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Nancie Fazzari

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Aug 2, 2024, 8:48:47 PM8/2/24
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I've been looking into the Korg Z1, Juno 60 and others, but decided I will go with either the JD990 (400 and a few euros from a guy in Romania), or Omnisphere. I can't decide. Help me, it's easy...6 mgb ROM vs 40 Gb........NO?

It depends if you want an almost completely useless synth with barely any sounds in it at all (JD) and a pain in the ass to use to boot, or something that actually has some sounds in it and is supposedly easy to use.

Not without obtaining a license transfer from Spectrasonics. The sounds and software are licensed and registered ONLY to you. You cannot automatically transfer the license to someone else, and therefore you cannot simply sell it used. If you do attempt to sell it used without obtaining a license transfer, the buyer will not be able to use the product because it is registered and licensed to you. The Atmosphere license is the right given to a single person to use the instrument. When you purchase the product, you are primarily purchasing the lifetime right to use the product and the sounds it contains in your own music projects. Also, if you sell any of your computers that have a Spectrasonics instruments installed on them, you are required to delete them first from the hard drive.

The vast majority of sample libraries and sample-based virtual instruments on the market do not allow license transfers of any kind. However, at Spectrasonics we realize that there are certain circumstances where it can be a legitimate transaction. Because circumstances can vary so much, we only grant up to one license transfer on a case-by-case basis to the original owner. Any license transferred versions of this software do not have all the same upgrade privileges as standard new units purchased at an authorized Spectrasonics dealer. Depending on the circumstances, when a license transfer is granted, there is often an additional fee involved that covers the transfer all the rights to the new user to use the core library sounds, to receive full tech support and continuing support update rights, issuing a new serial number and account, etc. If you have more questions about obtaining license transfers, how much it costs and what the limitations are of license transferred versions, please contact us directly at in...@spectrasonics.net

I'd get the 990 because A) it will always be compatible with your other gear, no fears of problems from OS updates, busted PC's, etc, etc, and B) 'cause I have one, and you need to validate my purchase.

are you looking for a collectors item or are you looking for the instrument with the most and highest quality sounds and synth abilities? if former JD 990 if latter Omnisphere [from what I have heard so far]

Because, saying it's used on the MAJORITY of that product is also BS. His gear list used on that product was very extensive, to the point that it's sort of pointless talking about what gear he used, because there's so much of it (and the list also includes VST's too.. ) . Incidently, his favourite synth is a Yamaha synth, not a Roland

Either way, comparing Atmosphere to Omnisphere is not really a great comparison. The USB (the French coders who did Atmosphere) engine is extremely limited by comparison. Omnisphere actually licenses USB's filters though, in order to include those sounds and have them sound the same. It also licenses several other FX and filters, as well as their own engine.

The JD800/990 was a nice synth at the time. But I'm also confident that Omnisphere will beat the sonic crap out of it - As well it should, given the size of the library and the speed of digital processing available now.

Atmosphere synth patches -> patches in atmosphere that feature synths only. And if you own a JX, JD, JP, it's trivial to recognize their sound. Some of the JX sounds in Atmosphere are literally 1:1 as originals, others layered, etc.

I'd even be doubtful that it's anywhere close to a "majority" of synth patches. He tries to cover some of the Roland sonic territory, just as he does with other synths. The difference with the Roland stuff is that, in many cases, he licensed the original sounds to Roland, and so he has the rights to directly copy things, without the need to disguise the fact, which he can't do with other synths.

Either way, the comparison is not a good one (although comparing a 990 to something like Omnisphere is rather silly to begin with). Atmosphere is a basic sample playback engine. It's clear Omnisphere is a "proper" synth, as well as a playback engine, with a larger and more varied source of samples to draw from too.

Topic title is more than silly. One is a synth with its applications, the other is a large sample bank with totally different synthesis methods (FM, Granular, Waveshaping...). Can JD sound like Omnisphere? No. But neither can Omnisphere sound like JD. It doesn't have its ROM waveforms, filters (judging by demos) and effect algorithms. Apples and Oranges.

If it were the JD-800, with its easy to program sliders, then it would be up to you whether you want something lush and easy to program, or something with nice samples and presets with a bit of wonk to program. My first impression of Omnisphere is that its really dialed in for presets; unlike many VSTs, some of the more advanced features are buried in menus and mouse clicks, making it somewhat more difficult to tweak.

Great analog retro feel to a lot of the patches
Effective use of imported sound samples
Excellent use of the Mod Wheel and LFOs to modulate the sounds
The Synth Bass and Synth Mono patches are exceptional
Multis create a beautiful, lush atmosphere of sound

Arcturus for Omnisphere contains 72 Sound Sources, 177 presets and 27 Multis. The library downloads as about 1 GB and requires Omnisphere 2.7.0f (or greater). There are also an additional 15 Unify patches requiring Unify 1.5.3 or greater. Lastly, with the purchase of Arcturus a free copy of the Arcturus Ambience Construction Kit is available at the time of purchase. A coupon code will be provided to get the 19 USD discount at checkout.

Thank you Carlos ? I cant compare, I`m probably the only person on the planet who doesn't have Kontakt. Omnisphere is powerful as synth , but I suspect Kontakt is much better for samples, in terms of articulations and velocity layers. Although you can use a multi in Omnisphere, but still limited for what you can do with samples.

I have often requested more sampler features for Omnisphere, but I think Spectrasonics see it as more of as a synth rather than a sampler, which is fair enough, but quite ironic since most of their patches rely on samples anyway. It could be so much more powerful and a one stop shop if they added more sampling features IMO.

Also, you might want to consider a Kontakt version for the wider audience it would bring. Even if you're using Omnisphere-specific features that Kontakt can't duplicate exactly, that might just mean a slightly dumbed-down version with modulations baked in.

Spectrasonics does indeed see Omnisphere as a synth, which makes sense given the company's origins. But most users see it as a ROMpler. Most Kontakt users have at least dabbled in making their own libraries for it, as evidenced by the plethora of free/cheap libraries out there. Non-commercial user-made Omnisphere libs don't seem like much of a thing beyond the efforts of a few brave souls such as yourself (thank you!). It certainly wouldn't be my first choice.

Thank you bitflipper, hope you enjoy it. I know omnisphere like the back of my hand, so its easy for me. There`s a few tricks you can use to make samples more realistic, such as using velocity to trigger the sample start time and or adding lets say 4 or 5 sounds like different piano velocities into one .wav file, but leaving a gap between each sound then trigger the sample start time with velocity, its a bit tricky but can be done.

It escapes me why an individual who wished to share their sampled instrument(s) just for the enjoyment of it would choose the Kontakt format. The Kontaktians would no doubt say it's because of the multitudes of people who own Kontakt and are therefore able to use them.

There are plenty of people such as me who don't have it, don't really want it, don't really need it, and thanks to the locked-down proprietary format, also can't check out any freeware Kontakt instruments.

Also, I find it slightly amusing that Session Horns Pro is a $150 Kontakt library (something like 30-40GB) that plays in the free Kontakt Player, but somehow someone's freeware "Yet Another Collection of '808 Samples" Kontakt instrument requires the full-blown version.

I don't know what Kontakt has going for it that SampleTank (the most recent issue) and other such products don't, except maybe the ability to create those elaborate UI's? I don't know if SampleTank and sforzando can do that.

In the case of Sampletank 4, I'd say a legible UI. The contrast is dreadful IMO and I wouldn't buy it because of that alone. That and the fact that IKM seem to have taken the stance that it's your problem not theirs that you have trouble with it.

They did so on one year - the very next day after I decided to use a $22 e-voucher to get that much off the full price (because the first buy is never discounted, right...). Not complaining (too much) though, it's a great sampler for my usages. YMMV.

That's because you need an (expensive) license to make a Kontakt Player instrument. For someone making something and giving it away for free, it doesn't make much sense to buy a license. Files for full Kontakt don't need a license, but can only be opened in full Kontakt.

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