Truth Must Exist Independent of Observation or Truth Does Not Exist

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If it is dark outside and I fail to see it, is it less dark outside?

If I fail to notice the darkness, does the darkness cease and give way
to light?

If I say to you, imagine a rose in rich detail (and I urge you to,
please do)
[beat]
=the details of the rose you conceived in your mind

Does the color of the rose you imagined depend on your conveyance of
this information to me?

Truth is not subjective. Truth is supreme.

God is humbled by truth.

This is not an esoteric statement or a cryptic syllogism.

This is not the and/or Boolean formulation of an abstract idea
designed to profess to you your own striations.

This is a declaration independent of your approval.

You will believe what you believe and I will believe what I believe
and YET THE TRUTH EXISTS.

It is concrete as concrete is concrete. TRUTH TRANSCENDS

"If I say something, and you understand what I mean, am I not using a
word? What is a word? I thought it was something we speak in order
to communicate an idea or concept. It's a symbol for something. So if
I speak a word, and you understand it perfectly, but it isn't in the
dictionary, what are people saying when they say it isn't a
word?" [read on the Internet]

Truth exists. All of it is true. It always will be. It always has. It
never was not. It was always.

Logic is truth. Without truth in pure form logic is lascivious reason.

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[Abram Demski]

Hi,

I agree with your statements. Of course, there are some who
wouldn't... but I do not see any reason to stray...

There *are* complications. Do you take facts of arithmetic to be
true/false, or merely constructed (in which case, facts about what we
have decided would be true/false, but statements in mathematics would
be mere scribblings on a chalk board, not *essentially* true or
false)? If yes, then what of facts of set theory? What of formally
undecidable propositions?

My answer is still the same, but it gets less obvious, I'll admit.

--Abram

--
Abram Demski
http://dragonlogic-ai.blogspot.com/
http://groups.google.com/group/one-logic

[Vladimir Nesov]

Abram:
http://xkcd.com/632/

--
Vladimir Nesov

[Abram Demski]

Vladimir,

http://media.urbandictionary.com/image/large/srsly-40514.jpg

[Vladimir Nesov]

Still, pretty interesting. Was this automatically assembled? From what
sources and what was used as criteria for selection? Are there other
examples or info on this thing? I found a couple of identical posts
elsewhere, but it's hard to believe this was done manually...

--
Vladimir Nesov

[Abram Demski]

Vladimir,

My guess: grab a rant from an apparently related blog. Maybe the
search engine that's being advertised is doing it using their own web
indexing (impressed by the quality of their own results, they think to
themselves: "hey, we could imitate humans with this") or maybe it's
just a hired spammer.

Anyway, I'll moderate more carefully in the future.

--Abram