FYIHelvetica Neue is not a WIndows system font. It is a system font that is bundled with recent versions of the MacOS with some form of the words Helvetica and Neue in the name of the font. If you opened an InDesign document with that font missing, it is likely (but not necessarily) a document recently processed on a Macintosh.
Unless you get the font file itself from whoever created or last worked on the document and used that font (assuming that the font is either an OpenType or a Windows format TrueType font and that you can legally use the font), you may need to separately license Helvetica Neue from any one of the font foundries with a Helvetica Neue family. The name might not match exactly (actually, probably won't match exactly) and you may need to make adjustments in your document to use name of the font that you do license.
FWIW, your experience is not uncommon. There are hundreds of different variants of Helvetica, Times, Arial, etc. that share the same names, but are slightly different. In this particular case, having a slightly different name is probably for the best if you can't get the exact same font, because it will force you to look for any problems that the replacement font may cause (slightly different metrics, styles, etc.).
As far as I know, Apple does not license its version of HelveticaNeue for use on other platforms and even if the font is in OpenType or Windows TrueType format and could be copied to a Windows system, you are probably in violation of the licensing conditions for that font under MacOS X. The closest you may come to the exact HelveticatNeue on the Macintosh may be available from Monotype or Linotype on-line at their web sites.
Look here for Adobe's offerings in terms of Helvetica Neue. And yes, the font family name is in fact Helvetica Neue. Each member of the font family (51 styles in total) has a name that begins with Helvetica Neue Std.
Helvetica Neue Font is a sans serif typeface. This font was developed by famous typeface designers Max Miedinger and Eduard Hoffmann. This font family includes fifty one styles and nine weights with three widths. It also contains the condensed and extended styles.
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This typeface is the second version of Helvetica font. This font was released by Linotype typeface foundry. later, in 2004 Linotype released the pro version of Helvetica neue, which also is available in OTF format and support multiple languages.
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TYPOGRAPHIC HELP! Any thoughts? Neue Helvetica is a resident font on Apple. As such it cannot be disabled, deactivated, hidden, deleted, removed. The system and Font Book do not have the complete family. This means you have to have another version /source. Herein is the confusion. Both will display in font lists within software. This means you could inadvertently end up with a mix of sources. Apple displays as light, bold, etc The other source displays as the numerical system 45, 65, etc. Adobe InDesign seems to display using the numerical system and therefore which one are you actually using? Affinity Publisher mixes everything up with two lists of Neue Helvetica in the list. If you have both open then Font Book will alert you to the issue that you have 'multiple' copies open. Multiple suggests lots and not two sources. Confused? I'm not sure there is any way around this. Am I wrong?
One potential method to fix this would be using a font editor and rename the family of the non-Apple Helvetica Neue to something else. It is of course a large family so maybe quite a nuisance, and would or course require a specific tool.
It looks from your screenshot that your Apple and Adobe versions are in the same list but fortunately sorted out. Mine are a little bit mixed up between the two sets. I don't know what the original source is. I used to work at a University where the Adobe license and typefaces were taken care of. I've left now and the laptop was taken back and the account closed. Hence the move to Affinity. The source of the other typeface might be someone who I worked with who artwork a publication and then packaged the job so I could check it. That person unfortunately died. So am figuring things out. I can't deactivate the Apple resident fonts so they have to appear. Both my sources appear in Publisher so maybe I just need to take more care selecting and then check fonts when packaging for output. Whilst the Publisher displays the fonts. Font Book alerts that there are multiple copies. Maybe this doesn't mean much. Screen shots attached. Of course I could delete my other source and buy a new set from Font Shop (165). I think the same thing will happen in that the Apple Version will display alongside the bought version.
Yes, the both Helvetica Neue versions on your computer seem to have same or close to same family names (perhaps a space character is not enough to separate the names, unless the app can make a difference when enumerating the fonts).
Font editors typically use the FamilyName as a base, and then other parameters to build several other names to create a unique set of font names to avoid name conflicts. Since e.g. PostScript name seems to be built based on Family name (spaces removed and style name appended by other parameters), it may be that at least certain fonts that have close to identical family names, end up having fully identical secondary names (like PostScript name).
If an app enumerates fonts based e.g. on PostScript body (the first part of the name), name conflicts would happen and all kinds of issues related to this problem. I do not think that it is possible to resolve the issue unless the family name of one of the conflicting font is changed and sub names thereafter rebuilt. As mentioned, the problem is often app-specific, depending on whether an app uses multiple name fields to deduce how individual fonts should be grouped and identified.
If name editing is not an option, you could try if just removing the exactly conflicting fonts from the non-Apple family would make it possible to use all sub styles of these fonts, even if from mixed families. The Font Book is probably good enough tool to do this task, as it allows just deactivating conflicting fonts without needing to uninstall them.
It looks from your screenshot that your Apple and Adobe versions are in the same list but fortunately sorted out. Mine are a little bit mixed up between the two sets. I don't know what the original source is.
The macOS Helvetica Neue is also broken. It may work in Apple applications and most of Adopey apps, but it will never work properly in Word, LibreOffice, and apps like Affinity. Apple did this on purpose to prevent others from using their fonts.
Helvetica Neue LT Std (which is easy to find as it is in the old Adobe Font Folio 11) has a different family name so there will be no name conflicts like you have now. Same with Helvetica Neue LT Pro.
BUT, both of those font families are configured with multiple R/I/B/BI style groups (2), and Affinity apps do not handle multiple R/I/B/BI style groups well. The fonts may or may not work properly. They may appear to work and then you may have the wrong font(s) get embedded in a PDF.
Thanks kenmcd and lacerto for your responses. Appreciated. I'm not sure what R/I/B/BI is but I assume it is the way fonts are named. There is the Apple resident Neue Helvetica and the other one I have. The other one is from a legitimate source. It was from a designer I knew who was in a commercial studio and we would have used it on a print job when we were both working at a university. We are both Apple Mac users. A former colleague has also confirmed that system fonts clashing with external fonts is a common problem. Helvetica Now is a reasonable suggestion but is quite expensive now that i am retired. This version of NH -helvetica-pro-basic-family-package-379965 is priced at 164 and is quite reasonable. My alternatives are buy this fresh. Push on with what I have on my system. Dig out my old computer and see what version I had back then which again I think will be legitimate.
You can PM me to tell some details of this other font. Depending on a bit on details, it might be an easy task to prepare you a version that works fine on you current system, without causing conflicts with the internal macOS version. R/I/B/BI refers to Windows kind of four-style menu names which need to be consistently created to make super families like Helvetica Neue work. I think that Affinity apps and apps generally on macOS basically ignore this system and have other means that help grouping fonts. But name conflicts occur all the same, but for other reasons than confusion of four-style menu names. As I have the macOS versions installed, I could have a peek on your font and see what it takes to make a fix.
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