Missing for ITS in okapi? Distiguish between lock and discard trans-unit for translation
Marc Mittag
sometimes there is the need to distinguish between text, that is not of
interest for the translator and should not be shown in the translation
tool and text, that should not be translated but is relevant for context
reasons.
As far as I can see, there is no possibility by the xml:its filter in
Okapi and also not by the xliff 1.2 spec to distinguish between those
and set some different attribute/value combination for the 2 cases, right?
Because as far as I can see, only the translate-attribute of the
trans-unit can be used for this and it has only the boolean values yes/no.
Am I right? If yes, then in my eyes this is an important gap in both:
the xliff 1.2 standard and okapi its filter.
best
Marc
yves.s...@gmail.com
I believe you are correct, there is no separate ways to indicate those two aspects.
Cheers,
-ys
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Marc Mittag
Hi Yves, hi everyone,
I thought, there must be a way, but I can not find one right now:
How would I achieve, that an external tag in an xml file is not excluded from the generated xliff file, but instead put in a trans-unit with translate="no"?
Is there a way?
Else we would like to implement one, probably with the Okapi
developer, we already work with.
For example for the following xml
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<root>
<notTranslate>This should not be
translated</notTranslate>
<translateThis>This is to be
translated</translateThis>
</root>
I would like to achieve the following xliff
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"?>
<xliff version="1.2"
xmlns="urn:oasis:names:tc:xliff:document:1.2"
xmlns:okp="okapi-framework:xliff-extensions"
xmlns:its="http://www.w3.org/2005/11/its"
xmlns:itsxlf="http://www.w3.org/ns/its-xliff/"
its:version="2.0">
<file original="original-627.xml" source-language="de-DE"
target-language="en-GB" datatype="xml">
<body>
<trans-unit id="2" translate="no">
<source xml:lang="en-GB">This should not be
translated</source>
<seg-source><mrk mid="0" mtype="seg">This should not
be translated</mrk></seg-source>
<target xml:lang="de-DE"><mrk mtype="seg"
mid="0"></mrk></target>
</trans-unit>
<trans-unit id="2">
<source xml:lang="en-GB">This is to be
translated</source>
<seg-source><mrk mid="1" mtype="seg">This is to be
translated</mrk></seg-source>
<target xml:lang="de-DE"><mrk mtype="seg"
mid="1"></mrk></target>
</trans-unit>
</body>
</file>
</xliff>
This ITS-markup for Okapi will not put the translate="no" into the xliff, but omit it completely:
<?xml version="1.0" encoding="UTF-8"
standalone="no"?><its:rules
xmlns:its="http://www.w3.org/2005/11/its"
xmlns:fct="http://www.fct.de/general"
xmlns:fm="http://www.fct.de/general"
xmlns:itsx="http://www.w3.org/2008/12/its-extensions"
xmlns:okp="okapi-framework:xmlfilter-options"
xmlns:xlink="http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink" version="1.0">
<its:translateRule selector="//notTranslate"
translate="no"/>
<its:translateRule selector="//root|//translateThis"
translate="yes"/>
</its:rules>
best
Marc