[OMG] RedBull Creation Contest

[Brandon Norris]

Does anyone want to enter this with me? It seems like we could make something really cool for it.

http://creation.redbullusa.com/

-Bradnon

[Eric Kaplan]

I'm in!

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[Travis Smith]

This looks pretty awesome.  Yes.

Travis

[Brandon Norris]

OK. We need a team name

[Eric Kaplan]

OMGMF's

[Eric Kaplan]

OMGFTW!

[patrick]

I'll help if you want.

[Brandon Norris]

Ok, so I just got a response from red bull last night. The application was accepted and they are sending a "Bullduino" to be a part of our project.

If you google it other teams seem to have already gotten theirs and have posted details of it online. Its basically an arduino uno board clone with huge redbull logo pcb

We need to think of a project, whos only criteria is to have the bullduino be a part of it. any ideas?

Hopefully it will be here today or tomorrow, so we can play with it, but of not we can have a standard arduino stand in until it gets here.

We are supposed to have a video introducing the team, and showing off the project by the 3rd. I will probably try to get some shots of everyone that wants to join in on sunday, at the bbq. And hopefully we can get something put together.

[John Wise]

I realize I am from lincoln,  but wouldn't mind being a part of this.  It all depends on time requirements and dates etc.

Would you be up for a lincoln maker in your group?

John

[David Knaack]

I suppose that whatever it is should have wings?

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Brandon Norris <blno...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Brandon Norris]

Hey John, Im certainly not opposed. Im assuming most of the build will be done on sunday, so if you can make it up here to help out thats great.

If anyone has a couple 4"-ish throw linear servos, we could build a set of these.

http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-build-pneumatic-costume-wings/?ALLSTEPS 

[Dan Linder]

On Wed, Jun 27, 2012 at 12:59 PM, Brandon Norris <blno...@gmail.com> wrote:

If anyone has a couple 4"-ish throw linear servos, we could build a set of these.

http://www.instructables.com/id/How-to-build-pneumatic-costume-wings/?ALLSTEPS 

I won't be able to help in body, but maybe mind and spirit. :)

Looking for alternative "wings" ideas combined with Red Bull...

 * Wings (the band from the 70's) 

 * Wings (the food)

 ** Can an Arduino "wing cooking timer" be created?

 ** How about an Arduino "hot wings" spice sensor?

 * Wings (flying)

 ** How about a quad-copter or some other flying machine?

 ** Combine it with tilt/accel sensors and a USB or BlueTooth interface and use it to fly a flight simulator.

Just some brainstorming ideas...

Dan

 

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[David Knaack]

heh, RedBullduino gives you (hot) wings. That's awesome.

[Brandon Norris]

Ok, so the bullduino just showed up at my door a few minutes ago.

I plugged it in and its blinking away.

I doesnt seem to be sending anything out the serial port. Ill keep poking at it and let you guys know if i find anything.

Ill bring it down to the makery thursday if anyone wants to come down and mess with it.

if anyone wants to see some pics of it this guy took a bunch and shared them.

https://plus.google.com/photos/115017817208112204973/albums/5757236654665771553 

[John Wise]

I might of missed something.  Are we talking this sunday?  I might be able to make some of it if so.  What are the relevant stats like location and time?

john.

Oh, and if need be you can talk to travis about our possibility of scrap for use in the project.  Here at lincoln we have a warehouse full of stuff most of which I can get for a reasonable price or if I ask very nicely... free.

Travis can explain.... maybe.....

Oh and travis....  no we don't have any satellite dishes, but do you think those parking lot light shades could be put to use?

[Travis Smith]

John et al,

I had thought about using them, yeah.  We could cut them up and make an array eventually. :)  I'm still working on getting the software defined radio bit to work, though, so that's a ways off.

Lincoln Makerspace is a wonderland of stuff, people.  John:  does this mean you're coming to visit Sunday?

Wing idea:  Duocopter w ultrasonic sensors top and bottom, and wings hanging off either side for decoration.  Mount it to a string, and when the sensor reads that its nearing the ceiling, the arduino has the props slow.  When the bottom sensor reads that its nearing the floor, the props speed up.  Visual effect would be a repeating rising and falling with flapping of the wings from the air.   We could maybe steal code from all those arduino quad projects out there...and we'd need two motors/2 escs.  The rest could be printed or made from paper, etc.

Travis

[Travis Smith]

We could also steal code from the tacit that I made last year, and I have the sensors.

Travis

[Eric J. Kaplan]

I have a piece of white Sintra that I will bring with me on Sunday, along with the PVC glue and the acrylic solvent (and applicator), so if the project needs any sort of plastic work, I'll have us covered. 

Sent from my iPad

[John Wise]

what time and place on sunday.  I can come at least until 3pm.  will that work.

[Brandon Norris]

It going to the at The Makery, 4388 Nicholas Street

http://omahamakergroup.org/directions-to-the-space/

I will be there probably at 11am till late at night.

This sunday is actually our OMGWTFBBQ2, and Kevin and Erics construction contest thing as well.

Hopefully we can have enough people/time to get something put together for this as well.

[Kevin Fusselman]

Yep, he's right.  The idea is to grill around (or shortly after) noon.

[John Wise]

Sorry if this is not the right forum for this question, but is there anything I should bring to the bbq.  And it is at the makery correct?

Should we bring a supply of redbull?  Maybe vodka as well?  Not sure on the lay of the land way up north.

[Travis Smith]

Yep, bring typical grill ingredients. I'll have rum or beer on me. 

-Travis

[Travis Smith]

Code if we go for a flying device.  I wonder how well this would work if we didn't incorporate the nunchuk.

http://code.google.com/p/multiwii/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wii_MotionPlus

 

Maaaaybe this could be a day long project, but I dunno.

Travis

[John Wise]

I will donate a nunchuck  if needed.  They are not too expensive.  if memory serves.

On Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 1:53 PM, Travis Smith <trav...@gmail.com> wrote:

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[Brandon Norris]

Cool, thanks.

I made a spreadsheet with the ideas so far, So everyone can put down which one they want to do, and who would donate what for it.

[Travis Smith]

Where?

Travis

[John Wise]

ditto

[Brandon Norris]

Whoops, the link didnt paste apparently.

hehe ya go.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AnBS70_DWB3-dFdnSE9senJsNGRkU21Tam9UazlYY1E#gid=0 

[Travis Smith]

Is buying a nunchuk and doing the wiicoptor realistic? 

-Travis

[John Wise]

I am bringing up two of those parking lot lamp shades just in case some one has an idea on what to do with them.

They are hard to explain and I don't have them handy to take pic of them.   Imagine the Death Star.  Now make it white, and hollow.  Cut off the bottom about an eighth into the sphere and make the big laser part a hole.

They are made of fiberglass and about a meter at least in diameter.

hope that explains it a little.

[Brandon Norris]

I was playing around with it yesterday and managed to get it talking to a wired nunchuck, but the wireless one that I have wont work with it.

I also got it taking data from one of the MindFlex headband units and displaying the results onscreen.

I have 2 of the headbands if we want to do something with it.

These are just kind of  pieces that could be useful for a bigger project. 

If we were going to make a copter out of this, we would need one of the Wii Motion Plus add ons.

I think its probably doable, but may take longer than we have to make it fiunctional.

Remember, its due NEXT TUESDAY, the 3rd. And we have to have a 2min video showing it off my then.

[David Knaack]

A head-to-head competition game might be good. Kinda works with the head-to-head bulls styling of the board.

The headbands could be modified to have horns, and we could remake a mindflex type game, maybe with some sort of 'wings' twist to make it not just a simple remake.

[Travis Smith]

Reverse tug o war? Make an LED strip above the bulls. Green inside, to yellow, to red outside. Player 1 has his horns on, player 2 the same, both EEG devices. Countdown. Push with your mind. The winner has the more consistent push over 10 seconds or if there is a consistent gap for 5 seconds. The led reflects who is pushing more at the moment. At the end of 10, LEDs and music indicate a winner. 

-Travis

[Dan Linder]

I like it - very "Jedi bar game" like. :)

Dan

[David Knaack]

How about a pingpong ball on a wire with motors to move it across a playing field, with two RGB leds inside facing the player positions. Color of the LED indicates player EEG reading, difference of the average value over a time slice determines movement for that slice, position of the ball indicates total score.

[Kevin Fusselman]

If only it could involve spoon bending...

[David Knaack]

Or the ball could be on what appears to be a pendulum, which is actually motor driven by a hidden motor, so the effort represents telekinetic effort.

[Travis Smith]

Another tangent: make literal cartoon wings like some of you saw at Makerfaire, strapped to the back, raised w a series of cables and pulleys. Action is controlled on a sliding scale by mindflex input. 

-Travis

[Travis Smith]

This is fun. :)

-Travis

On Jun 29, 2012, at 14:08, David Knaack <david...@gmail.com> wrote:

[David Knaack]

That would work too. A mock-spoon with a bendy neck and a couple of wires to control how far it is bent.

[Eric Kaplan]

This has GREAT potential for the video:

     - "star" drinks a can of Red Bull

     - he/she starts "thinking" real hard with the mindflex on

     - the wings begin to appear from behind him

Finish with a closing screen that has the OMG logo and the "Red Bull Gives You Wings" tagline.

http://mybrandman.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/red-bull-gives-you-wings2.jpg

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[David Knaack]

Someone with talent for video and graphics could probably do something really cool with that.

[Travis Smith]

I was thinking we should probably find such a person.  This entry does depend on a good video.

Travis

[David Knaack]

We would have to do the finding at a very rapid pace, shooting and editing such a piece would take at least a day, and building it and making it presentation ready, whatever it is, would take two. That leaves about enough time to upload it.

[Brandon Norris]

Well, then the obvious question is, Is there anyone on here that is good at this sort of thing? And would be willing to film/edit this thing? 

Also, does anyone have a nice/decent video camera, or a dslr that shoots video well? All I have is a little point and shoot.

[Eric Kaplan]

I can help with the graphics, but I have no experience with editing video (and no decent camera other than video on my iPhone or point-n-shoot).

[Kevin Fusselman]

If we need "Just Something", I've got my S5 (not HD, but image stabilized and generally superior to my "HD" camera phone), and limited video editing capabilities (read Windows Live Movie Maker)... I can't say it's ideal, especially if we need high quality audio (internal mics only), but it's better than nothing...

[Dan Linder]

Audio is best recorded seperatly and over dubbed in post production.

Dan

[Kevin Fusselman]

And now we've exceeded my technical knowhow, unless we're going for the "bad kungfu movie" theme...

[Travis Smith]

We'd record some sort of action without dialogue, then have narration dubbed over. 

-Travis

[patrick]

Yeah Hello hows it going. I wonder if any one realizes I have a degree in photography and have made several short films....

On Friday, June 15, 2012 11:26:36 AM UTC-5, Brandon Norris wrote:

Does anyone want to enter this with me? It seems like we could make something really cool for it.

http://creation.redbullusa.com/

-Bradnon

[John Wise]

Very nice to meet you, your timing is impeccable.

[Ben Hutcheson]

I feel like people aren't forgetting or not realizing, so much as being polite and not volunteering you for anything.  Now that you've joined the discussion, of course. . . hope you've got some free time coming up!

[Travis Smith]

Yay!  Snagged Patrick. :)

As for tomorrow's event, I'm guessing it should probably go down something like so:

1. Gather participants, vote on which project to do.
2. Separate into coders and physical design groups.
3. Coders either go grab applicable code from the interwebs and plug it into a script or do it from scratch.
4. Physical design goes to the store and gets parts, or if my some miracle we have everything, gets started.
5. Stick em together, see what we get.
6. Troubleshoot.
7. Win.

Travis

[patrick]

I was the seventh one to post... I have been part of the discussion..

[patrick]

If we don't win it will still be fun!

[Kevin Fusselman]

Well, this project is in the "final video submission creation" phase, having been tested and filmed his evening.  A big congrats to everyone involved for pulling a great project together so quickly.

For those of you who haven't seen this thing, it's a mind-controlled water cannon, that soaks the person with less brainpower (or something).  It's (no pun intended) quite a blast, and will certainly be available to see at next Tuesday's meeting.

Again, thanks to everyone who made this happen.

[patrick]

Video is DONE! we think it has been uploaded but there is no confirmation message that it got there so.. What ever we made something cool we can show off at meetings events, etc. I'll post the video to the blog some time this week.

[Kevin Fusselman]

Did we make the midnight (Pacific) deadline?

[Ben Hutcheson]

You (or someone with access to the OMG Twitter) may want to tweet @Joe_Murphy that your video got left off the list.  Someone else did that a while ago and it appears it worked, as their video is now listed with the rest of the contestants at  http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6F51D301732C80E4 

[Ben Hutcheson]

Or just something tagged with #rbcreation.  Not sure what the best approach would actually be...

[Kevin Fusselman]

If someone knows where this was uploaded (like a youtube URL or the name associated with the submission) I can do the tweeting...

[Brandon Norris]

It was uploaded to the Redbull contest site.

I think we have to upload it to youtube separately if we want to. 

I think the playlist that was listed is just one of the contestants trying to find all the ones on youtube so far.

Does OMG have a youtube account? or are we just tagging stuff?

[Kevin Fusselman]

There's no OMG Youtube account that I'm aware of... I typically tag OMG and OmahaMakerGroup.

Re Submission: are they looking for one in your name or "Omaha Maker Group"?

[Brandon Norris]

Red Bull isnt looking at youtube at all... They have their own submission page for uploading the videos to them.

I dont know what joe murphys criteria is, but our video isnt on youtube yet

[Travis Smith]

I can confirm:  we don't have an OMG youtube account.  Did the twitter thing get sorted yet?

Travis

[Travis Smith]

Man, there are some cool entries out there!  The "Better Fish Trap" and roller coaster simulator were my favorites among the competition so far.

[John Wise]

I really want to show people this, where can I get access to video?

[Travis Smith]

http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL6F51D301732C80E4

-Travis

[Brandon Norris]

Here is our final cut.

http://goo.gl/SRvQf

[Travis Smith]

Very nicely done all around!

[James Harr]

That video came out real nice.

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[Kevin Fusselman]

Very nice indeed.

Also, it looks like the video has been added to the playlist.

[Travis Smith]

Twice.  :)

Travis