Re: [odspfireside: 53532 ] Moving/ start up allowance

[christian nrx]

in ottawa, you notify odsp  of the move with written estimates/lease and they forward it to OW. you could call OW too and ask them what they'll cover

anarchris

On Thu, May 7, 2015 at 10:41 PM, Elle Emm <lee_mo...@hotmail.com> wrote:

Ive read ODSP recipients now have to apply through OW for what used to be the Community Start up/ moving Allowance . What is my best line of defender for getting this. Recently relocated to assist with terminally ill parent, as well as be closer to children/ grandchildren.starting over with nothing really ?? Thanks for any info

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christian

[Hope]

So it IS covered in Ottawa through OW?  I thought it was completely eliminated.  Will they fix a broken air conditioner?  How about let's say I need a new washer/dryer or other appliance.  These are necessary appliances, I mean not the air conditioner (well I feel it is for me as I am overweight) buta fridge, stove and washer/dryer.

I really honestly though people were not given any money to move and therefore were held hostage in bad situations.

I do not need to move but are these other things covered?

This is good news that money can still be accessed as a move, ha, it's a dirty industry let's just say.  They charge you what they feel like and it's outrageous.  God, even to get a bedroom set from one side of the city to the other as I called several small time movers, they wanted $200.00.  For a bedroom set.  And oh, extra to take my old one away.  I am now at peace with my bedroom set as I realize I cannot afford to hire a truck for a new one.

[Lorene]

My mom got one for $50 bucks to take her old top mattress and box spring and my recliner chair I want to get rid of. She is getting a brand new mattress with a base (not box spring( from Leon's. My next project is to save up some money to get a new loveseat and get rid of my long couch. I don't want couches in my postage size apt. Nor does my mom, either. I see a loveseat that I love and it is close to $800 at Leon's. Ouch!!! I bought an office chair as it is much safer and nice back rest at Leon's. My old one is going to trash. Best of all, delivery of the bed and my chair is free of charge as long as your stuff comes to $500 and over. Oh yeah, they will set up my mom's bed free of charge.

My cousin and her hubby and their son who is now 20 got a brand new bedroom suite including mattress and box spring. They were told the guys will set it up for them. It was delivered alright but they would not set it up. Oh was she ever so mad. She called this guy Matthew to come and put the stuff together along with her son helping out. The hubby couldn't do much due to his back problems. Name of the store where they got if from was Teppermans. Delivery was not free.

I used to work for a credit agency for a short time. There was a huge stacks of judgements from Teppermans against the tcustomers. My job was to input infomration like ID numbers, customer's names, addresses and other info. IT was the staff's job  to find these customers by locating her home or cell or work phone numbers to get them to pay what they owe, even if that means they have to get to speak to their boss to give a message. It embarrassed the customers for getting these type of phone calls to their workplace.  I couldn't believe it. I would never buy anything from Teppermans for their shady practices they are selling and charging so much interest. Leon's do not that ever.

Lorene

[Rebecca Bradshaw]

Hello...I just went through the new process..its now called the housing stablization fund. If you are on ODSP then you need to apply to the housing stablization fund..As a domestic violence victim who has been stalked from ex was almost denied I had to submit doctor. they only give out the money if you can prove your homeless and a domestic violence survivor . I jumped through a lot of hoops..good luck

[abrowne]

This is region by region ... many will not even help ODSP recipients, but help OW receipients.  Some won't help anybody.  Others will pay but only a tiny fraction of what they used to only putting a tiny dent into the actual costs incurred, etc.  As for appliances, good luck ... in Niagara, they give you a list of charities to go beg to ... so you might as well paint a scarlet letter on your forehead.

[christian nrx]

to clarify, the money's i'm referring to are not ones that we can only get if we're in a domestic violence situation or homeless. i am eligible and i am neither. just need moving and last month's rent covered

nrx

[Hope]

Did you get this allowance or not Anarchris?

So the moving allowance does not exist except for victims of violence?  How about being the victim of a nasty premier.

Hey, did anyone see or go to the protest in Toronto on May 9th.

Resign Wynne Now.....you are ruining Ontario and it's going to get worse.

[christian nrx]

i haven't recieved it-i asked and was told by soc'l services that i could get moving/last months rent covered. therefore i conclude that we don't need to be in a special situation to get it. we get it like we did before for the same reasons-moving expenses. call them yourself and ask

nrx

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christian

[Justice4odsp]

Hi,

When I moved from Kingston I had to apply to OW. 

I was told the conditions were:

- Moving to a more cheaper location

- Fleeing abuse

- Health and Safety issues

- Risk of Homelessness.

The maximum amount was listed as $500.

When I went to apply I had already been talking to my ODSP worker. She knew that, by me moving to Toronto, it would save the government approximately $1,000 per month in Medical Transportation costs. The ODSP worker told me that the OW office has access to my ODSP record so it was suggested I ask the OW worker to read my file.

The OW worker told me that, on the face of it, I won't qualify.

Nevertheless she filled out the application, gave me phone numbers for two reasonably cheap and effective movers, and asked me to get two estimates and then return them.

The estimates given cost $1,650 and $1,695; very close to one another.

I also, on my own accord, called my housing provider to ask for a reminder of how much notice I had to give and if there would be a savings on the last month's rent.

Housing said two months notice and, because it was subsidized, there was no break on the last month's rent.

I almost gave my notice. Thankfully the housing provider encouraged me not to. She said if I find I can't afford to make the move and decided I'd have to stay, the option to stay would be gone. I'd be at risk of becoming homeless. 

I heeded her advice, gave OW the estimates, and then waited.

Finally the worker called. She said they could approve the full cost of moving as long as I'd already given my notice and could prove that I was now left with no choice but to move out.

I lost it.

I told her what took place in the conversation with the housing provider, explained that I'd decided to heed their advice and not put in the formal 2 month's notice, and then said (to the OW worker), why would you penalize me for making a choice that would keep me safe?

The OW worker said, would you be willing to put that in writing and send in your notice immediately? I said yes.

I got the email address for the OW worker and then wrote a long notice to housing and copied it to OW.

I basically thanked housing for the warning, stated I now had the money, and then gave the notice.

It was a bit wordy for housing but, because OW was copied in, it was fully accepted. In fact housing asked if they could use my letter as an example of a best practice if another tenant got caught in a similar trap.

Solved!!!

The lesson learned is level with everyone. Be honest, be transparent, make the best choices possible, ensure all those you talk to understand your strategy and why it is reasonable, and then it should work.  In Kingston, it appears flexibility in who gets the money and how much, exists for extenuating circumstances.

Louise

[christian nrx]

I was told that although OW would cover moving costs to Cornwall from Ottawa, that if i moved back, Cornwall would be responsible for costs and that they don't give as much as Ottawa. each municipality is different even though that's wrong and unfair

nrx

[Lorene]

Here in London, single people get $500 and a family get $750 as far as I know

Lorene