Re: Digest for on-science-and-sustainability-working-group@googlegroups.com - 4 Messages in 1 Topic

[sparrow]

i have supplies and electric but cannot get them out to you all.
note that we also depend very much on gasoline and a working rail system.

On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 10:40 AM,
<on-science-and-sustai...@googlegroups.com> wrote:
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> Hurricane Response [4 Updates]
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> Hurricane Response
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> Lily Naha <lily...@gmail.com> Nov 01 01:19AM -0400
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> Hi everyone,
>
> Not sure how many of you have internet. I just got it back, myself.
>
> I'm temporarily back in NJ and staying with some friends. Are any of you
> planning to get together this Saturday? I could probably make it.
>
> I know here in New Brunswick a lot of people are staying in cots at the
> Lord Stirling elementary school. People from the nearby areas are staying
> in the recreation centers on Busch and Livingston campuses in Piscataway,
> where I'll probably be going tomorrow to see what folks need.
>
> Here I've been looking at a network of Occupy activists who are
> coordinating emergency relief in New York boroughs:
> http://interoccupy.net/occupysandy/#2
>
> I'd like to see how we can work with them, and I'm wondering who we can
> reach out to around Jersey to respond to what's happening here. Any ideas?
> I hear that people are having trouble getting to food in Perth Amboy, and
> I'd like to hear more your updates on the Newark situation, or wherever you
> happen to be.
>
> The Occupy Sandy Relief efforts in New York are coming from a coalition
> with 350.org, which brings people together around the climate crisis.
> Updates from the boroughs are being posted here:
> https://www.facebook.com/OccupySandyReliefNyc
>
> I wonder how many people here didn't know when water-boiling advisories
> were issued- without phone or internet, having no way to get them. I was
> talking about this with some people at a Highland Park church that was
> offering relief services today, about how in the past the city would send
> vehicles through the streets with loudspeakers to make sure everyone knew.
> How do we lessen the risk of people drinking toxic water in the future?
> What else can we do in advance of future upheavals to decrease the danger
> we're in? What immediate things can we do to offer the most relief now?
>
> Hoping you're all safe and well. Happy Halloween,
>
> Lily
>
>
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> Cass Gonmiah <cassj...@yahoo.com> Nov 01 12:40AM -0700
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> We still don't have electricty here in the South Ward but alot of places
> near me, including right down the street, have power. I'm in my estranged
> husband's car right now charging my phone. The only relief I know
> of(unfortunately I am abit out of the loop right now) is @ Speedway
> Elementary(Vailsburg, West Ward, next to GSP) where they are preparing hot
> meals & bag lunches for stranded residents. They delivered a hot dinner to
> the residents of the building where my greenhouse & rooftop garden are. I
> need help cleaning up and securing my wind blown plants :) I don't have
> transportation but I have a gas stove and can COOK, if that could help. I
> can also make candles but need supplies. I am available for ANY Relief
> Effort if transportation is available. Cass (862)218-3941 320 W Runyon
> Newark 07108 ------------------------------ On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 5:19 AM GMT
> Lily Naha wrote: >Hi everyone, > >Not sure how many of you have internet. I
> just got it
> back, myself. > >I'm temporarily back in NJ and staying with some friends.
> Are any of you >planning to get together this Saturday? I could probably
> make it. > >I know here in New Brunswick a lot of people are staying in cots
> at the >Lord Stirling elementary school. People from the nearby areas are
> staying >in the recreation centers on Busch and Livingston campuses in
> Piscataway, >where I'll probably be going tomorrow to see what folks need. >
>>Here I've been looking at a network of Occupy activists who are
>>coordinating emergency relief in New York boroughs:
>>http://interoccupy.net/occupysandy/#2 > >I'd like to see how we can work
> with them, and I'm wondering who we can >reach out to around Jersey to
> respond to what's happening here. Any ideas? >I hear that people are having
> trouble getting to food in Perth Amboy, and >I'd like to hear more your
> updates on the Newark situation, or wherever you >happen to be. > >The
> Occupy Sandy Relief efforts in New
> York are coming from a coalition >with 350.org, which brings people together
> around the climate crisis. >Updates from the boroughs are being posted here:
>>https://www.facebook.com/OccupySandyReliefNyc > >I wonder how many people
> here didn't know when water-boiling advisories >were issued- without phone
> or internet, having no way to get them. I was >talking about this with some
> people at a Highland Park church that was >offering relief services today,
> about how in the past the city would send >vehicles through the streets with
> loudspeakers to make sure everyone knew. >How do we lessen the risk of
> people drinking toxic water in the future? >What else can we do in advance
> of future upheavals to decrease the danger >we're in? What immediate things
> can we do to offer the most relief now? > >Hoping you're all safe and well.
> Happy Halloween, > >Lily > >-- > > >
>
>
>
> ellen <rashe...@yahoo.com> Nov 01 02:24AM -0700
>
> good questions.
> I hope that one lesson people will draw from this calamity is the
> uselessness of cells and social media during a real disaster. (altho I
> doubt that they will. People never want to recognize an addiction.)
>
> for example of Occupy Jersey's 57 people on an e-mail list, I only know the
> address of ONE person. So I have no way to reach out to anyone else. to see
> if they are ok, to offer help, to get help, or to talk about how to help
> others.
>
> One of the few good things I take away from this storm is driving around my
> town and seeing knots of people on the street TALKING to each other, not
> interrupting their conversations to take cell calls, but talking to each
> other.
> I don't know about others, but in my world, this is increasingly rare.
>
> Yet, revolutions are made out of relationships that people form with one
> another, relationships that are made face-to-face, not mediated by
> electronic tools.
>
> ellen
>
> [Lily, I will e-mail you Larry's # separately.]
>
>
> On Thursday, November 1, 2012 1:19:48 AM UTC-4, lilynaha wrote:
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> Tobias Fox <tobia...@gmail.com> Nov 01 09:39AM -0400
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> Peace Lily, Cass, Ellen, and the rest of the SAS community. So glad to hear
> from you Lily and that you're back in New Jersey. Looking forward to
> catching up with you.
>
> This storm really caught a lot of us off-guard. But get this, we haven't
> even gone through winter yet.....
>
> We really need to continue working collectively together with our
> technicians, carpenters, farmers, and community organizers on developing
> and supporting effective methods of making our communities far more
> sustainable and exposing how outdated our methods are. People rushed out to
> spend so much money on food items to find themselves trying to cook
> everything because they were without power and fear of the food going bad.
> Many supermarkets and stores where without phone lines and power so
> credit/debit cards and EBT cards (food stamps) became useless. Store owners
> were accepting CASH ONLY in a nearly cashless society.
>
> When I lost power I also lost usage of my electric stove, internet, cell
> phone, and hot water. Good thing I live in a 100 year old house with Mary
> Larsen and she still has a wood stove and a crank radio. We also had plenty
> of candles and flashlights, wood, and the 7 of us (that's not including 1
> dog, 3 cats, and 6 or 7 birds) to keep each other company.
>
> I live in the downtown business district and this could be partly the
> reason why our power was restored so quickly. I was able to ride around
> town in Mary's car and saw a lot of the damage that has occurred in Newark.
> Neighborhoods were and still are without power including gas stations and
> no street lights for traffic control. To my surprise, The People's Garden
> was fully intact. Our loose plastic bottles where thrown around, but our
> plastic covered raised beds were still as I left them the day before and
> our greenhouse was still standing. Through our rain gutter, we were able to
> collect a lot of rain water. Good thing the plastic bottle walls weren't
> put up. That might've came down by the force of the wind.
>
> With our raised beds, what Dina and I did was turn them into a mini
> greenhouse or hot bed by covering them with plastic and punching holes in
> the roof of the plastic so some rain water could get in and water the
> plants. As most of you know, we have UVC pipes attached to the outside of
> the raised beds, creating a hoop over them. We laid plastic over the hoops
> and tapped (with Gorilla tape) the bottom of the plastic down to the raised
> bed then stapled through the tape and plastic into the raised bed.
>
> You can view images at
> http://www.sasupdates.blogspot.com/2012/10/report-back-saturday-october-13-2012.html
>
> I'm about to bundle up and ride my mountain bike out to visit and check on
> family and friends. Let's continue to keeping each other updated.
>
> Tobias A. Fox
> Community Organizer
> Cell: 646-399-0337
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[Tobias Fox]

Hey Monica. It's really good to hear from you. Thanks for checking in.

Tobias

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