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Michael JamesLong

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Nov 29, 2012, 3:41:58 PM11/29/12
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Jim and All:
Well it is very long .... but very good. and you have mentioned just about everything ... will be interesting to see what transpires...

One sentence ... about 19 paragraphs down ... Re Money... "I've got my SO if need me!"  .... did you mean to say NEED BE .. ??

Mike JL
On Nov 28, 2012, at 5:03 PM, ocfr...@googlegroups.com wrote:

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    jim goettler <j...@riseup.net> Nov 28 01:46PM -0800  

    Hi - here is a blurb for the discuss list - any feedback will be
    appreciated.
     
    I want to post it today or in the next day or so.
     
    Subject: Low Power FM at the Fair!
     
    Hi folks - this is the real deal.
     
    The FCC is about to - after a dozen years of hard fought negotiations
    with corporate media, congress, and every special interest you can think
    of - about to actually release the new rules and application details for
    next year's Low Power FM Frequency opening.
     
    It will be a 10 opening - probably in late spring/early summer - meaning
    planning needs to begin now if we are to make the application.
     
    The Fair - if we can get past a few hurddles - would stand an excellent
    chance of getting a frequency - especially if done in strategic
    partnership with the local Veneta community - to really live our ideals
    of love and cooperation - plus it would be very cool!
     
    Management has already expressed support in concept - realizing the
    tremendous outreach vehicle a radio station would present - not simply
    to sell tickets, but when combined with a full internet presence, really
    share our ideals and dreams and sense of community that IS the fair with
    a global audience.
     
    Once up and running - something that will take about 2 years from now -
    the station should be self sustaining - even able to return the admin
    fee to the fair for the fiscal sponsorship!
     
    Oh sure - it would be a project of the Fair - probably as an independent
    entity under the fiscal sponsorship of the fair - done all the time by
    established non profits to protect the parent group, etc - and as the
    application is absolutely free , less engineering costs which we may
    even be able to secure in trade - the initial costs can be kept very low
    - details we can figure out as a group as we move forward.
     
    There is a task force currently in a formative stage to research all the
    details and have something to bring to the board by spring - as this is
    one of those unique situations where we need to operate on world time as
    opposed to fair time! The task force is made up of a few elders - a few
    not even close to being elders - and is open to anyone interested in
    making this happen
     
    We have a google group, and are using google docs to store documents for
    anyone in the group to review.
     
    If anyone wants to get serious and learn a lot about LPFM - I urge a
    thorough read of 2 websites.
     
    First - the FCC's LPFM site: <
    http://www.fcc.gov/encyclopedia/low-power-fm-broadcast-radio-stations-lpfm>
    - which includes channel search tools -
     
    I don't want to get too far into the weeds on this list, but there are
    strong reasons to go for Veneta and not Eugene - with or without the new
    rules.
     
    Second - the most amazing site maintained by the most amazing people who
    are directly responsible for the rule changes and the FCC's soon to be
    enacted action, the Prometheus Project - < http://www.prometheusradio.org/>
     
    Most, if not all questions anyone can think up are being addressed by
    the task force (we're all long time fair folks - we know how everyone
    thinks!) - we have both full proposal drafts as well as a brief synopsis
    on the google group.
     
    To quickly acknowledge , if not answer some of the main questions that
    always come up -
     
    Our first need will be for general Board endorsement - - so 'we' can
    speak on behalf of the fair -
     
    Re money - the application is free - there will be an engineering cost,
    for which we may need to either seek board support (in the hundreds of
    dollars) - or work out a trade - I've got my SO if need me!
     
    Re who's gonna run it? - We have at least 2 years to get that together
    - - but the committee will be set adrift to find its way - which
    includes - after some minimal loan to ourselves raising the funds to
    make this thing happen - so there will never ever ever be a drain on ocf
    resources - nada.
     
    Won't this jeopardize the full power stations who broadcast from the fair?
     
    Of course not! We are talking a 100 watt station, as opposed to 90,000
    watts!
     
    Are the Eugene or Portland or Seattle daily papers threatened by the
    Fair Family news?!
     
    Whereas the larger stations carry our content - stages, talks, whatever
    - our radio station would BE us - no intermediary - no filter...plus
    would operate year round - using the massive audio files we have
    accumulated over the decades, teaching people to use the equipment -
    fostering story telling and song writing and jokes and so forth.
     
    Will it be difficult and challenging and prone to mis steps at every
    turn?..Of course - but they will be our challenges as a community.
     
    Would certainly love to discuss any of this on this list - as well as
    talk/email anyone off list who wants to get plugged in and help make
    this happen...get oin the google group - and see what's happening.
     
    We only have a few months to do a lot of work -
     
    Peace n love n stuff
     
    jim
     

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jim goettler

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Nov 29, 2012, 3:48:14 PM11/29/12
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Talked a bit with Robin in the town office - she is very interested in this and would like to get on this list.

Also Sandra Bauer - if she isn't already...

I know it's long - but figured might as well lay it out and give folks as much of an overview as possible.

We really don't have a lot of time to be screwing around!

Going to wait till tomorrow to post it - in the event the FCC rules have some negative surprises.



On 11/29/2012 12:41 PM, Michael JamesLong wrote:
Jim and All:
Well it is very long .... but very good. and you have mentioned just about everything ... will be interesting to see what transpires...

One sentence ... about 19 paragraphs down ... Re Money... "I've got my SO if need me!" �.... did you mean to say NEED BE .. ??

Mike JL
On Nov 28, 2012, at 5:03 PM, ocfr...@googlegroups.com wrote:



    Hi - here is a blurb for the discuss list - any feedback will be
    appreciated.
    �

    I want to post it today or in the next day or so.
    �

    Subject: Low Power FM at the Fair!
    �

    Hi folks - this is the real deal.
    �

    The FCC is about to - after a dozen years of hard fought negotiations
    with corporate media, congress, and every special interest you can think
    of - about to actually release the new rules and application details for
    next year's Low Power FM Frequency opening.
    �

    It will be a 10 opening - probably in late spring/early summer - meaning
    planning needs to begin now if we are to make the application.
    �

    The Fair - if we can get past a few hurddles - would stand an excellent
    chance of getting a frequency - especially if done in strategic
    partnership with the local Veneta community - to really live our ideals
    of love and cooperation - plus it would be very cool!
    �

    Management has already expressed support in concept - realizing the
    tremendous outreach vehicle a radio station would present - not simply
    to sell tickets, but when combined with a full internet presence, really
    share our ideals and dreams and sense of community that IS the fair with
    a global audience.
    �

    Once up and running - something that will take about 2 years from now -
    the station should be self sustaining - even able to return the admin
    fee to the fair for the fiscal sponsorship!
    �

    Oh sure - it would be a project of the Fair - probably as an independent
    entity under the fiscal sponsorship of the fair - done all the time by
    established non profits to protect the parent group, etc - and as the
    application is absolutely free , less engineering costs which we may
    even be able to secure in trade - the initial costs can be kept very low
    - details we can figure out as a group as we move forward.
    �

    There is a task force currently in a formative stage to research all the
    details and have something to bring to the board by spring - as this is
    one of those unique situations where we need to operate on world time as
    opposed to fair time! The task force is made up of a few elders - a few
    not even close to being elders - and is open to anyone interested in
    making this happen
    �

    We have a google group, and are using google docs to store documents for
    anyone in the group to review.
    �

    If anyone wants to get serious and learn a lot about LPFM - I urge a
    thorough read of 2 websites.
    �
    �

    I don't want to get too far into the weeds on this list, but there are
    strong reasons to go for Veneta and not Eugene - with or without the new
    rules.
    �

    Second - the most amazing site maintained by the most amazing people who
    are directly responsible for the rule changes and the FCC's soon to be
    enacted action, the Prometheus Project - < http://www.prometheusradio.org/>
    �

    Most, if not all questions anyone can think up are being addressed by
    the task force (we're all long time fair folks - we know how everyone
    thinks!) - we have both full proposal drafts as well as a brief synopsis
    on the google group.
    �

    To quickly acknowledge , if not answer some of the main questions that
    always come up -
    �

    Our first need will be for general Board endorsement - - so 'we' can
    speak on behalf of the fair -
    �

    Re money - the application is free - there will be an engineering cost,
    for which we may need to either seek board support (in the hundreds of
    dollars) - or work out a trade - I've got my SO if need me!
    �

    Re who's gonna run it? - We have at least 2 years to get that together
    - - but the committee will be set adrift to find its way - which
    includes - after some minimal loan to ourselves raising the funds to
    make this thing happen - so there will never ever ever be a drain on ocf
    resources - nada.
    �

    Won't this jeopardize the full power stations who broadcast from the fair?
    �

    Of course not! We are talking a 100 watt station, as opposed to 90,000
    watts!
    �

    Are the Eugene or Portland or Seattle daily papers threatened by the
    Fair Family news?!
    �

    Whereas the larger stations carry our content - stages, talks, whatever
    - our radio station would BE us - no intermediary - no filter...plus
    would operate year round - using the massive audio files we have
    accumulated over the decades, teaching people to use the equipment -
    fostering story telling and song writing and jokes and so forth.
    �

    Will it be difficult and challenging and prone to mis steps at every
    turn?..Of course - but they will be our challenges as a community.
    �

    Would certainly love to discuss any of this on this list - as well as
    talk/email anyone off list who wants to get plugged in and help make
    this happen...get oin the google group - and see what's happening.
    �

    We only have a few months to do a lot of work -
    �

    Peace n love n stuff
    �
    jim
    �

    I am (finally!) crafting an email for the discuss list - will send it
    around to this group before posting it.
    �
    �
    �
    �
    �
    �

    �
    Dear Jim;
    �

    It's happening. On November 30, the FCC will announce rules that
    community groups need to finally apply to start a community radio
    station. It�s been a twelve year fight to arrive at this moment, and
    together, we�ve won it.
    �

    But our biggest job is still ahead. As we lead the way towards the
    largest expansion of community radio in U.S. history, Prometheus will be
    helping hundreds of groups through the license application process.
    After years of building grassroots stations and working with the FCC, we

    Earlier this year, we asked you to "Take Action!" and tell the FCC that
    the public demands more opportunities for community radio. You responded
    with stunning numbers, and the FCC took notice. Your voices made the
    difference in creating space on the dial for communities all across the
    U.S. to have access to radio � some areas that haven�t had the
    opportunity for 30 years!
    �
    We�re now ready to move on to the next stage. To truly change the media

    landscape, stations need to be viable and sustainable. Prometheus has
    the skills and expertise, but we need your donation to make this vision
    a reality. The average cost of supporting groups through the
    application process is $1,500 per group and our goal is 1,000 new
    stations on the air. *_How much is a truly transformed media worth to
    you?_*
    �
    �
    Prometheus does a lot with a little, but we�ve got A LOT to do! This is

    *Prometheus Radio Project*
    P.O. Box 42158
    Philadelphia, PA 19101
    United States
    �
    �

    �
    .
    �

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