Diabetes & ODSP

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Randy Scott

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Aug 26, 2007, 10:57:29 PM8/26/07
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Is anyone familiar with what ODSP covers with respect to diabetics? Some of those costs can break a person.

 Thanks!
Randy

ELLEN MASUDA

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Aug 27, 2007, 6:19:51 AM8/27/07
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Randy:

Because I am a non-insulin dependent diabetic, I receive $11.77 monthly which is to cover alcohol wipes and lancets.  My medications and test strips are free because they are on prescription covered by Ontario Drug Benefits.  If you need insulin and needles, they are covered as well if they are prescribed by a physician.

Hope this helps.

Ellen

jbkeh

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Aug 27, 2007, 8:50:48 AM8/27/07
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Insulin and test strips are covered by your Ontario Drug Benefit.

Diet assistance ($42 plus whatever other conditions you have that are
considered) is covered by Special Diet (must apply - obtain form from
worker).

Needles and syringes, alcohol swabs, platforms, lancets and blood
glucose monitors are covered by Mandatory Special Necessities (must
apply - obtain form from worker) but you may be required to apply to
Canadian Diabetes Association for assistance first for some items.

See Directives 6.4 and 9.12:

http://www.mcss.gov.on.ca/mcss/english/pillars/social/odsp-is-directives/ODSP_incomesupport.htm

Annie

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Aug 27, 2007, 11:09:02 AM8/27/07
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Plus you will get $42 on a 'special diet' to help you eat right...
Annie

ELLEN MASUDA wrote:
> Randy:
>
> Because I am a non-insulin dependent diabetic, I receive $11.77
> monthly which is to cover alcohol wipes and lancets. My medications
> and test strips are free because they are on prescription covered by
> Ontario Drug Benefits. If you need insulin and needles, they are
> covered as well if they are prescribed by a physician.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Ellen
>

> On 8/26/07, *Randy Scott* <randa...@gmail.com

> <mailto:randa...@gmail.com>> wrote:
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> Is anyone familiar with what ODSP covers with respect to
> diabetics? Some of those costs can break a person.
>
> Thanks!
> Randy
>
>
>
>
>
> >

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captain_ontario

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Aug 27, 2007, 12:23:53 PM8/27/07
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I have a news flash for you OSDP will not cover my lancettes or swabs.
They told me (OSDP) no longer covers them. They do cover my needles
but don't give me enough even for that. OSDP ONLY gives me $21.00 a
month for my needles. I asked for more money but refused and they told
me I wes getting enough wwhat a joke.

On Aug 27, 6:19 am, "ELLEN MASUDA" <masuda...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Randy:
>
> Because I am a non-insulin dependent diabetic, I receive $11.77 monthly
> which is to cover alcohol wipes and lancets. My medications and test strips
> are free because they are on prescription covered by Ontario Drug Benefits.
> If you need insulin and needles, they are covered as well if they are
> prescribed by a physician.
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Ellen
>

> On 8/26/07, Randy Scott <randasc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
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> > Is anyone familiar with what ODSP covers with respect to diabetics? Some
> > of those costs can break a person.
>
> > Thanks!

> > Randy- Hide quoted text -
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> - Show quoted text -

Malcolm53

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Aug 27, 2007, 4:11:25 PM8/27/07
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On this topic of ODSP providing Diabetic supplies:

I will be preparing a new page on my web site in the very near future
that will deal with the Mandatory Special Needs Benefit form in more
detail.

This is again a perfect example of how we are mislead by ODSP agents
that are either misinformed, poorly trained or just don't care. There
are specific steps to take for coverage and there are a few
exemptions. The main trick with ODSP is to show that no one else will
pay for the items. It is in their mandate to pay for most Insulin
dependent items reguardless what an uninformed worker tries to tell
their recipients.

We have been trying hard to get the message out that ODSP agents work
for the government and not for the recipient. They will and do do
everything possible to save the government money. If you ask for
assistance that you are entitled to properly ODSP MUST cough up the
funds. This is not to say that your ODSP agent (CSR - Client Service
Representative) will roll over on everything.

Please, please don't take everything to heart that you are told by
ODSP. They all too often leave out critical information. As an
example:
Maggie fell and broke her foot and she required a special cast to aid
in healing. As the cast was issued on a prescription for treatment of
a medical condition it fell under the main criteria of Surgical
Supplies.
ODSP denied coverage claiming that it was not a Surgical Supply and
quoted the regulation. What was not pointed out was that Surgical
Supplies required as the result of an accident were not covered.
We are fighting the decision on the grounds that the fall resulted
from a dizzy spell / loss of balance and was therefor based on a
medical condition.

It is like they try to only cover a white item when in reality they
must cover grey items also but try to make you think that what you are
requestins is a black item. And they wonder why recipients try to
manipulate the regulations, where do you think we learned how ;-)

I will send a note to the group when the page is online. In the mean
time there is some information on the MSN form in the Pages section of
the group web site.
http://groups.google.ca/group/odspfireside/web/msn-mandatory-special-necessities-benefits

Malcolm


Rosie

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Aug 27, 2007, 7:30:03 PM8/27/07
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It's right in Directive 9.12 that ODSP covers the cost of swabs and 35% of the cost of
lancets.(you're expected to get the other 65% from the Canadian Diabetes Association if you are
insulin dependent - presumably ODSP covers the whole cost if you are not on insulin). Quote the
Directive to your worker and they should give it to you. I've found that sometimes they don't know
but if you have the directive number, they are pretty good about following it.

Rosie

Deb Johnson

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Aug 27, 2007, 7:29:12 PM8/27/07
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Rosie,
good avice. We often forget that the workers aren't as familar with the
Directives as we are. With any request I quote the Dictive I'm referring to
a nd provide a brief explanation as to why I'm making my request. As a
result we've won every appeal and they treat us as being very knowledgeable.
One worker even told me that I should have a job there because I know the
Directives better than most of them. Heck I even do any calculations needed
and provide those too.
A further comment- when something costs more than they've provided I send in
a photocopy of the receipt and state the difference. We've always been
refunded the difference.
Deb

Deb Johnson

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Aug 27, 2007, 7:29:12 PM8/27/07
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Rosie,
good avice. We often forget that the workers aren't as familar with the
Directives as we are. With any request I quote the Dictive I'm referring to
a nd provide a brief explanation as to why I'm making my request. As a
result we've won every appeal and they treat us as being very knowledgeable.
One worker even told me that I should have a job there because I know the
Directives better than most of them. Heck I even do any calculations needed
and provide those too.
A further comment- when something costs more than they've provided I send in
a photocopy of the receipt and state the difference. We've always been
refunded the difference.
Deb
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Rosie

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Aug 30, 2007, 5:08:13 PM8/30/07
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If you aren't getting money for swabs or 35% of cost of lancets, quote the directive to your local
office. (9.12) I seem to be getting 36¢ per injection for needles, according to the breakdown I got
from my team. If your local office still won't pay for swabs or part of the cost of lancets, try
going to your MPP, it's an election year, they should be working extra hard!

Rosie


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Sent: Monday, August 27, 2007 11:23 AM
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shelly75

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Aug 31, 2007, 11:14:52 AM8/31/07
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Im not diabetic but have a question relating to it?
if ODSP gives you such a hard time about needles why not use the pen
type injector?
Thats what my boyfriend uses and I walked into shoppers drug mart told
them what I needed no precrpiton nothing and they gave me one for him
for free? my understanding from another person on ODSP is they cover
the tips for the pen types alot easier as well?

Rosie

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Aug 31, 2007, 2:38:05 PM8/31/07
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Hi Shelly, ODSP hasn't given me a hard time about needles, but regarding the pen, I did use it when
I first went on insulin. However, I found that the one type of insulin I take burned when I injected
it and it was suggested to me that I use a syringe with a long needle - something about injecting
deeper would not burn. That worked for me, I use the long needle syringes and it doesn't burn.

It was a bit of a bummer to have to switch, as the pen is so much more convenient. And, like you
say, the pens are free and the tips are covered by ODSP - I think they are pretty close to the same
price as the neeedles - or were 8 years ago, not sure about now.

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