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Who are the most loyal to the Queen, conservatives or liberals?

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Robert Peffers

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Oct 28, 2009, 3:30:15 AM10/28/09
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Despite I am not much of a Monarchist myself being a lifelong member
of the Scottish National Party, which campaign for an independent
socialist Scottish republic, this polls is nevertheless insightful as
it shows just how Americanized and Republicanized (both in the sense
of a Republic and the American Republican Party) the Conservative
Party of Canada has become. The old Canadian Red Tory-style
Conservative model of the former Progressive Conservative Party of
Canada with its High Tory British values and traditions, and its
middle class and upper middle class Central Canada based membership no
longer exists. Instead, the American Republican-style Conservative
model of the current Conservative Party of Canada with its ignorant,
uneducated, common, low class, blue collar, pedestrian level, mean
minded, judgemental, frugal, sour, dour, spiteful, Cromwellian
Protestant, populist, anti-Quebec, anti-bilingual, anti-multicultural,
anti-immigrant, racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Anglo
Chauvinist, Redneck, trailer trash, Western Canada based membership is
now the norm.

It's usually assumed that politically conservative Canadians represent
the most reliably pro-monarchy bloc in the country. After all, the
modern Conservative Party is supposed to be the heir to the Tory
tradition of yore, and the party that once made respect for King,
Empire, and hierarchy a key component of their partisan raison d'être.
When the Alliance merged with the Progressive Conservatives in 2003,
Peter MacKay even demanded that the new Conservative Party of Canada
include some language about "honoring Canada's constitutional
monarchy" in their founding charter.

A fascinating new poll released by Angus Reid now casts doubt on that
little piece of conventional wisdom, offering findings that should
come as vindication to conservative republicans, a disappointment to
old-school Tories, and a surprise to the left.

While all voters generally hold roughly similar views on the status of
the crown, Liberals and NDPers are now more likely to support the
continuation of the monarchy in Canada than Conservatives, and
Conservatives are now the group most likely to "strongly support" the
idea of breaking with the crown.

If these numbers are to be believed, Conservatives are the most likely
to be the strongest republicans, while NDPers are most likely to be
the strongest monarchists. It's also worth noting that Conservatives
have the lowest rate of "undecideds" on this issue, at only 3%,
compared to 7% for Liberals and 8% for NDPers. The monarchy is an
issue that is increasingly transcending traditional assumptions of
right vs. left, as political opinions readjust to a changing Canadian
reality.

Today, left-wing Canadians are generally the most likely to be
sensitive about differences between Canada and the United States, and
thus most likely to defend institutions that promote those
differences. The monarchy is obviously one such institution.

Conservatives, especially those of the former Reform/Alliance strain,
are individuals who are generally the most likely to favor cutting
government expenses and reforming parliamentary institutions. The
monarchy is an expensive institution that doesn't do much, therefore
it's unsurprising that it's generally unliked by the same party that
favors making the senate elected.

Make no mistake here. The Conservative Party of Canada is hell bent on
Americanizing Canada as much
as possible. Western Canadian Reform/Alliance Rednecks have no respect
at all for the centuries old
British Red Tory-style Conservatism of Benjamin Disraeli, Sir John A.
MacDonald, Sir Robert Borden,
John Diefenbaker, Robert Stanfield and Joe Clark.

The Western Canadian Reform/Alliance Rednecks all worship Ronnie
Reagan and Georgie Bush instead.

http://angusreidstrategies.com/uploads/pages/pdfs/2007.10.01%20Monarchy%20Press%20Release.pdf

Robert Weldon

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Oct 28, 2009, 12:22:06 PM10/28/09
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"Robert Peffers" <auldbobp...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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-usual Peffers crap snipped.

Since the monarchy is essentially a figurehead, and has been in all reality
since 1982, what difference does it make? And again, as you have been told
before, western Canada, and in particular Alberta, has the highest
percentage of university and college educated people in the country. It also
has a large french heritage, and a growing immigrant population, so your
very inaccurate portrayal of westerners merely highlights your own bias,
bigotry and racism. Can you say projection little man? I knew you could.

Polack

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Nov 7, 2009, 11:38:32 PM11/7/09
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On Oct 28, 8:22 am, "Robert Weldon" <robor...@live.ca> wrote:
> "Robert Peffers" <auldbobpeffer...@gmail.com> wrote in message

fuck thequeen in the ass till it bleeds

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