Re: Formation of the Divine Mercy Vado..?

[Ronald Dsouza]

Dear Vado members & Advisory Board,

I consider the formation of new vados illegal. I request the Advisory Board to consider and make this formation of new vado illegal. 

Back in November, when the Executive board had initiated vado breakup without anyone's consent and that too without the knowledge of vado Gurkar, I had sent email to Advisory board to put an end to this mess (Please refer to my attachments).  

The formation of new vados was stopped, back then, I would request you to again convene and put an end to these formation of new vados.

I received an email during Christmas, saying new vados are formed.

Why is the Executive Board and such people, playing games and doing such HUMBUG?

Once their Christmas function is over they started playing games once again in the vado.

They have separated families within vado? All for what? What is the reason,

the Board is creating such division?

At this rate anyone who has disagreement even when that person, they have disagreement, is right, will separate and form vados.?

Why breakup and create new vados, someone else will say WHY NOT BREAK UP MCA-EC Association? Is this what Executive board wants and is taking this association in that direction.

 

Where is the Mangalorean moryad?  This is not called MAGIC this is becoming TRAGIC on a daily basis?

It is Christmas season and everyone is supposed to come together and join hands and stand united as one , and what do I get to read from such folks? Instead of Christmas wishes I get to read that they are pushing divisions within the vados and association.

Sorry to say as many have already said, you Executive Board have failed miserably. Not only that you have supported boycotting of events in vado as well.

Ronald.

Gurkar Moriye vado.

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Subject: Re: Formation of the Divine Mercy Vado

Merlin, chris, vincy and all

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Merry Christmas tp one and all.

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From: christopher monis

Date: Thu, Dec 24, 2015 21:34

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Subject:RE: Formation of the Divine Mercy Vado

Hello Ron,
 
I am pleased to inform you of the formation of our new vado within MCA-EC, the Divine Mercy Vado. In accordance the correspondence with the executive board below, we seven families have received the approval to function as our independent own vado in the area.
 
As the newly elected Gurkar of this vado, I am asking that the families of Divine Mercy Vado, listed below with their consent, be removed from the Moriye Vado, as well as its mailing list:
Kevin and Friya D'Costa (+1)
Ivan and Anita D'Souza (+2)
Roy and Vaibhavi Macwan (+2)
Melvin and Premilla Mendonca (+2)
Christopher and Violet Monis (+2)
Wesly and Lorna Tauro (+1)
Harry and Anita Pinto (+2)
 
I would appreciate your cooperation in this matter and would also like a confirmation of our removal in a timely manner.
 
Wishing you and your family a very merry Christmas and the compliments of the season ahead.
 
Thanks,
Chris Monis
 

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Date: Thu, 24 Dec 2015 15:17:34 -0500
Subject: Re: Formation of the Divine Mercy Vado
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Chris,

Thank you for your leadership to bring families together through the Divine Mercy Vado.

The Executive Board has unanimously approved the Divine Mercy Vado as it conforms to the approved by-laws.

Congratulations to you and to the vado members. MerryChristmas and Happy New Year.

As an immediate next step, if any of the Vado members are part of the existing Vado, please request the exisiting Vado gurkar to delete these names from an existing Vado.  You can do so by sending a single email directly the existintg gurkar with a copy to all the members of the new vado and Executive Board. Please do this within a week from today and copy in...@mca-ec.com in your email to the existing Gurkar.

The Executive Board.

MCA-EC.

On Wed, Dec 23, 2015 at 9:55 PM, christopher monis <chris...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Dear Executive and Advisory Boards,

As a concerned current member of Moriye Vado, I feel that it is in the best interest of my fellow members to form a new vado in our area. In light of MCA-EC's new MAGIC plan, one tenet of which is to strengthen locally, I found that this was the best option to meet our needs.

As such, I would like to inform you that we're forming the Divine Mercy Vado in our area, consisting of the following several current member families of Moriye Vado, CC'd in this email, who have expressed their interest in joining and have consented to this:
Kevin and Friya D'Costa (+1)
Ivan and Anita D'Souza (+2)
Roy and Vaibhavi Macwan (+2)
Melvin and Premilla Mendonca (+2)
Christopher and Violet Monis (+2)
Wesly and Lorna Tauro (+1)
Harry and Anita Pinto (+2)

Furthermore, I have been elected Gurkar of this new vado by its members in a recent conversation, and am happy to assume this position until the upcoming election.

Thank you very much for your understanding and kind cooperation. Wishing you all a merry Christmas and a prosperous new year!

Thanks,
Christopher Monis

[kevin_...@mckinsey.com]

Hi Ron,

First of all, I don't need to be receiving such emails as I consider this spam. Please remove me from the Moriye Vado group ASAP otherwise I will have no other option but to report it to google.

Secondly, if you think whatever has been done is illegal then as per rules, please bring it up to the chair of the advisory board by highlighting specific bylaws that were not complied with in forming the new vado. There is no need to spam/publicize to all the moriye vado members and other random folks in your emails.

Thanks

Kevin D'Costa 

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[NEWTON DUARTE]

Hi Ron,

I find your email offensive, rude and derogatory. 

Our family has been a part of the MCA-EC right from its inception. We have been part of the extended MCA-EC family and have seen it grow from strength to strength. Mark and the founding members, have had the foresight  to see and meet the need of bring our families together, and have pioneered this organization to be where it is today. They have nurtured and grown this organization, YES with their magic of love... You are a beneficiary of all their pioneering work...which makes the tone of your email completely out of line.

Sadly since you have not been invplved from the start, you fail to recognize and cannot appreciate the mission, the aspirations and the vision of our founding members.

For those of us who were there during the initial years, there was a complete sense of unity of purpose. As the organization grew, we wondered how we could still stay connected yet encourage young families to join. 

The formation of the vados was a brilliant idea which addressed a beautifully growing organization. This is  the only way families could still come together in smaller groups and yet grow organically.

As each vado grows, further sub-division is necessary in order to achieve the goal of keeping families closely knit together, yet welcoming others to join.

From your email, it appears that you have reservations about this approach. Even if you do this kind of language is unacceptable.

If you have a point of view please share it with the board directly and refrain from sending these mass emails. 

If you think that this request is unreasonable, please remove my email address from this group email, as I do not wish to receive such emails going forward.

Thanks,

Newton

[Naveen Sequeira]

My dear Brothers,

May I request you to stop replying to this email. This is only going to cause damage and no benefit. Do not forget that we are all one family as MCA-EC. Everyone who constitutes this family ( Member,Board Member, Founder, past board member, or Advisory Board Member) is very important and precious to us.

Advisory Board Members are copied on this email. Please wait for their reply.

Regards,

Naveen

[Premilla Mendonca]

Appreciate your email Naveen asking people to stop replying... kindly advice Ron not to initiate such mass emails and disturb all the families... issues can be directly taken to boards without coping Vado members and non vado people. This sort of mass emails are coming from one person for last few months. So the real solution is to fix the root-cause and we have not seen any efforts to fix this so far.

Kindly note that even our children are part of this google group and they are sick and tired of this sort of emails. We have requested Ron to remove our names/emails from Moriye vado list last week. Instead of doing so, he has all the time to draft and send this sort of emails.

Premilla.

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Sent: Tuesday, December 29, 2015 1:27 PM
To: NEWTON DUARTE
Cc: Ronald Dsouza; Moriye-Vado Mca-ec; Robert Vaz; Roshan D'Mello; kevin_d'co...@mckinsey.com; Mich Fernandes; marianr...@gmail.com; gla...@gmail.com; Gladson Cardoza; MCA-Steven Aranha; Arun Menezes; Mcae Executive Board
Subject: Re: Formation of the Divine Mercy Vado..?

 

[christopher monis]

Hello Ron,

Both as the Gurkar of the newly formed Divine Mercy Vado and as a concerned member of MCA-EC, I feel it prudent to publicly respond to these recent mass messages regarding the legitimacy of our Vado and its executive board approval, on behalf of myself and my fellow Vado members.

First and foremost, the right of Vado formation is explicitly held by the MCA-EC Executive Board, specifically by the Regional Coordinator, in accordance with Article 6.1.4.4 of the MCA-EC bylaws. In light of this, there should be no question of the legitimacy of this action. Furthermore, I see no reasonable conflict between this decision and the overarching purposes and objectives listed in Article 2, and accordingly see no case to be made in regards to board misconduct.

On the other hand, what I can see in your actions, both recent and past, is overwhelming evidence of Gurkar misconduct. According to Article 5.6.4.6 of the bylaws, it is an explicit responsibility of the Gurkar to "respect the organizational hierarchy and address the needs of members in his/her jurisdiction." In no way, shape, or form have your actions paid any respect to the power of the executive board, which supersedes you in this hierarchy. Your past inability to forward executive messages in a timely manner, which conflicts with Articles 5.6.4.4, 8.6.2, and 8.6.5, as well as your public defamation of executive members and their decisions are just two examples of many in regards to this misconduct. As such, we seven families, formerly of your Moriye Vado, saw none of our needs being met by our former Gurkar and decided to take action in the formation of this Vado.

In fact, our time in Moriye Vado was not only not beneficial to us, but actually harmful. We found ourselves involved in your dramatics, even when they did not concern us. When you sign a message as the Gurkar of Moriye Vado, the impression you leave reflects on your Vado members. However, many of your criticisms of the executive board did not reflect our beliefs, and instead caused struggle within our families and friends circles. Why should we be forced to continue membership in such a Vado that is actually destructive to us?

These past e-mails of yours have gone beyond violating the MCA-EC bylaws--they've violated the Terms of Service of Google Groups, which operates the Moriye Vado mailing list. In accordance with our request to be removed from the list, we should not have received any of this communication through the Moriye Vado group. However, we continue to be enrolled in this group and present on this list, which is a strict violation of your agreement with Google.

On an even more serious note, it can be argued that you've violated the CAN-SPAM Act of 2003, which enforces the presence of a way to unsubscribe from a commercial mailing list. Any messages you've sent through the Vado in the capacity of Gurkar that can be construed as commercial messages may be in violation of this act in a civil court of law.

However, when you're not acting in the capacity of a Gurkar representative of your Vado but rather as a member of MCA-EC, I understand that you do maintain the right to question the decisions of the Executive Board, as we all do. In such cases, it is your duty to, first and foremost, privately alert the Executive Board of your concern. Supposing that your needs are not met, you can escalate your appeal to the Advisory Council. Following that, you can address the MCA-EC members, who collectively stand foremost in the organizational hierarchy, of your issue. This stands in line with the hierarchy of most executive and judicial systems, including that of the United States of America. What you have done by simply sending a mass e-mail to various members of the organization, completely unrelated to the issue at hand, has not given the Executive Board any chance to possibly alleviate your concerns with justification for their actions.

In summation, I see no reason why we should not be able to remove ourselves from the Moriye Vado in favor of our Divine Mercy Vado. It is explicitly stated in the bylaws that the Executive Board holds this right, and they've exercised it in forming our Vado. If anyone's actions should be brought into question, it's yours, as evidenced by the multiple aforementioned bylaws, terms, and acts you have infringed on. With the permission of my Vado Members, I send this e-mail once again imploring you to remove us members of the Divine Mercy Vado from the Moriye Vado and its mailing list. As such, we can remain in accordance with Article 5.5.4 of the bylaws, which requires us to be members of only one Vado, as we form our new Divine Mercy Vado mailing list.

If you have any comments or questions in regards to this e-mail thread, please feel free to respond with a similar e-mail, including effectively clarified evidence for your concerns, as opposed to your recent baseless, libelous, mudslinging e-mails. For future messages, I wholeheartedly recommend you contact the Executive Board and Advisory Council directly before sending out such blanket e-mails.

Compliments of the season,
Christopher Monis
Gurkar, Divine Mercy Vado

P.S. I sincerely apologize to those members involved in this quite unnecessary public snafu, but Ron's recent remarks have compelled me to respond in such a manner.

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