a tenth fiery flying (sp)roule.pdf (occupyportlandpoets@googlegroups.com)

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[Sam Lohmann]

Thanks for sharing this, Standard. The whole series, so far, is here http://afieryflyingroule.tumblr.com/. (for the curious) Do you know what the source of the appropriated old text is? Or who the editor is? I hope we'll get some equally interesting stuff going in Portland soon.

[Allison Cobb]

Oh! I wish Geoffrey O'Brien's essay had been in the Times instead of Hass's. But the Times won't let you say stuff like

"the administration indicates in the

strongest possible terms that it wants to execute that vision:

that the university is an enterprise for the extraction of profit

from its students."

Thanks, Standard, and Sam, and Helen!

Allison Cobb

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[Standard Schaefer]

Hi Allison, Sam, Helen, all,

Yes, I agree with Allison on the O'Brien essay, but I liked Hass' essay in the sense that emphasis is on the imagination of the grassroots, in this case, students' ingenuity.  Which I guess is as about as radical as I would expect from the TImes.   I actually have been lead to believe it was Geoffrey O'Brien, will investigate further however.

One of the things I like about this movement is the no compromise message put in a way I think a broad swath can swing with easily enough, and here is WS Merwin in  recent interview doing just that.  It so happens his approach resembles my own, thinking about imagination, in this case on why it is perhaps our best hope. 

http://www.yesmagazine.org/issues/new-livelihoods/w.s.-merwin-doing-the-impossible

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[Nicky Tiso]

Thanks for sharing that & dang! Reading O'Brien's spoken word piece here in Portland would be an empowering act. I like how intellectual/grounded the overall tone of that series is. Got a compelling Situationist flavor to it.    

Sam, re "getting equally interesting stuff going on here," got any ideas, bearing in mind I'll be at the IPRC Thursday nights/every other Sunday midday?  

For everybody, is there one day a week we're all free to meet up for an hour or so at least to basically do what we're doing here but in person? Around or before 7pm (GA time) at Pioneer Plaza? Er, what're your schedules like? This would also be a good occasion to network with other committees and stuff, be the neighborly poets we are... however I'm out of town all week ) : Not to mention, writing thru a GA, speaking as a collective body at one, or interviewing the cops as Sandy has expressed interest in doing would all be fair game during such a meet up.     

And while we're on the topic of police violence: http://www.thenation.com/article/164501/paramilitary-policing-seattle-occupy-wall-street 

- Nicky

[Nicky Tiso]

Also just got to plug my close friend Kate Robinson here whose poem (written during a collective reading of The Grand Piano), in opening itself up to a mixture of things outside it/her, really pairs nicely w/ the Spahr poem in 10th Fiery Flying Roule, and speaks to what I meant when I said writing thru a GA or some such collective happening where discourses intersect in beautiful unexpected ways: http://katerr.wordpress.com/2011/11/20/the-grand-piano-2/

[Sam Lohmann]

I like the idea of meeting up before the GA. Most weekday evenings are possible for me, though not this week. What works for others.

On Sun, Nov 20, 2011 at 10:04 PM, Nicky Tiso <nick...@gmail.com> wrote: