[odspfireside: 28485 ] Changing residence while on ODSP

[Dreky123]

Hey,

This is my first post and I only have a limited time to browse thru
the forum so I decided to put the question out there and hope I get
some answers from people who have had a similar situation or can give
a good advice.

Well here is the situation.

My dad and mom are ODSP recipients and would like to move to another
apartment that costs more in rent, a bit more then the maximum
allowance provided by ODSP. Would ODSP allow that or they wont since
the rent is more?
And are there any differences in allowance from one city to another.
Is the rent and basic allowance the same in Ontario regardless where
you live or different. And also, would I be able to find the numbers
for the allowance for different cities or that is only available at
the local ODSP office.

Well I hope I get you guys to help out here. I greatly appreciate it.

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[Natasha St-Amand]

It's the same for all of Ontario. The maximum is around $450 per person. Hope this helped.

[Brenda]

ODSP shelter allowance is the same province wide.
Here's the link to the directives.
http://www.mcss.gov.on.ca/en/mcss/programs/social/directives/index.aspx

[anarchris]

you must be new!
odsp doesn't decide where we live or what circumstance but they won't
give any more than the shelter cost so you have to pay like most of us
from the rest of your pension. don't think of the shelter and food as
'separate' or something. just know that if your rent is less than the
maximum, they'll reduce your shelter portion and if it's more than the
max, they don't give you more although sometimes if heat and hydro are
extra after rent, they might give more for those things-ask your
caseworker. no, you don't get different allowances for different
cities-same for everyone in the province.
anarchris

[katkit]

They will let them yes, but if it has more bedrooms than the current
apartment, they will question why and assume they are renting out the
extra room.

Also, they give a really hard time about doling out start up for a
more expensive place. They will probably call them into the office for
an interview why its impossible for them to live in the current
apartment and why they cant find a cheaper apartment than the one they
want.

The ODSP rates are the same all over ontario, big cities get no more
than small towns

They will also not usually give start up before you move to a
different city, they make you apply for it in the new city, after you
get there, so most of the time it is not possible to use the money for
train tickets or a moving truck or gas money. The advantage of
applying for it after you get there is that they wont question the
rent amount usually. Some offices will go so far as to not issue
anything other than the regular amounts if they think you will use it
to move to a new city. if you tell them or they hear you are moving to
another city, they will deny employment start up and any
discretionary funds lest you use it for moving. Stupid rules that make
it so difficult.

If you are moving on the 1st and get a check on the last day of the
month from the local office, you will not get a monthly check from the
new office, just start up, so you have to be careful to save enough of
it for rent and food for the month as start up will not cover this.
Mind you it is almost impossible with moving costs they wont give you
especially since the new office wont give money for moving costs you
already paid out of the monthly check.

In short, it is possible, but very difficult and stressful to get a
more expensive place and almost impossible to move to another city
without going broke or worse. I speak from experience, I had to borrow
money just to get a moving truck or lose all my belongings when moving
from city to city and then they tried to take that loan off my check

[corrinna]

The maximum shelter allowance is the same throughout the province
and does not change according to the city in which you live. Of
course your parents are free to move to a place with a higher shelter cost,
but they will have to take funds from their basic needs to cover the amount
above the shelter maximum. You can find maximum shelter amounts for
them here :

http://www.mcss.gov.on.ca/NR/MCFCS/ODSP/ISDIR/en/6_2.pdf

It states that maximum shelter rates for 2 persons is 700.00


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From: "Dreky123" <dali...@hotmail.com>

My dad and mom are ODSP recipients and would like to move to another
apartment that costs more in rent, a bit more then the maximum
allowance provided by ODSP. Would ODSP allow that or they wont since
the rent is more?
And are there any differences in allowance from one city to another.
Is the rent and basic allowance the same in Ontario regardless where
you live or different.

[Dreky123]

First of all I would like to thank you all who replied. It is great to
hear from others, makes things a bit easier. Thank you guys so much. I
will be coming back here on this forum for future question.

On May 14, 9:59 am, "corrinna" <corrinnacorri...@gmail.com> wrote:
> The maximum shelter allowance is the same throughout the province
>  and does not change according to the city in which you live. Of
> course your parents are free to move to a place with a higher shelter cost,
> but they will have to take funds from their basic needs to cover the amount
> above the shelter maximum. You can find maximum shelter amounts for
> them here :
>
> http://www.mcss.gov.on.ca/NR/MCFCS/ODSP/ISDIR/en/6_2.pdf
>
> It states that maximum shelter rates for 2 persons is 700.00
>
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> From: "Dreky123" <dalibo...@hotmail.com>