5 Reasons Why the Web Platform War is Over: PHP Won with 75% says Google

[Michael Beck]

Interesting article:

 

http://www.phpclasses.org/blog/post/208-5-Reasons-Why-the-Web-Platform-War-is-Over-PHP-Won-with-75-says-Google.html

 

What is your view?

 

Michael

[Gary Watson]

My view is that there is room enough for all the players.  The fact that all the platforms and languages take pages from the other person's book is enough for me to think it is worth having a rich landscape of competitors.

ruby developed frameworks that people liked, now the php framework landscape is every bit as rich.  PHP had a great deployment model, the ruby community developed mod_rails (aka passenger), to achieve a similarly easy deployment model.

And the theft (innovation) continues.  All are made better by people having good ideas, and then other people copying those good ideas.

Not so much a war as a melting pot of ideas and different ways of looking at things.

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[Dan Rye]

I think he says it best at the end of that article:

Languages Are Tools Not Religions

No matter what is your language of preference, keep in mind that a language is just a tool for a purpose. It is just a means to the end.

In some cases it really does not matter what language you used to develop an application. That is the case for instance of Web applications. The code is run on the server side. So for the end user it does not matter if it is PHP or something else.

In my opinion it does not make sense to treat languages like religions. You can use different languages for different projects. You can even mix multiple languages in the same project.

So for developers I always recommend that you learn more than one language if you have the time. That will make you more prepared to participate in different types of projects.

Dan

[Michael Beck]

Yes, talking about winning wars is definitely an overstatement. Coexistence is always nicer :)

 

But the Google announcement is definitely a nice shot of credibility for PHP, and a good argument to use for skeptical clients who are not sure about using PHP  :) 

 

Michael

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[Luke Wertz]

Meh. I don't really think this lends any credibility to PHP. I'm not going to sit down with a client who is questioning PHP and say "Well Google supports it in this one development environment thing that it does!" and expect them to take that as a serious endorsement of the language. Actually, come to think of it, I'm not going to deal with a client who either micromanaging to that degree or so inept as to take this as a sign that it's a solid platform. PHP stands on its own merits (75% of the web uses it, apparently :P) without needing this shot in the arm.

Don't get me wrong: I think it's great for the PHP community to have another deployment environment to play with (especially with the scalability of App Engine), but I don't think this is even remotely close to being a game changer. Perhaps, in the long run, once App Engine is more accommodating to the PHP development cycle (ie: not precompiled), but I don't really see that happening any time soon.