It's sad, IMHO.
..just my $0.02 worth; your mileage may vary.
> Have you seen the latest commercial in which Keating is apparently
> using the recent national disaster as a front to promote the
> Oklahomans for Right to Work cause?
It's going to backfire on him.
The "Music Man" must be playing a desperate tune. Boomer
For those who see this in time a talk show host on KRMG 740 Tulsa will ask Gov.
Keating about this matter after 4 pm today.
He's a fucking piece of shit alright.
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> For those who see this in time a talk show host on KRMG 740 Tulsa will ask
Gov.
> Keating about this matter after 4 pm today.
Did anyone catch what was said?
To paraphrase: blah blah blah, lie lie lie, propaganda, more lies, blah
blah blah, insert foot in mouth, repeat ad nauseum.
One can always hope.
Last night I got a pre-recorded phone call from Gov. Keating essentially
repeating the TV ad. I have the feeling more than ever that sq 695 will not
past. I get much of that feeling from my local paper, the Stillwater News
Press. There haven't been any letters to the editor published in favor of 695
in 2 weeks or so. Letters during that time on 695 have been running at 100%
against it. Despite the closeness in the polls I don't expect much interest in
getting out to vote except among those voting no, insuring victory for the no
side. Boomer
I saw a commercial on CNN (chan 43, Cox Cable OKC) that seemed similar to that
last night. It seemed Keating was merely encouraging people to get out and
vote, and he said how he intended to vote.
A 'get-out-the-vote' type ad is good, IMO, since apparently last week a bond
issue in Rush Springs passed, when it had failed several times before. Normal
turnout in Rush Springs elections is apparently around 700 people, last week
only approx. 300 people showed up.
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I got a "call" (read" recorded message) from him today on the same
thing. In fact, I thought it was going to be the exact same text as the
commercial, but it wasn't . It wasn't a "get out the vote" call. It was
actually a "Vote for 695" call. But the message said that the reason it
was so important was because due to "recent tragic events." The same
thing that the commercial intimated but didn't come right out and say.
Anyone else get a call from "Keating"? It didn't have the subtlety of
the commercial, did it?
Serene
> A 'get-out-the-vote' type ad is good, IMO, since apparently last week a bond
> issue in Rush Springs passed, when it had failed several times before. Normal
> turnout in Rush Springs elections is apparently around 700 people, last week
> only approx. 300 people showed up.
So bond issues are bad and manipulative advocacy ads disguised as "get
out the vote" public service announcements that we foot the bill for are
good? And a government official using a horrible national tragedy as an
excuse to espouse his views free of charge isn't beyond tacky and
thoughtless? That's not much better than the straight out con artists
trying to profit by using this attack to snooker money from old people.
Different means, same result intended.
Serene
>Have you seen the latest commercial in which Keating is apparently
>using the recent national disaster as a front to promote the
>Oklahomans for Right to Work cause?
>
>It's sad, IMHO.
Yeah, it is - but hardly unexpected from an asshole like Keating
that looks for whatever tragedy he can to turn human sympathy towards
his agenda. He's a real piece of work (shit?), and a total
embarassment to Oklahoma. I was already pissed at him for
grandstanding on the day of the attacks, but this commercial shows
what a callous and pathetic person he really is. Think what you want
about Right-to-Work, but I think anyone with any sense has to agree
that this move is like what Fat Albert used to say about school in
summer - "No class"...
On a similar note, anyone catch Sunday's Daily Disappointment, where
the article about "attacks may effect 695 vote" appeared ABOVE all the
articles about the attacks? It's obvious that Gaylord is worried as
well that Oklahomans may have something more important on their minds
than his and Keating's petty RTW campaign.
KRC
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>I got a "call" (read" recorded message) from him today on the same
>thing. In fact, I thought it was going to be the exact same text as the
>commercial, but it wasn't . It wasn't a "get out the vote" call. It was
>actually a "Vote for 695" call. But the message said that the reason it
>was so important was because due to "recent tragic events." The same
>thing that the commercial intimated but didn't come right out and say.
>Anyone else get a call from "Keating"? It didn't have the subtlety of
>the commercial, did it?
Yeah, I got one, too - on my answering machine. I was so digusted
that I erased it. In retrospect, I should have saved it, converted it
to .mp3 and put in on a website so people could hear what a lousy
piece of shit our Governor is. Actually, "piece of shit" may be too
nice of a term - what I clean out of the cat box is probably worthy of
more respect right now than BumbleFrank(tm)...
KRC
The RTW campaign makes a lot of weird references - the pro-695 site
http://www.okrighttowork.com (sponsored by Wal-Mart, among others) has a
prominent front page article about two anti-RTW'ers who want to let
homosexuals into the Boy Scouts. So I guess they're intimating that unless
you vote for 695, the Boy Scouts is going to be overflowing with fairies and
you'll be tacitly supporting Bin Laden.
http://www.protectokfamilies.com is an anti-695 site, with a lot of good
economic comparisions between the wages and economies of RTW and free
states. The pro-695 doesn't talk about how RTW affects other states (except
1 of the 21 RTW states - Idaho!), it talks more about gays in the Boy
Scouts, and about Oklahoma's economic growth (I'm sure Wal-Mart is deeply
concerned about that issue), though it just bemoans the state of Oklahoma's
economy and doesn't talk about how the 21 RTW states have worse economies
than free states (with the exception of Idaho, of course).
I got a letter from the OK Christian Coalition that didn't want to get into
the economic arguments about sq 695. Instead, the letter wanted to persuade me
to vote yes because big labor supports candidates that vote contrary to the
Christian Coalition agenda, mentioning something similar to the above. I
thought it was pretty silly since the candidate the Christian Coalition
supported, President George Bush, has appointed at least 2 open homosexuals to
federal positions. At least one of them has been openly critical to the
Salvation Army policy against homosexuals and supports gays in the military.
And the person Bush appointed to ambassador to Canada supports much of the gay
agenda.
The unionssimply have to support candidates who see things in the work place
their way. While the chamber of commerce people and other anti-union people
and corporations throw million$ of dollars to the Republican Party and
Republican candidates, unions can't sit back and withhold support for the
Democrats, who show signs of supporting them. Boomer
That ad has been pulled according to Frosty Troy's Friday Commentary. TV
stations were getting complaints. Hopefully, Keating got more no than yes votes
out of that tasteless TV ad while it lasted.
> That ad has been pulled according to Frosty Troy's Friday Commentary. TV
>stations were getting complaints. Hopefully, Keating got more no than yes votes
>out of that tasteless TV ad while it lasted.
It's still running on Tulsa TV stations.
> > That ad has been pulled according to Frosty Troy's Friday Commentary.
TV
> >stations were getting complaints. Hopefully, Keating got more no than yes
votes
> >out of that tasteless TV ad while it lasted.
>
> It's still running on Tulsa TV stations.
Actually the Vote No group actually came out with a very similar, and even
more obnoxious television promo than Keating's Vote Yes one. It featured an
American flag waving in the background and talked about how freedom was at
stake, blah blah blah. I really think the politicians have lost their
collective minds.
> stake, blah blah blah. I really think the politicians have lost their
> collective minds.
Hmph.
That's only if you are willing to allow that any of them ever had one.