Interesting project

[Tom Nichols]

Ojay looks like a really interesting project. I happened to discover
it by looking at a project that uses YUI (which I always thought,
'that library looks great but the APIs are horribly verbose).
Anyway,

(1) why doesn't someone moderate the discussion list so there aren't
more spam messages than real posts? Doesn't that make the discussion
list useless?

(2) How big is the community around Ojay? I'd think anyone using YUI
would die without Ojay from typing YAHOO.... so many times, but maybe
that's just me. I'm definitely going to blog about this project since
it makes YUI a _really_ useful javascript platform.

(3) Will Ojay continue with YUI3? YUI3 looks a little better, but
still somewhat verbose and seems to still be missing some of the
conveniences that JQuery/ Prototype has (that Ojay seems to have
added). Any plans to continue Ojay with YUI3 or does it become moot?

Thanks.
-Tom

[James Coglan]

> Ojay looks like a really interesting project.  I happened to discover
> it by looking at a project that uses YUI (which I always thought,
> 'that library looks great but the APIs are horribly verbose).
> Anyway,
>
> (1) why doesn't someone moderate the discussion list so there aren't
> more spam messages than real posts?  Doesn't that make the discussion
> list useless?

This has been a general problem with Google Groups lately -- I've just
rounded up all the spam so should be clearer now.

> (2) How big is the community around Ojay?  I'd think anyone using YUI
> would die without Ojay from typing YAHOO.... so many times, but maybe
> that's just me.  I'm definitely going to blog about this project since
> it makes YUI a _really_ useful javascript platform.

As you can probably see from the mailing list, there's not much of a
community around Ojay right now. That being said, we have some large
clients using the library -- see http://othermedia.com to see who we
work with. We do know of a few other companies using it in production,
but sadly they don't often post back to let us know about it!

> (3) Will Ojay continue with YUI3?  YUI3 looks a little better, but
> still somewhat verbose and seems to still be missing some of the
> conveniences that JQuery/ Prototype has (that Ojay seems to have
> added).  Any plans to continue Ojay with YUI3 or does it become moot?

YUI3 is best regarded as a completely new project rather than an
extension of YUI2, since its architecture is fundamentally different.
One idea I have is to move the YAHOO-calling code from the Ojay core
into an adapter layer that could be swapped out to talk to other
libraries and browser APIs, but we've not begun work on that to see if
it's feasible yet.

YUI2 is still being maintained though, so Ojay is likely to be useful
as-is for some time to come.

By the way, if you do start using Ojay we'd love to see what you build
with it!

James