Seeking current and ex-tenants of Bayshore Property Management

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Stylist

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Sep 9, 2008, 7:32:15 PM9/9/08
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Hi fellow ODSP'ers,

Stylist here.
I am taking my Property Management Firm, Bayshore Property
Management, out of Barrie, to the Landlord Tenant Board. I am alleging
that Bayshore has and is harassing me. I am also alleging that
Bayshore Property Management is discriminating against me because I am
on ODSP and because I am subsidized.
If you are a tenant or an ex-tenant of Bayshore's, or you know someone
who is or has been, please get in contact with me.
I am interested in collecting statements from current and ex-tenants
who have complaints or beefs about how Bayshore Property Management
treated them.
If you were subsidized and on ODSP while a tenant in a Bayshore
managed unit, I am especially interested in hearing from you.
No money is required and if necessary I will come to you to get a
statement.
This is all completely optional as far as participation is concerned
and may possibly result in getting your problems and complaints dealt
with by the Landlord Tenant Board, at no cost to you.
Again, there is no cost or fee to talk to me and to have your
questions and concerns addressed.
Please spread the word and feel free to give out my email address.
Thank you all.

Blessings,
Stylist

abrowne

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Sep 9, 2008, 9:20:14 PM9/9/08
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Stylist,
Just curious:  what kind of harassment are you getting?
You can write me directly if you want.  (I am at
browne...@yahoo.com).

I am a licensed Paralegal and have represented tenants in
the past, including some particularly bad harassment cases.

Also, with respect to the subsidization, it may not be imposed
by the landlord but by the social housing rules.  These rules in
themselves are discriminatory - though "legal" seemingly.
But harassment on either basis - ODSP/subsidy - is unwarranted.
A

ma_ket...@hotmail.com

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Sep 9, 2008, 9:52:36 PM9/9/08
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Hi Guys

My understanding is..if you intend to get statements from ex or present
tenants of Bayshore Properties they would have to be at the hearing in case
anyone wished to question them however I know you must request X number of
people attending your hearing and let them know what they are attending for.
This is only a suggestion as my expertise is in the court room not at a
tribunal hearing....you could try a class action with previous tenants
through the civil process or small claims under a certain amount I think it
is $15,000.00 now max.
Anyone signing a statement would have to attend though.
As well you may be able to get some pro bono help if your case is strong and
you can locate a number of people to make it worth while to the law firm
representing you especially if it is a precedent setting case.
I don't know what you are taking the landlord to court for exactly but there
is a $10,000.00 fine for landlords who make false statements and who do not
follow and adhere to the act as it is written.
It isn't about money to you I am sure it is a matter of principle.
Every person could ask for an abatement which is a good way to go...I did
this once and was awarded $5850.00 for a fireplace listed in the ad as
working which upon checking had previously been the cause of a large fire in
the basement which the local fire department wrote a report on and which the
LL didn't bother to have repaired properly.
I resided at this residence for 4 years ...the fireplace did not work at
all...judge calculated what I could have saved by the fireplace not being in
proper repair etc
Just a suggestion ...abatements are fairly often awarded provided you have
done your homework and have a paper trail of contacting the LL about your
complaints several times to no avail.
LL also tried to get me to pay for an old dishwasher left in the house when
I rented it...I called her previous to purchasing a new one and she said she
had just had it repaired to the tune of 333$. I told her it did not work on
my 2nd contact and asked her if she would like it back and she said no..
however she wanted me to store it in the garage ...I refused...it was quite
old and did not work.
I contacted her a 3rd time and told her I was calling the city to place it
in a special garbage pick-up and she replied are you sure it doesn't
work...ok...I guess so.
Out I went.
When I gave notice and purchased my own home and moved I was served with
legal papers through small claims court and the first thing she asked for
was 333$ for replacement of
her not too old dishwasher.
While the learned judge was questioning me he said what color was this not
too old dishwasher ...I replied bronze/brown...he said good lord woman those
haven't been manufactured since the early 80's and proceeded to go through
all her other complaints a list of endless nonsense until he finally refused
to listen anymore told her basically forget it and left me with an abatement
of 5850.$
The old gal wasn't happy and continued to screech outside the court room
down the stairs and outside could still be heard frothing at the bit.
All that's well ends well.
Moral of this story ...do it....do it right... back it up with paper
work..and don't back down.
I found out later that this same LL had quite a few other properties some
not fully legal and was taken to court yet again by 8 tenants in one of her
small bldgs.

Regards
ma

Stylist

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Sep 10, 2008, 11:13:14 AM9/10/08
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On Sep 9, 9:52 pm, <ma_kettle...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Guys
>
> My understanding is..if you intend to get statements from ex or present
> tenants of Bayshore Properties they would have to be at the hearing in case
> anyone wished to question them however I know you must request X number of
> people attending your hearing and let them know what they are attending for.
>
> representing you especially if it is a precedent setting case.
> I don't know what you are taking the landlord to court for exactly but there
> is a $10,000.00 fine for landlords who make false statements and who do not
> > working which upon checking had previously been the cause of a large fire in
> the basement which the local fire department wrote a report on and which the
>
Dear Ma Kettle,

Thank you for your wonderful long email and stories. I really
appreciate the stories.
I am pursuing Bayshore Property Management and my Landlord Orillia
Christian Fellowship Non Profit Housing Corporation for harassment and
many other things through the Landlord Tenant Board. It has been gong
on for years and is complex and involved-too involved to get into
here. However, suffice it to say that there is a very thick file or
paper trail and I do believe, as my Paralegal believes, that they have
hung themselves on their own paper and in their own words.

I may also take action against the Simcoe County Housing but that
remains to be decided in the near future.
We are aware that if we get Statements in writing from tenants and ex-
tenants that we may be required to have then attend the Hearing.First
we must get the statements. I fully expect that once others victimized
by Bayshore hear about this that they will want to join in so it may
become a group action or class action, if the Residential Tenancies
Act allows for that. I don't know yet.
Once I get a Decision from the LTB in my favor I will use that to
obtain a personal injury civil litigator who works on a contingency
fee to sue their asses. I may also consider a Human Rights Tribunal
Claim as well. That remains to be seen.
If you know of any Bayshore tenants or ex-tenants please ask them to
contact me by phone or email. Phone is 705-323-9635. Thanks Ma.
Blessings,
Stylist
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