Fw: Hello fellow ZAPR's!

[Honeysuckle Landscape & Design]

                       

 

Hi Folks,

    Several things. 

    Most of the ZAPR committees have discontinued meeting.  We need a reinvigoration of efforts because we have yet to complete the jobs at hand.

   

    3 TASKS

 

    1. HWY 131 REFINEMENT PLAN- RESPONSE

    The Zone and Plan Review Committee is being asked to provide response to the  proposed changes/additions in the refinement plan.  This document is separate from the ONA response to the State Parks proposals that was reviewed at a 2007 ONA meeting.  The Hwy. 131 'technical memorandum' relates to proposed changes to Oceansides  Commercial Zone.  To  folks, the COMMERCIAL COMMITTEE, ROADS COMMITTEE and OTHERS offering input, please use the numbered lines in refering to the points you are making, locate at ONA web site, Hwy 131 study.  Richard has begun reviewing the Lighting Ordinance ammendment  in comparison to the lighting proposal ordinance he brought to the Feb. ONA meeting.  The eintire Hwy 131 document is up for a hearing at a county meeting in April, so it would be good to start rounding up some solid response now to bring to the ONA meeting.  Please share your input on the Oceanside Google Group site. 

  

    2.  OCEANSIDE GRADING ORDINANCE-CREATION

     As with the lighting ordinance proposal presented at the last ONA meeting, we have other community approved issues to consider as ordinances related to the survey.  Using the Bend Lighting Ordinance as reference is one example where resources exist that are available for us to tap into. We are looking at proposing  a grading ordinance based on the survey language that--  reviews existing Tillamook county ordinances, looks to Bend, Manzanita and other existing ordinances and/or  uses our own language to frame a proposal. We are looking to revive the RESIDENTIAL COMMITTEE and invite OTHERS to involve themselves in this process.  Please share your initital input on the Oceanside Google Group site.  

 

    3. 2ND HOME RENTAL- RESEARCH and REVIEWand PROPOSAL

        As L. Phipps stated at the Feb. ONA meeting it is  unclear at this time whether to consider this issue as a land use issue or a commercial issue.  Proposals will likely be considered as one for Oceanside and other unincorporated communities county wide.  But the effort starts here, or potentially in coordination with other communities.  The 2nd HOME COMMITTEE and OTHERS possibly the COMMERCIAL COMMITTEE will want to look into ordinances from other communities, Manzanita for example.  Again please share your input, whatever it may be on the Oceanside Google Group site.

 

          So, we ask all ZAPR members to step up and share your thoughts!

 

    ZAPR co-chairs  Kris Woolpert and Richard PowersO

    

[Honeysuckle Landscape & Design]

Hi Everyone,

    I'm resending this in hopes that there was some minor glitch in your not receiving.  Let's hope it goes through this time.    Kris

[Richard Powers]

Kris:
 I got it!

Looks good to me. Let’s hope we get some responses.
Richard

[Mary Flock]

Hi all,
 
Since Ron Young and I were the only 2 members of the Short Term Rental subcommitte, we merged with the Commercial subcomittee that I'm also on. 
 
The Commercial subcommittee has met several times for brainstorming. The combined Commercial/Short Term Rental subcommittee is meeting tomorrow to discuss the Hwy 131 proposed Commercial Code changes and Short Term Rentals.
 
On Short Term Rentals, since Oceanside is not incorporated, our plan is to review the Manzanita and Cannon Beach short term rental ordinances, and draft a model for a Tillamook County ordinance that Tillamook County would hopefully consider when they draft the actual ordinance. The model would include a reference to the Short Term Rental Advisory Committee report conclusion that each community (Oceanside, Netarts, etc.) would have input on specifics for their community. There should be something added to the Oceanside Residential Code about short term rentals once our subcommittee is finished and that something is voted on at the ONA, but would be dependent on Tillamook County having an ordinance.
 
Commercial/Short Term Rental subcomittee includes--Mary Flock, Ron Young, Sue Butler,Craig Swinford and
Nancy Rangila. We don't have a Chair, just an Organizer which is me since the meetings are at my condo in Portland during the week because I don't have a car. We could use some help if anyone wants to join us.
 
Mary Flock

PS-I don't do public speaking so don't ask me for a verbal report at the ONA. I'd rather be run over by a car again. I will do a written report on what the subcommittee agrees on as soon as I can after the meeting.

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Any chance we have a mini-session/update after ONA on Saturday/
Joanne

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[Richard Powers]

Hi,

    Some of us are free to meet and I’d be happy to do so.

Richard

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[Mary B. Flock]

Hi Richard and Kris,

 

Our committee met yesterday and here are our final recommendations. Let me know if you have questions.

 

Mary

 

[Mary B. Flock]

Kris and Richard,

 

I got this email from Sue and I have added this item to the Discussion section for (4)(c). An amended document is attached.

 

Mary F.

 

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Subject: Re: Commercial subcommittee Hwy 131 recommendations

 

Dear Mary, Nancy, Craig and Ron:

 

Regarding (4) STANDARDS (c)-Change to existing regulation (Lines 293-300), we may want to mention that the depth of the lots are quite shallow in the Oceanside commercial zone and requiring a 10 foot setback from the adjacent roadway with the highest functional classification (Pacific Ave.) would not, in some instances, leave space for a large enough structure to adequately house any viable commercial use.

 

Sue

 

[Mary B. Flock]

 

Kris and Richard,

 

Here are the Commercial ZAPR subcommittee proposed changes to Oceanside Commercial Code. These changes are in additional to the ones we recommended from the Hwy 131 proposed changes.

 

Nancy and I won’t be the next ONA, Sue is a maybe, but Ron said he would try to field your questions.

 

Mary

 

 

[Stephen Macartney]

Hi Folks,

After reading the Commercial Committee's recomendations I have a question about two items:

1.  The 24 ft heights recommendation and

2.  The 8000 sq ft limitation.

Where did these recommendations originate?  Do they reflect any input from the community outside of the personal views of some of the ZAPR committee (i.e. the community survey, etc.)?

Steve

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<ZAPR proposed changes to OCEANSIDE COMMERCIAL CODE.doc>

[Mary B. Flock]

Hi Steve,

 

The Commercial Committee felt that 24 feet on both sides of the street not just on the Oceanfront was more in keeping with the village atmosphere.

 

The existing Oceanside Commercial Code (4) (j) limits square feet to 8000 but the Commercial Committee recommended removing the exception for motels because trying to figure out how to address a mixed use commercial structure was too complicated.   

 

Mary

 

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[Stephen Macartney]

Hi Folks,

Is there a document that articulates what is meant by "village atmosphere" with enough clarity that it could inform zoning decisions and recommendations?  Has it recently been updated?  And how did we obtain the buy-in from the community about the definition of "village atmosphere?"  And finally, did the community agree that we want to maintain a "village atmosphere?"  I suspect we do, but I'm curious about how the community weighed in on the concept.

Thanks,

Steve

[Mary B. Flock]

Hi Steve,

 

I don’t think the Survey specifically addressed the “village atmosphere” although there were a number of write-in comments on several different questions to that effect.

 

The Oceanside Community Plan does emphasize the “village atmosphere”, but supposedly the reason the County ignored the Plan was because it wasn’t specific enough to be enforceable. One of the directives to the ZAPR subcommittees was to try and translate the concepts in the Plan (as well as the Survey responses) into specific ordinances.

 

The recommendations of ZAPR Commercial Committee should be on the agenda in a future ONA meeting. I’m not sure if any of the committee members will be available for questions at the June meeting, but I won’t be because I have out-of-town guests. In the meantime, if anyone has comments on our recommendations or additional recommendations for changing the Oceanside Commercial Code, feel free to email me or other members of the Commercial Committee. We would appreciate the help.

 

Mary

 

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Here are some excerpts from the Oceanside Community Plan:

 

1.0—Over time, Oceanside has evolved and grown without losing its “coastal village charm.” Over time, Oceanside has evolved and grown without losing its “coastal village charm.” In order to protect this ambiance while allowing growth and development to occur within Tillamook County regulations, specific policies are being introduced.

 

1.2—Every effort shall be made to preserve the “rustic coastal village atmosphere,” the natural resources, and the beauty of Oceanside for the benefit of residents, visitors and future generations.

 

4.18—Other signs shall be adequately regulated to retain a village appearance.

[Stephen Macartney]

Mary,

Thanks for your reply.  As part of the current effort will the community plan be updated?  I believe it is 10 or 15 years old and may or may not still reflect the opinions of the majority of the current residents and property owners.  And, in any case, could benefit from being refreshed.

I don't find anything in the community plan that would lead one to the conclusion that some commercial properties should have the 24ft heights limitation imposed or that certain types of businesses should or should not be exempted from the 8000sqft limitation.

Can you please help me make the connection between those recommendations and either the community plan or "village atmosphere?"

I do recommend that the ZAPR group refresh the community plan and validate community concurrence with the updated community plan.

Thanks for all your work.

Steve

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[Mary B. Flock]

Steve,

 

I don’t know the exact age of the Oceanside Community Plan and don’t know what the plan is as far as updating it, but that would be outside the scope of work for the Commercial Committee. You should raise this at the next ONA.

 

The Commercial Committee recommendations for changing the Oceanside Commercial Code should be discussed and voted on at an ONA meeting and hopefully more people will contribute additional recommendations.

 

Here’s a little more info on the 24 foot limitation and removing the motel exception:

1.The 24 foot limitation is already in place for Commercial oceanfront structures. Our Committee’s recommendation was to expand that to all of the Commercial zone structures. Oceanside is often referred to as  “The Village” and our Committee felt 35 foot Commercial structures don’t fit with the concept of a village.

2. Commercial structures under 4000 sq feet are already permitted unconditionally. Commercial structures up to 8000 sq feet are already permitted conditionally. Only motels were exempted from this 8000 square foot limitation, but there was no mention of how to deal with a mixed used structure such as one that is a motel, restaurant, and residential all in one.  Our Committee felt it was simpler to just eliminate the motel exception. Also 80.41% of respondents to Survey question # 16 indicated Oceanside should not have more motel/hotel development.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Mary

 

PS—Jud and I are headed to the airport shortly to meet my weekend guests and I don’t plan to check my email again till Tuesday next week when my guests leave.

[Walter Foster]

Steve -- My wife, Jan, and myself are not in Oceanside very often these days -- having been put off by the very negative nature of the Anchor proceedings in the last two years.  However, we are so thankful to you for looking at and trying to evaluate the vague statements often made by the various committees who are trying very hard to protect Oceanside.  These plans need to be on solid ground and we thank you for enunciating this.
Your neighbor,              Ted Foster

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Subject: [Oceanside Planning] Re: Recommended changes to Commercial Code

Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 16:14:06 -0700

[Judson Randall]

Steve, et al,

        To answer your question: "As part of the current effort will the community plan be updated?," you might recall that a couple of years ago, the association revived the Zone and Plan Review Committee and charged it to review the community plan and zoning ordinances, and make recommendations for the association to pass along to Tillamook County. The answer to your question is yes.

        The plan is 13 years old, having been adopted by Tillamook County in 1995.

        What comes of the current effort will be adopted by the association as a whole and recommended to Tillamook County. The Zone and Plan Review Committee will make its recommendation to the association.

                 Jud

At 04:14 PM 6/5/2008, Stephen Macartney wrote:

Mary,

Thanks for your reply.  As part of the current effort will the community plan be updated?  I believe it is 10 or 15 years old and may or may not still reflect the opinions of the majority of the current residents and property owners.  And, in any case, could benefit from being refreshed.

I don't find anything in the community plan that would lead one to the conclusion that some commercial properties should have the 24ft heights limitation imposed or that certain types of businesses should or should not be exempted from the 8000sqft limitation.

Can you please help me make the connection between those recommendations and either the community plan or "village atmosphere?"

I do recommend that the ZAPR group refresh the community plan and validate community concurrence with the updated community plan.

Thanks for all your work.

Steve

Sent from my iPhone

On Jun 5, 2008, at 2:05 PM, "Mary B. Flock" <mbf...@msn.com> wrote:

Hi Steve,

 

I don’t think the Survey specifically addressed the “village atmosphere†although there were a number of write-in comments on several different questions to that effect.

 

The Oceanside Community Plan does emphasize the “village atmosphere†, but supposedly the reason the County ignored the Plan was because it wasn’t specific enough to be enforceable. One of the directives to the ZAPR subcommittees was to try and translate the concepts in the Plan (as well as the Survey responses) into specific ordinances.

 

The recommendations of ZAPR Commercial Committee should be on the agenda in a future ONA meeting. I’m not sure if any of the committee members will be available for questions at the June meeting, but I won’t be because I have out-of-town guests. In the meantime, if anyone has comments on our recommendations or additional recommendations for changing the Oceanside Commercial Code, feel free to email me or other members of the Commercial Committee. We would appreciate the help.

 

Mary

 

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Here are some excerpts from the Oceanside Community Plan:

 

1.0—Over time, Oceanside has evolved and grown without losing its “coastal village charm.†Over time, Oceanside has evolved and grown without losing its “coastal village charm.†In order to protect this ambiance while allowing growth and development to occur within Tillamook County regulations, specific policies are being introduced.

 

1.2—Every effort sshall be made to preserve the “rustic coastal village atmosphere,†the natural resources, and the beauty of Oceanside for the benefit of residents, visitors and future generations.

 
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[Stephen Macartney]

Who is reviewing the plan?  Is that work complete? 

[Judson Randall]

Steve,

        The Zone and Plan Review Committee, chaired by Richard Powers and Kris Woolpert.  The information on it is on the ONA website. No, the work is not yet complete, because the committee was diverted by the county's Highway 131 Refinement Plan and, especially, Appendix F.  The Appendix F work will be completed, I hope, at Saturday's ONA meeting.  Then the review committee can resume its work.

                 Jud

[Stephen Macartney]

Jud,

I understand your point.  However if committees are using the original version of the community plan, rather than the soon to be updated version, to inform an update of zoning recommendations, isn't this putting the cart before the horse?

Steve

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[Judson Randall]

The idea is to review and recommend revisions to the plan and to review and recommend revisions to the zoning ordinances in that order.

        Jud

Hi Steve,

 

I don’t think the he Survey specifically addressed the “village atmosphere†althoughough there were a number of write-in comments on several different questions to that effect.

 

The Oceanside Community Plan does emphasize the “village atmosphere†, but supposedly dly the reason the County ignored the Plan was because it wasn’t specific enougough to be enforceable. One of the directives to the ZAPR subcommittees was to try and translate the concepts in the Plan (as well as the Survey responses) into specific ordinances.

 

The recommendations of ZAPR Commercial Committee should be on the agenda in a future ONA meeting. I‬™m not sure if any of the committee members will be available for questions at the June meeting, but I won’t be because I have out-of-to-town guests. In the meantime, if anyone has comments on our recommendations or additional recommendations for changing the Oceanside Commercial Code, feel free to email me or other members of the Commercial Committee. We would appreciate the help.

 

Mary

 

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Here are some excerpts from the Oceanside Community Plan:

 

1.0—Over time, Oceanside has eevolved and grown without losing its “coastal village charm.Ã.†Over time, Oceanside has evolved and grown without losing its “coasastal village charm.†In order to protect this ambiance while allowing growtth and development to occur within Tillamook County regulations, specific policies are being introduced.

 

1.2—Every effort sshall be madde to preserve the “rustic coastal village atmosphere,â†the natural resources, and the beauty of Oceanside for the benefit of residents, visitors and future generations.

 

4.18—Other signs shall be adeqquately regulated to retain a village appearance.

[Stephen Macartney]

Jud,

Who are the members of the (sub)committee reviewing and making recommendations to the community plan?  What is the status?  Please forward me whatever latest draft document exists of their work.

Thanks,

Steve

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[Judson Randall]

Steve,

        The membership has evolved since the initial appointments were made. Those are listed on the web site. Various subcommittees were formed, and I believe you were involved in at least one of them. Various volunteers have joined the effort as well.

        For a complete list and for any latest draft, I'd recommend you communicate with Richard and Kris. You might also check out the Highway 131 Appendix F document on the web site to see what ordinance change proposals have currently been made. That proposal is continuing to be revised, as you'll note when you get the minutes of Saturday's meeting.

        Cheers,

                 Jud

Hi Steve,

 

I don’t thinhink the he Survey specifically addressed the “village atmosphereââ¢â‚¬ althoughough there were a number of write-in comments on several different questions to that effect.

 

The Oceanside Community Plan does emphasize the “village atmosphere†, but but supposedly dly the reason the County ignored the Plan was because it wasn’t specificfic enougough to be enforceable. One of the directives to the ZAPR subcommittees was to try and translate the concepts in the Plan (as well as the Survey responses) into specific ordinances.

 

The recommendations of ZAPR Commercial Committee should be on the agenda in a future ONA meeting. I‬™m not sure if any of the committee members will be available for questions at the June meeting, but I won’t be because I haveave out-of-to-town guests. In the meantime, if anyone has comments on our recommendations or additional recommendations for changing the Oceanside Commercial Code, feel free to email me or other members of the Commercial Committee. We would appreciate the help.

 

Mary

 

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Here are some excerpts from the Oceanside Community Plan:

 

1.0—Over time, Oceanside has eeevolved and grown without losing its “coastal village chararm.Ã.†Over time, Oceanside has evolved and grown without losing its â€ÅÅ“coasastal village charm.†In order to protect this ambiance while allowingg growtth and development to occur within Tillamook County regulations, specific policies are being introduced.

 

1.2—Every effort sshall be maddde to preserve the “rustic coastal village atmosphere,e,â†the natural resources, and the beauty of Oceanside for the benefit of residents, visitors and future generations.

 

4.18—Other signs shall be adeqqquately regulated to retain a village appearance.

[Stephen Macartney]

Jud,

I checked the ONA website again and it still only reflects the original roster of volunteers.  And there is no committee assigned to review and update the community plan ("policies"). 

The apparent lack of current committee activity, per process outline as detailed on the ONA website, and the out of date info on the website is the reason I keep asking you the same question.  So I'll try again: what is the status of the community plan review and who is on that (sub)committee?

Thanks (and sorry to be such a pest).

Steve

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[Judson Randall]

Steve,

        Again, I recommend you direct your questions to Richard Powers and Kris Woolpert, who are the co-chairs of the Zone and Plan Review Committee.

        Thanks,

                 Jud

Hi Steve,

 

I donâ€ââ„¢t thinhink the he Survey specifically addressed the “village atatmosphereââ¢â‚¬ althoughouugh there were a number of write-in comments on several different questions to that effect.

 

The Oceanside Community Plan does emphasize the “village atmosphereÃÒ¢€ , but but supposedly dly the reason the County ignored the Plan was because it wasn‬™t specificfic enougough to be enforceable. One of the directives to the ZAPR subcommittees was to try and translate the concepts in the Plan (as well as the Survey responses) into specific ordinances.

 

The recommendations of ZAPR Commercial Committee should be on the agenda in a future ONA meeting. I‬™m m not sure if any of the committee members will be available for questions at the June meeting, but I won’t be be because I haveave out-of-to-town guests. In the meantime, if anyone has comments on our recommendations or additional recommendations for changing the Oceanside Commercial Code, feel free to email me or other members of the Commercial Committee. We would appreciate the help.

 

Mary

 

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Here are some excerpts from the Oceanside Community Plan:

 

1.0—Over time, Oceanside has eeevolved and grown without losing its â€ÅÅ“coastal village chararm.Ã.†Over time, Oceanside has evolved and grown without losing its â€Ã…Å“coasastal vvillage charm.†In order to protect this ambiance while allowingg growtth and development to occur within Tillamook County regulations, specific policies are being introduced.

 

1.2—Every effort sshall be madddde to preserve the “rustic coastal village a atmosphere,e,â†the natural resources, and the beauty of Oceanside for the benefit of residents, visitors and future generations.

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[Stephen Macartney]

Jud,

I've not yet, a couple of weeks later now, heard back from Kris or Richard.  Shall I simply assume that there is no (sub)committee, there has been no progress and that there is no updated community plan draft at all?

Steve

[Judson Randall]

Steve,

        I wouldn't assume anything. Kris' telephone number is 842-8305, and Richard's telephone number is 842-7247. Both are 503 area codes. I'd suggest that you call them if e-mail hasn't worked. There is a Zone and Plan Review Committee, which, as you could see in the June 7 minutes, is active.

        Cheers,

                          Jud

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