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This looks very yummy and I really want to try it, especially as a wrap. My only question is do you think it would work with homemade caesar dressing? I try hard to avoid bottled dressings due to food sensitivities but I do want to make it. Also is it just as good when the chicken is cold and is eaten as leftovers?
OH WOW! I have been wanting to make this for a longggg time. I've had it pinned forever! I finally made it tonight and goooodness me, it is AMAZING! I used the marketfresh walmart brand (in the veggie section) caesar dressing, and had to make my chicken fast so I did it on the stovetop.. Then I did as another suggested and added bacon. That sent it over the top! Definitely use the 1 cup of dressing! It is so good super creamy. My children (5 and 2) even ate it! That was a surprise. Thank you so much for this recipe, I will be making it many more times in the future!! :)
Then there is a third category of person who loves Cesar Millan to the nth degree. And these people are very vocal about how much they love him. And, you know, this is a podcast essentially about dog training. And here I am three years and 160 odd episodes in, and I have very, very rarely mentioned Cesar Millan or his show, the show he's best known for, The Dog Whisperer, on this podcast.
So, I first heard of Cesar Millan, I think it was 2006. And I don't remember thinking very much about him, or researching him very much. I wasn't dog-training then. I wasn't particularly interested in dog training. But I remember I was dating a guy who mentioned him and just how incredible he was, sort of what a magician he was. Nobody knew dogs like Cesar Millan.
I remember getting the sense that he was kind of a dog magician. And then I guess, in the years following that, I became aware that he was sort of becoming synonymous with dog training. To the point that I actually wrote an article late 2007 when I was still working as a freelance journalist for the New York Times, about how his show was inspiring more and more people to become professional dog trainers or to think about becoming professional dog trainers.
And I really had no, no idea at that point that there were different approaches to dog training. And this is something I think I talked about in one of the early episodes of the podcast, how it seemed to me kind of like insider baseball, when one dog trainer pooh-poohed another dog trainer's methods.
So, I feel like there's good dog training, and then there's like everything else. And to say, you know, some people use these methods and some many people use those methods, and you have to treat everyone with respect no matter what methods they use. I don't know. I no longer really see things that way.
But I certainly did at the time, so I am empathetic to those who have not seen the light of positive reinforcement dog training, and that I know what it's like to just see it all as kind of one thing. And when I wrote that article, I definitely saw it all as one thing.
A few years later, I enrolled in the Karen Pryor Academy to become a dog trainer. Although, like I said, even then, I don't think I really knew that much about different schools of dog training. I think I kind of lucked into finding a program that ended up pointing me in a direction that made a lot of sense to me.
Fast forward a few years. Graduated from Karen Pryor academy. And I had a sense at that point that what Cesar Millan was doing was antiquated, that he really was not up on the sciences behavior and the technologies that we use that draw on behavioral science in order to train a dog. That he didn't know about learning theory, that he didn't understand classical conditioning and operant conditioning, that he just sort of had an old fashioned view of dog training.
And I saw that and I thought, you know, God, dog training just shouldn't have to require that someone redo themselves as a person. You know? I want dog training to be easy. I want dog training to be understandable for the people I work with. I don't want people to feel like they need to go into therapy and start a yoga practice and really rethink who they are as human beings in order to get their dogs to listen to them, nor do I think that that's necessary.
Like I always think of Donald Trump, as an example. I don't like his energy, if that's what we're going to call it, but certainly plenty of other people think he has wonderful energy. Energy is just, it's not observable and documentable in any kind of scientific way when it's being used in the way that it's used by people when they refer to a person's energy or a dog's energy, as it has to do with dog training.
I also didn't like how he talks about his special powers that he was born with, which is something that he talks about I think even in the intro to the show, because I believe that dog training is something that people can learn.
And, you know, there's this disclaimer on his Dog Whisperer show, about how you shouldn't try these techniques at home. And I think that's too bad. If someone's devoting their time to watching a show about dog training, wouldn't it be nice if they really could use those techniques at home? And of course, I'm sure plenty of people have used those techniques at home. So, I had a lot of feelings about the Dog Whisperer after that session of watching it with my godmother.
And I just didn't know what to say. I said, I mean I think I said something along the lines of like, Well, the training that we do is really rooted in the science of behavior, and we try to work with variables that are measurable, whereas something like energy is not really part of what we talk about when we're talking about the science of behavior as it relates to dog training. And we attempt to use the least invasive methods possible, We don't believe in using force, dah dah dah dah.
I don't remember exactly what I said, but probably something along those lines. And she was basically just kind of like, well, I think that it's more important to consider both a person and a dog's energy in dog training. And I said something along the lines of, Really, well, where have you gotten your education about dog training? And she said, Well, I've watched a lot of the Dog Whisperer. [laughs]
And, I just couldn't believe that here I had decided to devote my life to dog training, I had graduated from Karen Pryor Academy, I was a Certified Professional Dog Trainer through the Certification Council of Professional Dog Trainers. I couldn't believe that Kate and I were sitting across from someone who was like equating our expertise with having watched a lot of The Dog Whisperer.
A lot of them talking about how I'm just jealous of him. And, you know, truth be told, I guess I am somewhat jealous of him because I wish I had the kind of platform that he has in order to spread the gospel of dog training that I think is a lot more humane and it makes a lot more sense. And yeah, I mean, I guess I wish I were a millionaire, so in those ways, I suppose I'm jealous. But I wouldn't trade it all in, in order to be training dogs the way he's training dogs.
He also really does seem like sort of a magician. I think a lot of that has to do with good editing. I think if you choose the little bits of a whole training process to show in a consolidated amount of time, and then don't follow up to see the fallout or the aftermath of using these punishment-based techniques, I think it's possible to make for a clip that does seem sort of magical.
But in my experience, having been a dog trainer myself for 10 years or so, like I said, I just don't think that good dog training requires so much work on one's self. I think there's a lot that we can do simply by understanding how to smartly arrange environments and to think about the different kinds of conditioning and what's motivating a dog and what associations a dog is making.
Cesar Millan has become such a part of our culture now that I worry that no other kind of dog training will ever be as popular as the kind of ill-advised, hard-to-explain type of punishment-based training that he calls, you know, he labels as something rooted in positivity and joy.
And that I felt, I thought that all people in America had this, the same thing, Lassies and Rin Tin Tins. But then I saw people walking in the streets with their dogs. So that was unusual for me because in my country or where I'm from, I never experienced that. You know? So then that's when I said, well, instead of me training dogs, I'm going to train people, right? And that's what I say, I train people and rehabilitate dogs.
But would you ever stop using these aggressive ways yourself? I mean, you still do it, you still do it yourself. You know, you still use the foot to kick the dog in the soft underbelly, beyond the rib cage. You still use these, you know, the electric shock collars, the spike collars, the punching in the throat, so until you stop doing that and say there are better techniques of bringing up your dog, training your dog, people are going to copy you!
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