Re: [odspfireside: 49886 ] Response from Kathleen Wynne in regards to my email

73 views
Skip to first unread message

ROBERT ALDRED

unread,
Apr 20, 2013, 2:39:07 PM4/20/13
to odspfi...@googlegroups.com, SW
This is like a "Work will set you free" speech.   What is this "the services provided are meant to allow people to work" stuff.   ODSP is designed in theory and someday hopefully in practice, as it should be, to help people lead a decent life that cant necessarily work.   This position is ideological and not reality based. 



On Sat 20/04/13 2:08 PM , SW stormwon...@gmail.com sent:
Here is the response I got from Kathleen Wynne or her reps in regards to my email about the suggestion of merging ODSP with OW:

"Thanks for taking the time to send your correspondence to me regarding social assistance. I value your input, and appreciate receiving your insight. I’ve also noted your concerns about distinguishing between disability benefit recipients and Ontario Works recipients.

We understand that being fiscally responsible is fundamental to our future, and that a fair and inclusive society is the foundation of a more prosperous Ontario. These are the principles that will guide us as we work on your behalf. Complex times require thoughtful, collaborative solutions, and that is why I have asked government officials to take the Commission for the Review of Social Assistance in Ontario’s recommendations under consideration. In the meantime our government will work to enable social assistance recipients to keep more of what they earn through their hard work, to help ease the challenging path they must navigate.

Our government believes that, to climb to great heights, everyone must have the same firm footing. Helping people now means helping ourselves immeasurably in the future, because the services we provide are meant to allow people to work, prosper and contribute to our province.

Thank you again for raising this matter with me. Please accept my best wishes."

 

Kathleen Wynne 
Premier of Ontario

 -----------------------------------------

I responded by saying that helping ourselves for the future is what we do every second of every day. We don't get holidays or weekends or to relax after 5pm. We suffer ongoing. This is what is lost to people who do not struggle daily. I also added that if they have money to build a Casino, they have money to INCREASE ODSP and OW.

I pointed out to look at the problems stemming from the UK transition--how homelessness has increased as well as suicide rates and violence. I then suggested she look at finland, who has NO homelessness because it is against the law there--they find homes for everyone and their country is not in a deficit. I ended it by stating that the reason the province is in a deficit is because those in government mismanaged the money. That is not our fault. Will see what they say.

--
--
You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "ODSP Fireside" group.
To change email delivery, nickname or unsubscribe from this group visit:
 
Http://groups.google.ca/group/odspfireside/subscribe?hl=en
 
To post to this group via email, send email to odspfi...@googlegroups.com
 
 

Paul

unread,
Apr 20, 2013, 2:53:38 PM4/20/13
to odspfi...@googlegroups.com
At 02:39 PM 4/20/2013, you wrote:
>This is like a "Work will set you free" speech. What is this "the
>services provided are meant to allow people to work" stuff. ODSP
>is designed in theory and someday hopefully in practice, as it
>should be, to help people lead a decent life that cant necessarily
>work. This position is ideological and not reality based.

is it me or do I find that when Gov. responds, they do by looking
pretty and talking a bunch of double-talk.

I've learned to ignore everything the Gov. promotes or talks about,
as it is jujst a bunch of make up to look pretty.

eythe bickmore

unread,
Apr 20, 2013, 8:17:34 PM4/20/13
to odspfi...@googlegroups.com
sorry but I do not understand the response from Kathleen Wynne. that was several paragraphs that said nothing.

ROBERT ALDRED

unread,
Apr 20, 2013, 4:37:44 PM4/20/13
to odspfi...@googlegroups.com
I dont think this is about cutting anyone off.  I think it is about trying to stop new people from coming on the system mostly.     



On Sat 20/04/13 2:59 PM , Olli sus...@rocketmail.com sent:
from what she says it sounds like the two are going to get joined together. i dont want to be treated like aon ow person. everyone things they  can work but just dont want to. i do what i can but there are ways i just cant work like anormal person. does that mean im going to get cut off now?

Bloggy.Deb

unread,
Apr 20, 2013, 4:34:58 PM4/20/13
to odspfi...@googlegroups.com

Well Played Premier Wynne, best bafflegab I have read in ages.

D

Bill Higgs

unread,
Apr 20, 2013, 6:01:58 PM4/20/13
to odspfi...@googlegroups.com
indeed all fluff and no substance, I can only imagine just what her election campaing platform will be full of???????????   lots of b....it and no concrete plans
 
Bill
Reply all
Reply to author
Forward
0 new messages