2012. George Hapgood I believe has written an
excellent tome using non-Christian texts that predict a world wide
catastrophe soon. His theory being if I recall correctly that the poles
switch violently every 26,000 years. Been around 7 years since I read
it.
"Some Quakers?"
I have the utmost respect for Mennonittes, Quakers and the Amish. I
especially like the digital calendar they once tried but abandoned. It
is a lot better than the Roman one foisted upon western civilization by
the RCC and the uneducated kings of the day. I try to use a digital
calendar myself.
"Certainly not you who is shaking the almighty stick at people.
I had no time last night to put up your links, but I will today."
As you pointed out the LORD forgives but you are suppossed to sin no
more. Getting a tat is frivolous and besides the last time I was in the
emergency room at Surrey Memorial I saw a guy in there with an infected
art work on his arm. Seems to happen a lot even though all the shops
claim to sterilize everything. Maybe too many drugs on the job ruin
quality assurance.
Sober over three years now so any beer drinking is out. I used to drink
in bars that the Hell's Angels owned or were bouncing in. I was so
wasted on pot, Jack Daniels and Kokannee that I never clued in that
Deluxe Entertainment was owned by full patch HAer Elie Bruneau (my
apologies if I spelled that wrong I'm away from my usual PC. The name
was in the Road To Hell book) , Deluxe being the agency that books a
lot of the ladies that work the parlours. Towards the end of my
alcoholism as I drowning my brain in liquid depression I went to the
College Place Hotel in New Westminster and the bar manager surprised
everyone by throwing on 5 girls at once. Big deal, sure they were all
good looking and perky but I've seen more than that at once on stage
before. Suddenly one pulled out a plus 7 inch clitoris. Freaked me
righhhht ouuttttttttt.
Female sexual mutilation practiced by some cultures is wrong!!
I've been to Portage and Main and the crime/drug problem seemed pale in
comparison to Hastings and Main. The only reason I stated teenagers was
because the last time I looked at your web site it showed one adult and
a host of teens out front.
I've seen a lot of the crime the club does firsthand. However I will
concede even I buy into the "cop propaganda" sometimes. A lot of grow
ops are run by Vietnamese gangs etc that have nothing to do with 81 for
example. Anyway if you do a web search you will find a number of
hardcore members who have left the club and found GOD as well as the
usual tales by ppl who just left because their "bros" were going to
blowtorch them in half.
19:22
And the priest shall make an atonement for him with the ram of the
trespass offering before the LORD for his sin which he hath done: and
the sin which he hath done shall be forgiven him.
Made any sacrifices lately to attone for your sins?
19:26
Ye shall not eat any thing with the blood: neither shall ye use
enchantment, nor observe times.
Like your steak rare???
19:27
Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar the
corners of thy beard.
You FREELY admit to this sin
19:35
Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment, in meteyard, in weight, or
in measure.
You do plenty of judging sinner
> "The old testament says a foreskin will get you a sentence in hell as
> well...... "
>
> Believers are required to get a circumsicion if they are male. A
> little
> pain for a lot of heavenly gain. Also reduces the chance of penis
> cancer.
Foreskin casued penile cancer??? How about a few links for this one? I'd
love to see the medical proof for this one Greg!
>
>
> I think we are living in the end times. The Mayans also predicted the
> world would end in 2012. George Hapgood I believe has written an
> excellent tome using non-Christian texts that predict a world wide
> catastrophe soon. His theory being if I recall correctly that the
> poles
> switch violently every 26,000 years. Been around 7 years since I read
> it.
>
Every generation for hndreds of years has beleived that they were living
in the end times. They like you were wrong.
>
> I have the utmost respect for Mennonittes, Quakers and the Amish. I
> especially like the digital calendar they once tried but abandoned. It
> is a lot better than the Roman one foisted upon western civilization
> by
> the RCC and the uneducated kings of the day. I try to use a digital
> calendar myself.
>
So much respect that you are going to join a colony of the righteous
living folks?
See the above verses, tracking time is a sin!
>
>
> As you pointed out the LORD forgives but you are suppossed to sin no
> more. Getting a tat is frivolous and besides the last time I was in
> the
> emergency room at Surrey Memorial I saw a guy in there with an
> infected
> art work on his arm. Seems to happen a lot even though all the shops
> claim to sterilize everything. Maybe too many drugs on the job ruin
> quality assurance.
>
You sin every time you go get that haircut! You knowingly do it as well,
so back up on the kettleblack syndrome.
When people walk out of a tattoo shop and then put their fingers on the
new tattoo, they don't realize they are creating potential infection.
It is not the shops or the artists causing infections in general. It is
the treatment the customer gives it afterwards that creates the
infections.
It is the reason they are given a sheet of aftercare instructions they
are told to follow. Lots don't.
> Sober over three years now so any beer drinking is out. I used to
> drink
> in bars that the Hell's Angels owned or were bouncing in. I was so
> wasted on pot, Jack Daniels and Kokannee that I never clued in that
> Deluxe Entertainment was owned by full patch HAer Elie Bruneau (my
> apologies if I spelled that wrong I'm away from my usual PC. The name
> was in the Road To Hell book) , Deluxe being the agency that books a
> lot of the ladies that work the parlours. Towards the end of my
> alcoholism as I drowning my brain in liquid depression I went to the
> College Place Hotel in New Westminster and the bar manager surprised
> everyone by throwing on 5 girls at once. Big deal, sure they were all
> good looking and perky but I've seen more than that at once on stage
> before. Suddenly one pulled out a plus 7 inch clitoris. Freaked me
> righhhht ouuttttttttt.
> Female sexual mutilation practiced by some cultures is wrong!!
>
You really are whacked aren't you?
How in the hell do you mutilate and stretch a clitoris to 7 inches???
> I've been to Portage and Main and the crime/drug problem seemed pale
> in
> comparison to Hastings and Main. The only reason I stated teenagers
> was
> because the last time I looked at your web site it showed one adult
> and
> a host of teens out front.
>
Portage and Main is noncrossable and the dealers aren't hanging out
there and never have. Another thing you are blowing smoke about!
As to the pic on my website. Those people are a ll my staff and not one
of them is under 20yrs old in that picture, with the exception of my
18yr old daughter who was training as a piercer. You are very quick to
judge aren't you?
> I've seen a lot of the crime the club does firsthand. However I will
> concede even I buy into the "cop propaganda" sometimes. A lot of grow
> ops are run by Vietnamese gangs etc that have nothing to do with 81
> for
> example. Anyway if you do a web search you will find a number of
> hardcore members who have left the club and found GOD as well as the
> usual tales by ppl who just left because their "bros" were going to
> blowtorch them in half.
>
Hell there are even members who turned into informants and left, there
is no reason to believe them either.
You Greg are the worst kind of crusader, you are a reformed sinner and
like former smokers who go overboard, so have you!
I doubt very much you lived much of a life and if you were half the
doped up drunken loser you claim you were, then what you saw and did is
up for debate as to your ability to recall the truth of it.
Like so many other believers you are blind to anything except what the
book tells you to believe.... too bad.
That is the unfortunate thing about you, you think you are unique and
doing good, but you are merely propagating myth, speculation, suspicion
and fallacy and spreading a lot bad ideas without living much of the
stuff you purport to believe. In other words you are just one more
asshole who is full of shit and wants to tell others how to live without
doing it yourself.
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> "Leviticus 19:28: "You must not make cuts in your flesh for a deceased
> soul, and you must not put tattoo marking upon yourselves. I am
> Jehovah."
> Tatoos are forbidden for Jews and Christians. The only "Christians"
> who
> should get tats are the fornicators who spend more on booze and pot
> than they do on charity.
"19:22
And the priest shall make an atonement for him with the ram of the
trespass offering before the LORD for his sin which he hath done: and
the sin which he hath done shall be forgiven him.
Made any sacrifices lately to attone for your sins?"
If I could afford it I would.
"19:26
Ye shall not eat any thing with the blood: neither shall ye use
enchantment, nor observe times.
Like your steak rare???"
Your drug use has addled your brain. This biblical injuction requires
us not to eat blood so if you are a meat eater you would want it well
done if you were a Christian or Jew. Ever hear of tainted meat or
e-coli bacteria killing or making ill those who fail to follow the
biblical injuctions on the eating of food. It has made the headlines
repeadedly.
I'm a blood donor but I refuse transfusions and follow the biblical
reguirements not to eat blood.
"19:27
Ye shall not round the corners of your heads, neither shalt thou mar
the
corners of thy beard.
You FREELY admit to this sin"
I will be forgiven.
"19:35
Ye shall do no unrighteousness in judgment, in meteyard, in weight, or
in measure.
You do plenty of judging sinner "
I'm a pious man compared to the likes of you. My judgements are done
honestly. I don't cheat at measure or weight and for that matter
neither does the HAMC when it comes to meth and cocaine dealing. If you
are a sentient being you will form opinions.
> "The old testament says a foreskin will get you a sentence in hell as
> well...... "
> Believers are required to get a circumsicion if they are male. A
> little
> pain for a lot of heavenly gain. Also reduces the chance of penis
> cancer.
"Foreskin casued penile cancer??? How about a few links for this one?
I'd
love to see the medical proof for this one Greg! "
At a later date. It is a lot easier to clean to. Of course being born
into it makes things a lot easier.
.
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> Sober over three years now so any beer drinking is out. I used to
> drink
> in bars that the Hell's Angels owned or were bouncing in. I was so
> wasted on pot, Jack Daniels and Kokannee that I never clued in that
> Deluxe Entertainment was owned by full patch HAer Elie Bruneau (my
> apologies if I spelled that wrong I'm away from my usual PC. The name
> was in the Road To Hell book) , Deluxe being the agency that books a
> lot of the ladies that work the parlours. Towards the end of my
> alcoholism as I drowning my brain in liquid depression I went to the
> College Place Hotel in New Westminster and the bar manager surprised
> everyone by throwing on 5 girls at once. Big deal, sure they were all
> good looking and perky but I've seen more than that at once on stage
> before. Suddenly one pulled out a plus 7 inch clitoris. Freaked me
> righhhht ouuttttttttt.
> Female sexual mutilation practiced by some cultures is wrong!!
"You really are whacked aren't you?
How in the hell do you mutilate and stretch a clitoris to 7 inches??? "
She was a natural. Wpg strip bars must be rather tame. I remember going
to Las Vegas and being surprised that Vancouver was a lot raunchier
than that overhyped sin city.
> I've been to Portage and Main and the crime/drug problem seemed pale
> in
> comparison to Hastings and Main. The only reason I stated teenagers
> was
> because the last time I looked at your web site it showed one adult
> and
> a host of teens out front.
"Portage and Main is noncrossable and the dealers aren't hanging out
there and never have. Another thing you are blowing smoke about!
As to the pic on my website. Those people are a ll my staff and not one
of them is under 20yrs old in that picture, with the exception of my
18yr old daughter who was training as a piercer. You are very quick to
judge aren't you?
"
It was the last time I looked at it or perhaps they just appeared
younger than they looked. In any case you are 20+ years older than
anyone else.
> I've seen a lot of the crime the club does firsthand. However I will
> concede even I buy into the "cop propaganda" sometimes. A lot of grow
> ops are run by Vietnamese gangs etc that have nothing to do with 81
> for
> example. Anyway if you do a web search you will find a number of
> hardcore members who have left the club and found GOD as well as the
> usual tales by ppl who just left because their "bros" were going to
> blowtorch them in half.
"Hell there are even members who turned into informants and left, there
is no reason to believe them either."
Sometimes the jury believes and sometimes they don't. Why did the club
have them around in the first place?
"You Greg are the worst kind of crusader, you are a reformed sinner and
like former smokers who go overboard, so have you! "
Yes I quit smoking as well even though I was still an atheist at the
time. Only took 47 tries. Having that lung capacity return was great.
"I doubt very much you lived much of a life and if you were half the
doped up drunken loser you claim you were, then what you saw and did is
up for debate as to your ability to recall the truth of it.
Like so many other believers you are blind to anything except what the
book tells you to believe.... too bad.
That is the unfortunate thing about you, you think you are unique and
doing good, but you are merely propagating myth, speculation, suspicion
and fallacy and spreading a lot bad ideas without living much of the
stuff you purport to believe. In other words you are just one more
asshole who is full of shit and wants to tell others how to live
without
doing it yourself. "
Live and learn. I'm living my Christian lifestyle and those who are
faking it will end up in the same place as you do after death.
"Greg Carr" <greg...@yahoo.ca> wrote in message
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