CRS FOLDS(Canada Remote Systems)
Bob Allisat
You heard it... CRS goes belly up.
If you don't believe me give them
CRS Online's David Chaloner a call:
tel 416-213-6000, fax 416-213-6038.
Good riddance... all services will
be folded into IStar Internet the
company that bought out CRS from
Delria recently.
Bob Allisat
The CABAL http://www.servtech.com/public/allisat
... a hypertext novel. Remember, there is no CABAL
Mel Wilson
ale...@zap.io.org (Alex Mac kinnon) wrote:
[ ... ]
Yup. CRS[O] is becoming an ordinary ISP in the iStar stable. Since
it's no longer a BBS, I'm no longer there. I hope the people who are
going to decide that the net is too wild n'wooly make up their minds
soon. If they wait too long the BBS networks will be gone.
Regards. Mel.
Bob Allisat
Mel Wilson (mwi...@interlog.com) writes:
> Yup. CRS[O] is becoming an ordinary ISP in the iStar stable. Since
> it's no longer a BBS, I'm no longer there. I hope the people who are
> going to decide that the net is too wild n'wooly make up their minds
> soon. If they wait too long the BBS networks will be gone.
This is the begining of a long
stream of announcements as the
old dial-up BBS world crumbles.
Wild and wooly it may be... the
Internet has extinguished the BBS.
My only question is: what will
stuff the Internet? I'm looking
and listening *real* hard.
Alex Mac kinnon
Bob Allisat <bt...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote:
> You heard it... CRS goes belly up.
> If you don't believe me give them
> CRS Online's David Chaloner a call:
> tel 416-213-6000, fax 416-213-6038.
> Good riddance... all services will
> be folded into IStar Internet the
> company that bought out CRS from
> Delria recently.
Yes, good riddance to lousy service built by persons who can not
use tech properly "any chimp can run netscape". Sort of like that
Parkdale server
Alex
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Geoffrey Welsh
>use tech properly "any chimp can run netscape". Sort of like that
>Parkdale server
I don't think you know what CRS online was about; it was a BBS, not an ISP.
Although the purchase by iSTAR happened at about the time that I was looking
for an ISP (my e-mail address should tell you that I'm a CRS Online subscriber
trying out iSTAR's service), many of the users were _not_ looking for an
internet connection.
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At home: ge...@zswamp.uucp or [xenitec.on.ca|m2xenix.psg.com]!zswamp!geoff
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at the top, yet hypocritically claims that it offers everyone a fair shot.
So is every other system ever put in place by man.
Geoffrey Welsh
kin...@inforamp.net (J Kirby Inwood ) wrote:
>CRS went under? Marvelous. The idiots who ran CRS (before Delrina)
>deserve only a very long period of unemployment during which time they
>should take lesssons in manners, customer treatment and service.
>Break out the bubbly.
Is this your standard reaction? Are you really that petty? Actually, "go
under" isn't a very good name for what happened to CRS Online. Symantec sold
them to iSTAR, who planned on converting most of the ~10,000 subscribers into
iSTAR subscribers and are closing the BBS in order to push them into
considering the option. I doubt that iSTAR will ever publish figures on how
many subscribers made the switch and how many just found another BBS
(Westonia, Rose, etc.)
I knew CRS Online when it was Toronto RCP/M Systems, on Dundas Street not far
from where I live. The Newells were good people, though at the time I felt
that they were somwehat inclined to categorize the world into '"us" and
"them"'. Still, that left a lot of room for anyone who wasn't blatantly
unfriendly to become part of "us", and that's a feeling you won't find in many
service organizations. Financial problems - IMHO based at least in part on
the hit that discount retailers were making on smaller hardware vendors -
forced Jud & Co. to sell to a mystery organization fronted by Neil Fleming (to
this day, I'd like to know who that really was). This signalled a new surge
to CRS' growth and, to some degree, a reduction in the friendly, family
atmosphere that prevailed when most of the staff were related to one Newell or
another and the office was far more open and inviting even outside times like
their Open House.
The 'new' Canada Remote Systems dropped the hardware sales and concentrated on
what they did best and what discount stores couldn't compete with: services.
The name change to CRS Online reflected this new focus. They expanded into
new fields, including very rudimentary character-mode internet access when
there were very few affordable alternatives (the most notable were the two
public access UNIX sites that later became Internex Online). They also
started to develop Frontier, a nifty product that incorporated the best ideas
from RIP terminals, the big online services' proprietary client software, and
a growing suite of internet applications.
Last year, the low-profile owner sold to Delrina, and Mark Skapinker went on
the media talking about how exciting this all was... but Delrina did nothing.
When Symantec bought Delrina, I think that they had even less of an idea what
a BBS was and what to do with it, and the sale to iSTAR followed soon after.
I thought that perhaps iSTAR was after Frontier, which had finally reached the
point where it was not only a graphical BBS client but also a viable
alternative to many of the internet starter kits on the market. I had hoped
that iSTAR would consider CRS Online a unique feature to offer its clients,
not a stocked pond which they could drain in order to catch more fish for
their aqarium.
<sigh>
J Kirby Inwood
>>Yes, good riddance to lousy service built by persons who can not
>>use tech properly "any chimp can run netscape". Sort of like that
>>Parkdale server
CRS went under? Marvelous. The idiots who ran CRS (before Delrina)
deserve only a very long period of unemployment during which time they
should take lesssons in manners, customer treatment and service.
Break out the bubbly.
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J Kirby Inwood Creative Services, DTP, Advertising and Copy Writing
Toronto Fax 416 778 5194 <http://www.inforamp.net/~kinwood/>
Jeff Joseph
(Bob Allisat) wrote:
>karl mamer (kam...@zap.io.org) writes:
>>
>> Maybe that's your problem, eh bob? If you really think
>> there's a system on earth that provides the answer,
>> you're dumber than you look.
>>
> There is a system that provides
> the answer. Gaia. And not only is
> it on Earth it is Earth. So I guess
> I only look smarter than I am, eh?
Excuse me. I'm going to have to borrow your "laugh track" for a sec.
hahaha hoohoohoohoohoohoo hahahahahahahahah
GAIA. Well, you just made my day.
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Jeff Joseph Madness Tour '96
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irrational" - Bob McCown, The Fan 590.