Eyewear Help

[Cindy Spowart-Cook]

please bear with me as this will be a long post.  well over a month ago now i broke my glasses in half and they were not fix-able at all.  now, i had not had glasses through ontario works (i started on odsp in may of 2008) for five years.  i had spoken with my worker in august month (i had broken them previously in may month but was able to glue them back together) and she said just to get my eyes checked and fax her the prescription. as i am sure most of you will understand if you are on psych disability, things get in the way of one actually going out there and getting things done. at any rate, i was able to find my previous glasses and can wear them and see okay. my closest eyewear store, they said they had a free eye test.  i went there.  they said that i had to choose frames first and then i could have the eye test.  well, i took quite a bit of time choosing frames.  then, when it came time for the eye test, the woman told me that odsp would not accept their eye test as it is not a prescription.  i begged her to let me call my worker and just have the test done and faxed through.  no.  i ended up having a panic attack and leaving the store with nothing accomplished. then, i checked the odsp guidelines re eye tests and found that yes, i was covered for the eye test to be paid for.  so, i made an appointment with an eye doctor (not my usual specialist) to have my eyes tested.  it was beside a hakim optical. i went into hakim after the test and the woman there faxed the prescription to my worker.  she gave me a basic price of what it was going to cost me above what odsp pays for glasses but it was for 2 pair of glasses and i don't need or want two pair.  she said that i had to contact my worker and get a voucher. i went into another store that same day.  the fellow there said the same thing.  come back when you have a voucher. i call my worker and she says that they don't do vouchers anymore.  she said to go to the place where i was going to buy my glasses and have them fax her a quote of how much my lenses were going to cost and that they only pay $42 for frames.  fine. this week i finally made it to the place i had decided to buy the glasses.  i go through the process of picking out frames again. i get up to the counter.  i explain the situation to the man there.  i said, my worker needs you to fax her a quote re the cost of the lenses and then she will fax something back to you. he said no - you need a voucher.  i was in there on the 30th.  he showed me a voucher dated the 29th that he had filled, obviously, for someone else.  he priced out my lenses, but said that he could not fax the worker the quote because i still can't do anything without a voucher. now, it took me a couple of days to settle down after all of this.  three places telling me i need a voucher before they can do anything; me wandering around in old frames.  i call my worker to-day, but of course she's out of the office until monday so i left a message saying that i have now had the third eyewear store tell me they cannot do anything without the voucher, which is a long form, in, not triplicate, but four copies.  the eyewear store keeps the yellow copy. the thing is, i just want to know how much money to keep in the bank to be able to get the bloody things, you know?  and it couldn't have happened at a worse time - i was hoping to use the money i've put aside for christmas stuff. what do i do monday if the worker still says that the voucher isn't how you do it now?  and, is she correct?  or, do i ask to speak with her supervisor? since i have many psych issues, including severe anxiety and agoraphobia, these trips to try to get something that should be relatively simple resolved have nearly killed me. any help would be greatly appreciated. many thanks and best wishes! :)

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[anarchris]

i've had the same fiasco in ottawa over my glasses. different people
tell you different things. my worker swore up and down that odsp
doesn't pay for eye exams anymore but the optometrists say if you
bring your odsp stub and ohip card the exam is paid for every two
years only. the glasses themselves are paid for every 2 or 3 years
(not sure) unless they break or something. because of the bus strike
i've been sitting on a prescription and voucher waiting to fill them.
of course, if all else fails we can grieve the decision and in drastic
cases take odsp to a tribunal.
anarchris

On Jan 2, 8:01 am, Cindy Spowart-Cook <cin4...@yahoo.ca> wrote:

> what do i do monday if the worker still says that the voucher isn't how you do it now?  and, is she correct?  or, do i ask to speak with her supervisor?

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[Nathan]

Some eye doctors accept the drug card, some do not. You just have to
phone around and ask.

[Michael Bird]

On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 12:48 PM, anarchris <abolish...@yahoo.ca> wrote:

the optometrists say if you
bring your odsp stub and ohip card the exam is paid for every two
years only.

 

   Those who are diabetic need their eyes tested every year and this is covered.  Mike

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[Slim Pickens]

I had an eye exam in March and opted for new frames. My optometrist's
office faxed ODSP for approval for "welfare" frames and the new
lenses. OHIP covered the exam. I paid the difference and got frames
that didn't announce to everyone that I was on the system.

[Gypsy1701]

On Jan 2, 11:01 am, Cindy Spowart-Cook <cin4...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> please bear with me as this will be a long post.  well over a month ago now i broke my glasses in half and they were not fix-able at all.  now, i had not had glasses through ontario works (i started on odsp in may of 2008)

Hello Sorry you had such a mess go go through I think many of us have
delt with this issue . Mostly due to lack of knowlege and caring on
both odsp and the stores parts.
I just went through five months hastle with a glass's replacement
thank god the place I delt with was very nice and gave them to me
early or I would be blind all that time.
Anyhow the other posters are right about being covered just show your
stub from cuurent month and I had the same thing re the so called
voucher. What my office in Sarnia had me to was get the script which I
took back to them and submitted the copy of it. I went right to the
store I wanted to deal with picked my glass's and she wrote it all
up....... she didn't fax it either but I took the papers in and
submited a copy of that as well. Once it was all handed in I had to
bug and bug to get them paid for it's a wonder that some places don't
want to deal with us when it takes forever for them to get paid , we
look like or feel like crap for it and when it is all said and done I
have rarely met anyone who accually had the entire cost of it paid and
thats with those garabage free frames......... just another one of the
things that needs to be fixed re odsp and us disabled getting fair
treatment ....

[larr...@gmail.com]

Gypsy, don't be like that.

It is not about a lack of knowledge. It is not complicated. The
glasses are here. The reciept and prescription is here. ODSP is on
the other end of this fax machine. I send them to odsp and ODSP sends
me however much they are supposed to pay. It would be easier and
faster for everyone.

But it doesn't work that way because somebody somewhere doesn't want
it to. Because they want you to not get glasses, or to give up and
pay for it instead of buying food.

It's quite simple, and all this you hear from people about how it's
all "the system"'s fault and oh everything just has to be very
complicated and difficult because that's the way it is is just a
smokescreen.

Don't fall for it. That's what they want.

If you don't think it could be simple like that, I'd like very much to
hear why not. It better be good.

[shelly75]

I'm lucky my eye doc's office has a really huge selection of nice
frames in the ODSP price range I very rarely top up my cost for
frames.

"she said to go to the place where i was going to buy my glasses and
have them fax her a quote of how much my lenses were going to cost and
that they only pay $42 for frames."

unless something has changed or each city sets its own amount you may
want to verify that my optometrist and ODSP both say 24 for frames,
lens don't dont have a limit they just don't cover the extras like
scratch coating

Generally ODSP will mail you the voucher. You then call the eye doc
and tell them you have it most will make the glasses and allow you to
bring it in when they are ready. This last time ODSP mailed both mine
and my Daughters vouchers directly to my eye doc for me because I had
included a letter stating I was on crutches due to a broken foot and
could they mail it direct for me.

[Cindy S-C]

i'd like to thank everyone for your responses. i did get my eye
test. i phoned the eye doctor i wanted to see and they were helpful,
telling me to bring my drug card in, which i did and my test was done
and 'script issued. aside from the experience at the first eyewear
store, which was before the eye test (and was hell - not the eye
test), that's when everything hit the fan. three eyewear places since
the test and prescription being faxed to my worker saying that they
need a voucher from odsp and my worker saying they don't do that
anymore. i have money put aside to cover any costs above what the
voucher will cover. i just want my glasses. i did call my worker
last week but she's away until to-day and i left her another detailed
message, telling her i had gone to the store where i planned to buy
the glasses (that's where the fellow showed me what a voucher looks
like - one he had filled the previous day for someone on odsp) and
that this is the third eyewear store to tell me i need the voucher.
what happens if she calls me back to-day and still says that they
don't do the vouchers anymore? ~ to the person that wrote about the
"welfare bin", i totally agree. that's why i have money put aside. i
have my glasses on 24/7. without going into stuff like my usual
attire (i have 2 children that need clothes more than i do), i do want
glasses that look decent. and, as i say, i have money put aside to
get them if i can just get the bloody voucher issued. ~ i am very
sorry that other's have encountered similar situations. i have not
had a new pair of glasses for five years and i can tell you "back
then" when on ontario works, my soul, i didn't have the problems i'm
having now. add into that why i'm on disability in the first place and
it's just not a pretty picture and my worker just does not seem to
*get* it. at any rate, i will post anything more i hear, but it's so
tiring fighting for everything, as everyone knows. why can't the
voucher simply (simply) be issued?

[Lorene]

I always go to my eye doctor every 2 years regardless and get a new
prescription. I take it directly to ODSP for them to photocopy (I keep
the originals). I don't trust the mail or fax machines. Few days later
up to a week and half, I always get a voucher in the mail to go any
store I want to. The last time I had the voucher was last April and I
never ever had an problem getting a new pair of eye glasses at least 4
times in 9 years since I have been ODSP.

Last time couple years ago, I needed new Alertmaster devices in my
apartment because I am hearing impaired. I told ODSP about this. They
told me to go to March of Dimes to get an order in to ODSP. I went to
March of Dimes. They have no clue what I am talking about, since they
only deal with wheelchairs, scooters, etc, not hearing impaired
devices. This went on for couple months. I kept on going back to ODSP
every couple weeks to bug them until the caseworker realized her
mistake. She apologized right to my face. She meant to direct me to
Canadian Hearing Society, not March of Dimes, to get the devices and
have them fax the order to them. I did that. I got my devices in
couple weeks. When I was OW many years ago, they paid for my 1st
Alertmaster. It was not working right years later, so I needed a new
one. Mike Harris had cut that funding for the hearing impaired for
those on OW and ODSP out by then in late 90's, but it has been
reinstated back couple years ago, which made me happy because I need
to know someone is calling me on the phone, buzzing at my door or
buzzing me from the front lobby, etc and the lights in my apartment
flash to let me know. It is also hooked up to the smoke detector, too.
I have one device in each room of my apt including the bathroom.

Lorene

[mking101]

If you go to an opthamologist (eye doctor) the exam is covered under
OHIP

[mking101]

I need progressive lenses (3 focal distances). The doctor filled out
the prescription stating I needed these for medical reasons (you need
'medical reasons' to get these lenses). ODSP in Ottawa sent me the
letter stating they authorized 'as per prescription'. I went to
Lenscrafters and the man there refused the letter, he stated that it
should read' 'progressive lenses as per prescription'. I asked why and
he said in the past ODSP stiffed them by not paying the total cost -
they stated that 'progressive lenses' was not mentioned in the letter
so they were not paying (my prescription averages $400). I contacted
ODSP and they sent another letter.

But imagine that, they are only paying half the cost of the 'welfare
frames' and they cheat them on the cost on top.

And I paid extra for better frames as I was always in the store having
them adjusted. Plus I paid extra for transition lenses - a real boon.
I cost me $212 in all.

[Frank]

>>>what happens if she calls me back to-day and still says that they don't do the vouchers anymore?<<<

DEMAND to speak to her supervisor!

Take care,
Frank.
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[Annie]

Almost the same thing happen to me. I got progressive, transition and
non glare lenses. Cost to me 188.00. Total cost was 586.00 I was
thrilled. ODSP didn't understand something and phoned eye glass place to
get the answer.

[Annie]

I didn't get a voucher. I handed everything in as stated, handed me
back the yellow copy ( I think). The store had every else.

Frank wrote:
> >>>what happens if she calls me back to-day and still says that they
> don't do the vouchers anymore?<<<
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> DEMAND to speak to her supervisor!
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[Frank]

>>>If you go to an opthamologist (eye doctor) the exam is covered under OHIP<<<

I believe this was no longer allowed as the Liberals changed it.

Take care,
Frank.
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[T Spafford]

this eyeglass chat has been very *eye* opening ..  sorry , couldnt resist. But yes .. thank you .. i recieved these seamless bi focals two years ago this coming march. I never went to an eye examination .. just what the optometrist did in his office. The prescription has never been right, and the lenses have fallen out so many times , that they are chipped and scratched all over.
 The office i went to seemed to have a different attitude upon learning i was on ODSP. Anyways ..  i can make a proper eye exam appointment this time ?  And then shop around for the best deal ??  Weeeeee  
 
  thanks guys..
  n gals  LoL

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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 08:59:32 -0500
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[Annie]

I just got mine so fresh I'm not used to the progressive lenses yet...
And I'm going to a surgeon too. Only for the glaucoma test.
Annie

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[Den Bar]

You know guys, some might find my suggestion a little contreversial, but here it is anyway.
 
St Vincent De Paul, on Wellington Street West, (Ottawa) Sells used eyeglassess, prescription eyeglasses, for 99 cents. They have a rather surprisingly large selection, and even a few sunglassess. Personally, I think the frames are up to date; within say the past 4 years, or so. I've been able to get three pairs which fit my prescritption 99.9% accurate. Not only am I happy with the fashion of them, I'm totally surprised at the range of prescription types they have in that rack just as you come in the front door.
 
So, for all of you who just can't be bothered with the bureaux-cratic red tape, the appts. the demeaning treatment having to chose heavy, cheap and ugly frames in the "budget" section at the optomitrists...... then perhaps this idea just might be for you.
 
I'm happy I found them there, i now have at least 6 pairs of perfectly suitable eyeglasses, in great condition, up to date fashionably, and best of all, i can now read the signs on the walls crisp and clear at the other side of that huge store that is St. Vincent.
 
and not only that, the money goes to a good cause. charity at home!. 99 CENTS people!!
 
Cheers all, denny.

> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 02:22:35 -0500
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> Subject: [odspfireside: 20493 ] Re: Eyewear Help

[Gypsy1701]

what better be good....... I agree with what your saying it would be
easier..... unfortunately it isn't that easy I spent five months
trying to get the glass's I was entitled to paid for by odsp . And yes
no fax was sent on my account .
it should not take five months to sort out glass's on odsp's end of
things right?
the paperwork I submitted several times had to float around their
office for those five months.
that lack of knowlege seems to be within odsp as of late. Not us we
seem to keep up on their changes etc.

[Gypsy1701]

this is true they no longer cover on ohip...... only if you show them
your odsp or ow current statement. As I found out this last time I
went for glass's
this summer.

On Jan 6, 8:59 am, Frank <fhadza...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
> >>>If you go to an opthamologist (eye doctor) the exam is covered under OHIP<<<
>
> I believe this was no longer allowed as the Liberals changed it.
>
> Take care,
> Frank.
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[Annie]

I just got mine so fresh I'm not used to the progressive lenses yet...
And I'm going to a surgeon too. Only for the glaucoma test.
Annie

Frank wrote:
>

> I believe this was no longer allowed as the Liberals changed it.
>
>
> Take care,
> Frank.
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[shelly75]

quote- St Vincent De Paul, on Wellington Street West, (Ottawa) Sells

used eyeglassess, prescription eyeglasses, for 99 cents. They have a

rather surprisingly large selection- end

I would not suggest buying used prescription glasses, with it being
off even a slight difference can harm your eyes worse than wearing no
glasses.

My eye glass doctors takes used glasses back to re-use the frames and
lens in 3rd world countries only after they re-adjust the lens for
that new person.

[Denise Haskell-Foley]

NEXT TOPIC!...
Forever in Peace and Harmony,
Denise




> Date: Tue, 6 Jan 2009 14:46:35 -0800
> Subject: [odspfireside: 20501 ] Re: Eyewear Help
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[Cindy S-C]

thank-you everyone for your replies. that's the other thing. the
last place i went to - the fellow was really helpful, he's the one
that showed me what a voucher looks like. he told me that odsp lies
and says that they will pay for progressive lenses (which my 'script
is) and when he gets reimbursed, they aren't paid for. he wrote out
what odsp would pay lense wise and frame wise and then he wrote out
how much extra i would have to pay. i'm all good with that. i have
the money saved in the bank for the extra. but i need that bloody
voucher!
~
i still haven't heard from my worker. what if i had not been able to
find my previous glasses? i honestly cannot see a thing without them.
~
also, no, i think it was frank, but may be mistaken. you are NOT
covered under ohip every two years now for an eye exam if you are
between the ages of 19 and 64, unless there are mitigating
circumstances (like diabetes, etc.). i called my own eye specialist
to see if he could get me in and his assistant told me that i would
have to pay for the exam, that i am not covered anymore. that was
before i knew that odsp did pay for the eye exam.
~
i don't know if i should call my worker again to-day or what.
~
i did go to the odsp website and read the directive for eyewear, but
it was in government speak, i did see the word "discretionary" and it
really didn't say anything.
~
you all are going to laugh at me, but i did think that once on odsp
things would be a bit easier - that the workers there would *get* that
we're all on disability for a reason and perhaps be more, um,
compassionate.
~
oh, and a reminder, kinda separate, but did anyone who pays their own
hydro apply to get the cheque for $50.00 for the energy saving light
bulbs? i had asked my worker about that and she said that she needed
proof that i paid my own hydro and a note asking for the $50.00. i
had sent both things in and the cheque still didn't show up. so the
last time i had to speak with her (i guess at the beginning of the
eyewear saga), i asked her about it and the cheque got issued.
~
many thanks to everyone who has taken the time to kindly post. i
appreciate it. i somehow knew that if odsp came through, i was going
to need a support group (if you will), but my soul. eyewear?

[abrowne]

Hi Denise, You're free to start a new topic if you wish. Angela

[anarchris]

Cindy,
if someone tells you it's not covered, go to another. there are
optometrists who will take the ohip card every two years to cover an
eye exam. good luck
anarchris

[Frank]

>>>it should not take five months to sort out glass's on odsp's end of things right? the paperwork I submitted several times had to float around their office for those five months.<<<

I think after the first 2 weeks anyone should go online and send an email to the minister.

Go to ODSP ONLINE and make sure you click the button for a letter reply.

Take care,
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[Annie]

I think the area where you live has a lot to do with what you can _get
covered_. I got progressive lenses on my new glasses and no one worried
about OHIP.. I have to go every year now for an eye exam (because of
diabetes) I don't see any complications with that.. I also got new
dentures at the same time, I had to pay $183.93 for them.. Why the weird
number...??? I don't know. I didn't have any trouble with any of this
process... Just to let you know things CAN work right some times.
Annie

[Lorene]

On Jan 7, 11:01 am, Cindy S-C <cin4...@yahoo.ca> wrote:

oh, and a reminder, kinda separate, but did anyone who pays their own
hydro apply to get the cheque for $50.00 for the energy saving light
bulbs? i had asked my worker about that and she said that she needed
proof that i paid my own hydro and a note asking for the $50.00. i
had sent both things in and the cheque still didn't show up. so the
last time i had to speak with her (i guess at the beginning of the
eyewear saga), i asked her about it and the cheque got issued.

That is not strictly true. We do not have to show proof we pay hydro
in order to get the $50 for the energy saving light bulbs? I have
heard from other tenants who are on ODSP and they got the $50 for
light bulbs, caulking, weatherstripping, etc. They do not pay for
hydro and neither do I. I know because I have talked to few of them
who told me this.

Lorene

[jbkeh]

One of those "mitigating circumstances" is being on ODSP.

Keep in mind that ODSP does not "provide" some things, but rather
"provides ACCESS" to some things that are limited to specific groups.
An example is ODB where we get the drug benefits normally for seniors.

So, OHIP will give you an eye exam every two years because you are on
ODSP.

But normally, ODSP will pay for a new set of glasses only every three
years. Exceptions are no-fault loss or damage (children get a pass on
this). New lenses can be obtained at any time if there is a
significant change in the prescription (ANY change for kids), but are
expected to be fitted to the current frame. Prescriptions outside the
norm (progressive etc) MUST be accompanied with letter from the doctor
stating that it is a medical necessity. This must be provided first to
ODSP (so that the authorization form explicitly covers the
prescription) and second to the dispenser, so that he may be paid.

The last time I got new glasses, I went through the following steps:

1. Obtained a new prescription. (Prescriptions are valid for six
months.)
2. Shopped around.
3. Requested authorization form from ODSP. They date the form to
expire in 30 days - hence the shopping around FIRST.
4. Returned to store with best offer, ordered glasses. Gave them the
authorization but would not sign it until glasses received.
5. Picked up glasses and signed form.

[patriciadusanko]

Hello all

Does anyone have a ball park figure of how much it would cost to set up a Henson Trust

is it in the hundreds of dollars or a thousand or more???

I have been doing research on the Henson and non Henson trust

I understand that with a non Henson trust the cost could be taken out of the estate

but how about if you wanted to set up a Henson trust right now

some feedback would be greatly appreciated

 

thanks

 

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[Slim Pickens]

For years people often had an eye exam only every 5 years, I did until
about 45. Then I needed one at 47 and 50. Then not again for approx 5
yrs. Then the optometrists decided to promote that eye exams were
needed annually and for the great masses this wasn't necessary. There
is a huge markup in frames so this is where the profitability goes up.
For regular eye exams OHIP changed the rules back to 5 years in that
age bracket. Annual exams or biannual exams which often aren't
necessary are pretty costly on the medical system.

[Shelley Blidner]

no disrespect intended but could we PLEASE change the topic....

Thanks

[mking101]

It cost me $600

On Jan 8, 11:32 am, "patriciadusanko" <misspatri...@cogeco.ca> wrote:
> Hello all
> Does anyone have a ball park figure of how much it would cost to set up a Henson Trust
> is it in the hundreds of dollars or a thousand or more???
> I have been doing research on the Henson and non Henson trust
> I understand that with a non Henson trust the cost could be taken out of the estate
> but how about if you wanted to set up a Henson trust right now
> some feedback would be greatly appreciated
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[Cindy S-C]

would this not be more helpful to you, if you set it up as a separate
topic rather than under eyewear help? i don't know, just my personal
humble opinion.

On Jan 8, 10:32 am, "patriciadusanko" <misspatri...@cogeco.ca> wrote:
> Hello all
> Does anyone have a ball park figure of how much it would cost to set up a Henson Trust
> is it in the hundreds of dollars or a thousand or more???
> I have been doing research on the Henson and non Henson trust
> I understand that with a non Henson trust the cost could be taken out of the estate
> but how about if you wanted to set up a Henson trust right now
> some feedback would be greatly appreciated
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[Cindy S-C]

shelley, under the heading of "eyewear help" what exactly would you
like the topic changed to? make some sense! if you want to change
the topic, do you not start a new discussion about whatever it is YOU
want to discuss? as far as i understand it, this is still a
discussion about eyewear help. i am sure the mod could come in and
say, okay, enough info is "out there", subject closed, but crikey,
change the topic? i am so hesitant to post to this group (and another
odsp group) for help because of strangeness like this even though
there was no disrespect involved. start a new topic. end of story.
eyewear help. this topic.

On Jan 9, 9:52 am, "Shelley Blidner" <shelley.blidner...@sympatico.ca>
wrote:

[Marilyn Hamilton]

...or just use the "delete" key to remove anything with the word
"eyewear help" in the subject line. For me this has been an
interesting discussion and I have no problems with reading more. When
I've had enough, then I'll use my delete key. Simple solution and
everyone wins!

mar
kitchener, on
p.s. if you are wanting a different topic shelley, then why didn't
you start one in your original email asking to stop talking about
vision care...do you want to discuss something else???

On 9-Jan-09, at 11:29 AM, Cindy S-C wrote:

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> shelley, under the heading of "eyewear help" what exactly would you
> like the topic changed to? make some sense!

[patriciadusanko]

I agree
I simply forgot and over looked the subject line without changing it
to Henson trust


Patty

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[ma_ket...@hotmail.com]

Hi All

Please have the good grace to allow a person to discuss the topic of their
choice
with the group.
If you wish to discuss something with the group that option is open to
everyone
What may be interesting to some may not be to others
Happens all the time
When I realize I am not interested in a post I just move on
We all need to acknowledge the feelings of others allowing adequate time for
open discussion

Regards

ma

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[Abroxis]

Just had to get new glasses.

At the ODSP office a clerk took my eye glass prescription, she filled
out a legal size form with about a bunch carbon copy pages, signed it
and stapled my script to it.

My local optican is very friendly and chatty.

He explained that the opticans have a payment schedule listing what
ODSP will pay for.

This schedule has not be updated for close to ten years. Obviously
expenses have increased but ODSP only pays 1990's rates.

His cost of frames has increased to the point that virtually nothing
is available without adding extra money. The lenses, mine were
bifocals,
were covered cost me nothing but he made no money on them. He barely
got paid for the raw materials ( he has his own lab) ...... nothing
left for labour
other expenses or heaven forbid a bit of profit. Adding insult to
injury it takes close to a year for payments to arrive.

Financial circumstances will make it harder and harder to find an
optician that can provide glasses at ODSP rates.

[Cindy S-C]

patty, my post wasn't directed towards you. i know it can get kinda
confusing, or while you're reading one topic, something else blips
into your head and you go, oh, i'll write about this as well (like i
did with the light bulbs). i simply thought that for you, with a
query about the henson trust and non-henson trust (very important
stuff - and i'll be off to read that after i post this), you might do
better with a separate topic heading.
but for someone to come and say, change the topic? what?
i get the digest. i simply click on whatever discussion i want to
read about. if i don't want to read about eyewear help, i wouldn't.
and i do want to read about your henson trust information.
so, no, my post wasn't directed to you at all, in that other than the
fact, i knew you would get more attention and information if your
request wasn't buried within mine about eyewear care.

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[Cindy S-C]

ma, i completely agree with you. and, as i posted to patty, i thought
her topic would get more deserved attention, if out of the eyewear
topic section, you know? but the other person that said, could we
please change the topic, within a topic, why? start a new topic.
again, we all have the choice of what we read and what we respond to.
and what we want to set-up as a new topic to be discussed. and
comments like that simply send me batty, wondering why i post to begin
with.

[Cindy S-C]

abroxis, after reading your post, you can see why people are reluctant
to deal with *us*. i haven't shopped for glasses in over five years
and i have to tell you, i was shocked at the prices of frames alone.
then again, i may shock easily. the thing that ticked me off is that
i do have the extra money saved and put aside to buy the glasses. i
simply need the voucher. and i keep saying, what would have happened
if i hadn't found my old glasses? i can't see! ~ at any rate,
hopefully i will get the voucher this week and the fellow i saw was
very pleasant and didn't seem to have a problem dealing with odsp, so
here's hoping.

[Cindy S-C]

ma, i completely agree with you. and, as i posted to patty, i thought
her topic would get more deserved attention, if out of the eyewear
topic section, you know? but the other person that said, could we
please change the topic, within a topic, why? start a new topic.
again, we all have the choice of what we read and what we respond to.
and what we want to set-up as a new topic to be discussed. and
comments like that simply send me batty, wondering why i post to begin
with.

On Jan 10, 1:49 am, <ma_kettle...@hotmail.com> wrote:

[Scott]

Hi Patricia,
As you know I too have being doing research on this most important
subject Henson Trust and it's cost and really thank you for getting
the ball rolling.
Many thanks,
Scott

Oh.. sorry for the eye wear interruption people.
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On Jan 8, 11:32 am, "patriciadusanko" <misspatri...@cogeco.ca> wrote:
> Hello all
> Does anyone have a ball park figure of how much it would cost to set up a Henson Trust
> is it in the hundreds of dollars or a thousand or more???
> I have been doing research on the Henson and non Henson trust
> I understand that with a non Henson trust the cost could be taken out of the estate
> but how about if you wanted to set up a Henson trust right now
> some feedback would be greatly appreciated
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[Cindy S-C]

scott (and patricia), i appreciated the henson trust discussion as
well - just thought it shouldn't get lost in eyewear, you know? and
after reading in patricia's thread, i found out that i had to phone my
mom to get her to call her lawyer to see how much the lawyer is going
to charge her to revise her will. otherwise, i had thought that i
could set up the henson after the fact. it's a very very important
discussion.

[Cindy S-C]

i spoke with my odsp worker this morning and my voucher was finally
issued yesterday. now let's see what happens. :)