April stuff
Tom
There should certainly be enough content for an OPK journal this week after the Bank of America action. Jeff, would you like to slap one together, or shall I? I took minutes at the Sunday meeting so a newsletter would be possible but it's not something I like doing. The problem lately has not been people not taking minutes (Kyle and/or Brady always volunteer), rather that they don't get posted. Saying "Can someone else take minutes, because this person doesn't post them?" sounds a little harsh... what's the fix?
Hopefully there'll be some fruitful networking at the Rosendale event tonight. Craig, I'll let you know if I can find anyone who wants to write a blurb for the OHV newsletter.
As far as I know, the Facebook admins are now: Kyle, Brady, Stephen, Russell. I've been unable to figure out who runs the Occupy Wall Street Hudson Valley page. My assumption is Billiam von Roestenberg, but he hasn't responded to a message about it, so that may forever remain a mystery.
Blake has approved the use of Christ Church before the Sunday GA for filming the next segment of the video project. I've learned enough to handle the actual filming and editing, so no more delays. Just have to get the people there... I'll mail Katya and Spencer to make sure it's brought up at the Wednesday GA, and hopefully I'll be around for Friday's GA to push it myself. Jeff, do you have more names? Does anyone know the password for the "Occupy Poughkeepsie" YouTube account? If not, I'll just make a new account.
I was thinking about how there are an awful lot of activist groups with overlapping goals, and how it's a drain on manpower... and frankly, we've been terrible so far at building coalitions. There also may be a lot of people who are more interested in actions than in meetings and would prefer a streamlined way of hearing about stuff they can participate in. There's also the 99% Spring people to think about--how to use them as our foot soldiers and seduce them to the Progressive Side of the Force. Last Sunday's GA gave me the go-ahead to develop the idea of a big mailing list of local activists who could collectively be mailed about events from all these groups. Here's what I was envisioning:
- Groups would be contacted to gauge interest and to agree on a format.
- Once a group had submitted a certain number of emails (say, 10 or 15) they'd be able to send information about their events. (Occupy groups listed on the OHV site who have been in contact with us should perhaps be exempt from the limit, but still urged to submit as many emails as they can.)
- People would be encouraged to sign themselves up through other channels.
- Weekly digests would be sent out through a new Mailchimp account. Three weeks before events were scheduled a 100-200 word blurb would be included, to allow time for planning. The week before events there would be a briefer reminder. Contact info for further details about these events would be mandatory.
- Groups whose members all unsubscribed or who submitted multiple events that were later cancelled or substantially changed would get a stern talking-to.
- Monthly or more frequent events would not be included, except perhaps an initial notice.
Groups that came to mind:
- Community Voices Heard
- Real Majority Project
- ISO
- Dutchess Peace
- 99% Spring/MoveOn (how much damage could they do?)
- Working Families Party
- NYPIRG chapters at New Paltz and Purchase
- Other student groups
- Friendly unions
- and my mind blanked at this point.
Thoughts?
-Tom
Elaine Fernandez
You're totally right on when you talk about overlapping goals, and all the issues raised at the Spring 99% training were the same raised at Occupy meetings. I will be posting the video on April 29, and you'll be able to see what they're doing.
This morning I went to film the post office action in Kingston. There was a mix of Occupy and 99% Spring people there, and some some from both organizations. One of the members of Occupy New Paltz spoke at the event, and she mentioned the perceived tension between Occupy and MoveOn, and I think she was right when she said that the perceived division is exactly what the right wants - to divide the Left/Progressive/Occupy. She also said this is a time for all of us 99%ers - and we are all part of the 99% - to unify and support each other. United we stand, divided we fall.
In solidarity,
Elaine
Jeff Green
> This morning I went to film the post office action in Kingston. There was a mix of Occupy and 99% Spring people there, and some some from both organizations. One of the members of Occupy New Paltz spoke at the event, and she mentioned the perceived tension between Occupy and MoveOn, and I think she was right when she said that the perceived division is exactly what the right wants - to divide the Left/Progressive/Occupy. She also said this is a time for all of us 99%ers - and we are all part of the 99% - to unify and support each other. United we stand, divided we fall.
Just let me know when the Obama (and local Democrat) placards begin to
show up. If this labor/Democrat/WFP backed organization can keep their
politics out of it I'll stay quiet. But the returns from people who
attended other 'training' sessions and reports I've read posted online
say it's just that, Democrats. While I'd love to think they were
genuine, I've been around and involved in politics for too long not to
be wary!
Jeff
Elaine Fernandez
While we may not have everything in common with each other - meaning people, groups, etc. - there are absolutely common causes most of us share and it seems really clear that we all want similar if not the same kind of changes. There are just different ways of getting there, and we can support each others in areas where we agree.
Elaine Fernandez
With that same spirit, I would like to suggest that you attend a local 99% Spring meeting and/or training. Things always look a lot different when we see them for ourselves.
On Apr 17, 2012, at 4:27 PM, Jeff Green wrote:
Jeff Green
> Given that a bunch of stuff is happening, I think we should revive the
> Saturday Mumble chats.
>
> There should certainly be enough content for an OPK journal this week
> after the Bank of America action. Jeff, would you like to slap one
> together, or shall I? I took minutes at the Sunday meeting so a
> newsletter would be possible but it's not something I like doing. The
> problem
If someone will get me copy I'll be happy to get things moving again
with the newsletter.
> lately has not been people not taking minutes (Kyle and/or Brady
> always volunteer), rather that they don't get posted. Saying "Can
> someone else take minutes, because this person doesn't post them?"
> sounds a little harsh... what's the fix?
By not allowing the person who volunteered to do so, to do so anymore.
>
> Hopefully there'll be some fruitful networking at the Rosendale event
> tonight. Craig, I'll let you know if I can find anyone who wants to
> write a blurb for the OHV newsletter.
>
> As far as I know, the Facebook admins are now: Kyle, Brady, Stephen,
> Russell. I've been unable to figure out who runs the Occupy Wall
> Street Hudson Valley page. My assumption is Billiam von Roestenberg,
> but he hasn't responded to a message about it, so that may forever
> remain a mystery.
I thought there were others who had access. Norm? Matt? Rich Hutnick?
>
> Blake has approved the use of Christ Church before the Sunday GA for
> filming the next segment of the video project. I've learned enough to
> handle the actual filming and editing, so no more delays. Just have to
> get the people there... I'll mail Katya and Spencer to make sure it's
> brought up at the Wednesday GA, and hopefully I'll be around for
> Friday's GA to push it myself. Jeff, do you have more names? Does
> anyone know the password for the "Occupy Poughkeepsie" YouTube
> account? If not, I'll just make a new account.
Say 5PM on Sunday? If this is a go let me know and I'll report the
instruction set so people are all on the same page. Wherever we shoot in
there we're going to need portable lights of some sort and, of course, a
quiet space. If you watch the first round you'll see that those who came
prepared did well and those who did not spend a lot of time talking in
circles.
> I was thinking about how there are an awful lot of activist groups
> with overlapping goals, and how it's a drain on manpower... and
> frankly, we've been terrible so far at building coalitions. There also
> may be a lot of people who are more interested in actions than in
> meetings and
We've been good at coalition building but bad at following through with
them. Few want to take the responsibility of moving them forward and it
may be due to a lack of skills, self-confidence or, we just have too
many followers and too few leaders.
> would prefer a streamlined way of hearing about stuff they can
> participate in. There's also the 99% Spring people to think about--how
> to use them as our foot soldiers and seduce them to the Progressive
> Side of the Force. Last Sunday's GA gave me the go-ahead to develop
> the idea of a big mailing list of local activists who could
> collectively be mailed about events from all these groups. Here's what
> I was envisioning:
> - Groups would be contacted to gauge interest and to agree on a format.
> - Once a group had submitted a certain number of emails (say, 10 or
> 15) they'd be able to send information about their events. (Occupy
> groups listed on the OHV site who have been in contact with us should
> perhaps be exempt from the limit, but still urged to submit as many
> emails as they can.)
> - People would be encouraged to sign themselves up through other channels.
> - Weekly digests would be sent out through a new Mailchimp account.
> Three weeks before events were scheduled a 100-200 word blurb would be
> included, to allow time for planning. The week before events there
> would be a briefer reminder. Contact info for further details about
> these events would be mandatory.
> - Groups whose members all unsubscribed or who submitted multiple
> events that were later cancelled or substantially changed would get a
> stern talking-to.
> - Monthly or more frequent events would not be included, except
> perhaps an initial notice.
Actually, I thought that was the point of the OHV monthly newsletter and
the decision to open the OPK weekly newsletter to outside events. Seeing
that we've already a couple hundred names on the OPK distribution list
at MailChimp it seems a natural to simply add additional ones.
Jeff
Tom Tildrum
Say 5PM on Sunday? If this is a go let me know and I'll report the instruction set so people are all on the same page. Wherever we shoot in there we're going to need portable lights of some sort and, of course, a quiet space. If you watch the first round you'll see that those who came prepared did well and those who did not spend a lot of time talking in circles.
Actually, I thought that was the point of the OHV monthly newsletter and the decision to open the OPK weekly newsletter to outside events. Seeing that we've already a couple hundred names on the OPK distribution list at MailChimp it seems a natural to simply add additional ones.
-Tom