I offered as a default as this was forwarded by Chris is NYC, would someone else like to take this interview.. if so I can back out, or else perhaps mulitple people taking part?

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Christopher Wahmhoff

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Nov 30, 2011, 8:02:33 PM11/30/11
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Hello,

I'm Hannah Beeman, a student at Western Michigan University and I'm
shooting a short (2 minute) PSA for a class project within the next
week or so. I've chosen to make a PSA about the Occupy movement and
was wondering if anyone in the Occupy Kalamazoo movement would be
interested in participating. It would feature statements from Occupy
participants, stating their reasons for participating or why they feel
the Occupy movement is important.

If anyone would like to be in a short video, or prepare a short audio-
only statement, I would love their participation. Anyone interested
can contact me at any of the information listed below. Thanks!

Hannah Beeman
hannah....@wmich.edu
(517) 294-4262

Crystal Elizabeth Kohagen

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Dec 3, 2011, 4:19:26 PM12/3/11
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Here is the minutes from the last GA. I will post them on wordpress but I don't have access to the facebook page so someone else will have to post them there. Also it was decided that a general action in the Bronson Park every Sunday from 10-2pm should be posted as a weekly event on the fb page.

As far as the ham radio thing goes, you should bring it up at the next meeting. There are a couple people I think might be interested in doing that, specifically maybe James since he is already doing a lot of stuff like that though I am not sure if he knows how to use a ham radio or not.

I would like to put a newbie sheet together. Very basic with Dan's statement, basic run-down of GA's, hand signals and what-not as well as our links, e-mail, meeting places/times and the work groups with a short description so new people can dive in and get into work groups where their skills are best utilized, as well as a detachable section for their information and what work groups they'd be interested in. So far for work groups I have music, legal, eco-village, PR/media, education... am I missing any? Also I saw some facitilitation stuff handed out at some of the earlier meetings does anyone have links to that information, just so I don't have to hunt it down. That would be nice.

Also here are the contacts of the new people at the last meeting.
Louis Stocking 269 594 4578 louiss...@cmail.com
Shyloh Vanderklay 269 348 2546 shyloh.c....@wmich.edu
Will Roldan 269 348 6027 will_...@yahoo.com

The nvc.ga link didn't work, could you send me some links for the PTSD outreach also Chris' link or page or whatever once you get it.

Rick attended the Farmer's Dinner and I talked to him somewhat about the house situation Kris mentioned in the meeting. Can you send me what you have so far as far as that goes? Also it sounded like there will need to be some legal counseling and I was wondering if there was anything specific we need to find out about that.

Also there will be a really really free market, I got a handout at the Farmer's dinner and put it in the minutes it is next thursday so we won't be able to discuss it at the next ga but I would like the event to be posted on the facebook page if possible.
"What: Really Really Free Market: Holiday Addition
When: Thursday, Dec 8th from 11-5pm
Where: Room 105 BHC

A RRFM is a community even where you can bring what you no longer use and take what you will. Bring stuff, take stuff, or both! No money, just community. Come and give and get presents from/for your friends and family! Holiday things and winter wear welcome."

I've been thinking about the animal shelter thing a bit. I think scheduling might be irrelevant since I don't really see more than a couple of us doing it a week or any given time, so maybe what we should focus on is the shelters themselves or the people running them and consider the kind of activism or events they do and use that information to pick one, like I am sure some of them probably have pet parades and fundraisers or maybe a no-kill shelter might be preferable, just criteria like that. I was also thinking that perhaps we should have some t-shirts made with "occupy kalamazoo" on them, so when we do volunteering like this it can be obvious we are doing it as part of the movement and not as individuals. Shirts would be pretty cheap to make- dye and decal and I've done it before, the only problem with that is the decals peel off faster than if you took it to one of the print shops near campus and had them do the lettering. I figure it would probably be more expensive, but I haven't looked into it. I was curious about any thoughts on it, especially how many and the usefulness of it.

~Crystal

OKGAminutesdec1.docx

Christopher Wahmhoff

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Dec 4, 2011, 12:51:48 PM12/4/11
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Weeeeeeeeeeeee .... ok just got a chance to get back to you.. The
proposal was past last night and 12 occupy/ affinity groups are all
ready standing in solidarity and interoccpu.org is making a page on
there website for it !!! Not sure if anyone watched the live stream
but kalamazoo was suggested to host ... Iguess they really want a
west side city to host so we need to bring that up to GA.. . .ok let
me answer before I forget what I'm doing lol..

- groups: interoccupy, and outreach are the only other 2 I know of..

- Animal shelter I agree... just easier, and we can see if there is
something cool to do with them getting to know them :) humaine society
I know a bit, and allegan county shelters but not in Kazoo

- Newbie sheet sounds awesome!!!! Love it, if you want to take lead ..
awesome :).. pertaining to this interoccupy.org is building a kind of
site map or tool box for related to making these and press releases..

- Ham radio.. lol is a wierd story.. Dude's name is Nathan fancy, he
is part of an affinty group that Occupy detroit is having.. Something?
Occupy detroit went to interoccupy.org, and also the NVC program at
OWS. sent 2 people from new york, to address this issue and then. I
also was at the detroit GA per request sent to interoccupy.. I
specificlly did not get inot the subject because I was only going to
facilitate if they wanted to talk out whatever the issue is they
have.. soooo .. lol his name is nathan Fancy.. I have him as a friend
on FB.. I personally just gave enough though in what I felt like was
never my buisness in the 1st place.. I will just offer it to anyone
interested and just give this little fyi.. the whole thing hurts my
head

- About the dinener you mentioned can post it and will as soon as I'm
done writting you :).. but this leads me to a question to ask.. Me and
Dan are the only 2 admins now.. .Would you like to be added as an
admin? probably also adding Lee.. Dan is travelling.. it sounds liek
there is a very good chance I am going to be travelling much more
frequently.. and me and dan would both feel better with more people
being admins :) so let me know what you think

On Dec 3, 4:19 pm, Crystal Elizabeth Kohagen


<crystal.e.koha...@wmich.edu> wrote:
> Here is the minutes from the last GA. I will post them on wordpress but I don't have access to the facebook page so someone else will have to post them there. Also it was decided that a general action in the Bronson Park every Sunday from 10-2pm should be posted as a weekly event on the fb page.
>
> As far as the ham radio thing goes, you should bring it up at the next meeting. There are a couple people I think might be interested in doing that, specifically maybe James since he is already doing a lot of stuff like that though I am not sure if he knows how to use a ham radio or not.
>
> I would like to put a newbie sheet together. Very basic with Dan's statement, basic run-down of GA's, hand signals and what-not as well as our links, e-mail, meeting places/times and the work groups with a short description so new people can dive in and get into work groups where their skills are best utilized, as well as a detachable section for their information and what work groups they'd be interested in. So far for work groups I have music, legal, eco-village, PR/media, education... am I missing any? Also I saw some facitilitation stuff handed out at some of the earlier meetings does anyone have links to that information, just so I don't have to hunt it down. That would be nice.
>
> Also here are the contacts of the new people at the last meeting.

> Louis Stocking 269 594 4578 louisstock...@cmail.com
> Shyloh Vanderklay 269 348 2546 shyloh.c.vanderk...@wmich.edu
> Will Roldan 269 348 6027 will_rol...@yahoo.com


>
> The nvc.ga link didn't work, could you send me some links for the PTSD outreach also Chris' link or page or whatever once you get it.
>
> Rick attended the Farmer's Dinner and I talked to him somewhat about the house situation Kris mentioned in the meeting. Can you send me what you have so far as far as that goes? Also it sounded like there will need to be some legal counseling and I was wondering if there was anything specific we need to find out about that.
>
> Also there will be a really really free market, I got a handout at the Farmer's dinner and put it in the minutes it is next thursday so we won't be able to discuss it at the next ga but I would like the event to be posted on the facebook page if possible.
> "What: Really Really Free Market: Holiday Addition
> When: Thursday, Dec 8th from 11-5pm
> Where: Room 105 BHC
>
> A RRFM is a community even where you can bring what you no longer use and take what you will. Bring stuff, take stuff, or both! No money, just community. Come and give and get presents from/for your friends and family! Holiday things and winter wear welcome."
>
> I've been thinking about the animal shelter thing a bit. I think scheduling might be irrelevant since I don't really see more than a couple of us doing it a week or any given time, so maybe what we should focus on is the shelters themselves or the people running them and consider the kind of activism or events they do and use that information to pick one, like I am sure some of them probably have pet parades and fundraisers or maybe a no-kill shelter might be preferable, just criteria like that. I was also thinking that perhaps we should have some t-shirts made with "occupy kalamazoo" on them, so when we do volunteering like this it can be obvious we are doing it as part of the movement and not as individuals. Shirts would be pretty cheap to make- dye and decal and I've done it before, the only problem with that is the decals peel off faster than if you took it to one of the print shops near campus and had them do the lettering. I figure it would probably be more expensive, but I haven't looked into it. I was curious about any thoughts on it, especially how many and the usefulness of it.
>
> ~Crystal
>

>  OKGAminutesdec1.docx
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Christopher Wahmhoff

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Dec 4, 2011, 12:54:11 PM12/4/11
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ahhh forgot for the calls and the NVC link... here is the conversation
so far about the help lines


http://www.nycga.net/groups/mediation-55050275/

also including the conversation we are at for forming the lines so you
guys know what I'm talking about... sounds like it's on hold until the
8th


Christopher Wahmhoff Dec 2 (1 day ago)
Also to you guys I have a thread going I would like you to see...
there is an...
Christopher Wahmhoff

Dec 2 (1 day ago)

to Jesse
ok yeah.. I did there is the Lindsey werbecky lady who is also doing a
support line and wanted to see what everyones temp is about seeing if
she would also like to network??


On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 4:25 PM, Christopher Wahmhoff
<occu...@gmail.com> wrote:


Also to you guys I have a thread going I would like you to see...
there is an affinity group in Detroit that seems to be breaking the
group.. People have written interoccupy.org about help previously...
but the groups seem divided about some kind of donation.. from my
previous training I have tried not to know anything about the story
until both sides are interested to to discuss it .. The affinity side
has expressed an interest in talking.. I am awaiting responce from
the other side which from what I have understood I have contacted
lol..

we have a regional meeting in michigan tommarrow , and this is
how I was made aware of all of this.. and wanted to I guess 1st before
anything else see if you guys have dealt with this issue and how you
have addressed it if so.. done this in person.. I feel confident in
the communication.. but diffrent set of realities with this and just
want to know where all the philosophies of something like this fall in
regards to implemintation ? hehehehe I will post 1 more topic if I
haven't yet


On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Christopher Wahmhoff
<occu...@gmail.com> wrote:

hey jesse absolutly.. let me know how to reach you and I
should also be free after 6pm EST


On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 8:53 AM, Jesse Wiens
<listening...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi Chris,

This sounds like a really useful contribution - perhaps we
should touch base by phone to see how we can best integrate your
experience with the Nonviolent Communication Support Line for OWS?
I'm free most days after 6pm ET.

Jesse

On 11/29/11 10:46 PM, occu...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Jesse, I'm not sure if I just sent an email or
not because my computer kinda went batty.. I am very very interested
in assisting and donating my time. I am not sure what you need for
requirements but I have 15 years of mental health and social work. I
have been trained in multiple deescalation philosophies Including
MANDT, and Interventions 1-4.. I love doing outreach and would feel
honored to be supporting Occupies in such a way.. I would be very
willing to do any kind of assistance of either programs.. :)

Chris Wahmhoff
269-217-6600
Occu...@gmail.com

On , Jesse Wiens <listening...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Michael,
>
>
>
> I'm working on increasing our numbers of volunteers
on the NVC
> Support Line, to handle the increased capacity - let
me know if this
> connection with Interoccupy is for real, so that I
can include that
> in our appeal for more volunteers. I think it would
mean something
> to our prospective volunteers to know that there is
a real need for
> increased capacity.
>
>
>
> Thanks-
>
> Jesse
>
>
>
>
>
> On 11/29/11 9:24 PM, Catherine Cadden wrote:
>
>
> Hey All,
>
>
>
> I am adding Jesse to this email as he is very
involved in the
> hotline. I’d love to have a dialogue and also
invite Suzanne
> Jones who has been very involved on the hotline and
attending
> several of the interoccupy calls.
>
>
>
> Unfortunately, Jesse and I will not be available for
a call
> until after Dec. 8.
>
>
>
> Love,
>
> Catherine
>
>
>
> PS - MICHAEL – YOU ROCK!!! When I see/hear/read what
you bring
> to this world in relation t inspiring and connecting
people I
> feel so completely heartfull because it gives so
much to my
> sense of community, shared understanding, hope, and
peace in
> the world!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
>
> On 11/29/11 4:23 PM, "Michael Badger"
> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> Chris, Suzanne, Catherine,
>
>
>
> I'm putting the three of you in touch with each
other,
> prompted by Chris' email below. Chris has been
working with
> me and others on building the interoccupy network -
which
> provides channels of communication between
occupations. We
> host multiple weekly conference calls, and have a
website at
> http://interoccupy.org.
> Suzanne is with mediation/NVC at OWS and Catherine
initiated
> the empathy hotline.
>
>
>
> Chris just went on a road trip to occupations and
saw a
> clear need for deescalation and empathy/NVC work at
many of
> them. I'm thinking that connecting InterOccupy and
the
> Empathy hotline could be a powerful thing to do. It
could
> also mean a lot more people calling the empathy
hotline, so
> I want to make sure that it would be ok to handle
greater
> volume. I know Chris has some ideas of ways we
could use
> interoccupy to support people.
>
>
>
> Anyway, just opening the dialogue here.
>
>
>
> Best to all!
>
>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>
> From: Movement Colorado
>
>
> Date: Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 3:17 PM
>
> Subject: Re: [IO Call Planning] Would like to
consider a new
> call??
>
> To: occupycal...@googlegroups.com
>
>
>
>
>
> wow, what a great resource. promoting it NOW!
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 10:46 AM, Michael Badger
> wrote:
>
>
> Hi Chris,
>
>
>
> I'm not sure if you are aware but there is a 24 hour
> de-escalation and empathy hotline for Occupy. Also,
we
> have a mediation and NVC group that helps with
> de-escalation. Here is their page:
http://www.nycga.net/groups/mediation-55050275/
>
>
>
> Maybe contact them to work out something?
>
>
>
> Michael
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 29, 2011 at 12:31 PM, Hassab Gebremedhin
> wrote:
>
>
> twinkle for support
>
>
>
> From: Christopher Wahmhoff
>
>
> To: OccupyCallPlanning
> googlegroups.com>
>
> Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2011 12:19 PM
>
> Subject: [IO Call Planning] Would like to
> consider a new call??
>
>
>
> hehehe gonna be on the call today at 2pm.. just got
back
> from OWS last
>
> night and got some sleep... and now I would like to
get
> some work
>
> done :)
>
>
>
> Before anything else my bad to you guys in Phili,
> Pittsburgh, and
>
> youngstown.. Just didn't have time to make it..
>
>
>
> However to the people I did get to see including
OWS..
> sights with
>
> encampments had 2 large stresses that kept comming
up..
>
>
>
> Over and over people would start discussing a
subject
> and it would
>
> turn into a testimony.. A lot of people were looking
to
> vent.. and a
>
> lot of sites dealing with Homeless do not have
either
> proper.. or any
>
> training for de-escilation.. I have several years of
> training in
>
> mental health and de-escilation, as we'll as
> counseling. I think it
>
> could be a very very useful tool to use these phone
> lines to give
>
> people a chance, to make a call some night or when
ever
> for people to
>
> just get there struggles off there chest. .. I am
also
> writing MANDT,
>
> which is out of the 4 best intervention mechanisms
the
> best I
>
> believe.. I would like to start offering some
support
> service and I
>
> know we are about communication but I want to get a
temp
> check because
>
> I feel this is very very important.. OWS has had
> De-escilation
>
> training installed of some kind, but no one could
tell
> me which one..
>
> and they were it.. most security or peace keeping
had no
> idea what I
>
> meant.. and with the mental illness dealing with and
> supporting that
>
> comes with caring for homeless as we'll as vet,s and
> shell shock from
>
> raids and evictions .. I literally feel the need for
> something like
>
> this is Parimount, However I love the more We.. then
me
> so I wanted to
>
> get a temp check.. thanks guys and phili.. I still
owe
> you a bells
>
> hehehehe
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Arial">
>
>
>
>
>
> Arial">
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

On Dec 3, 4:19 pm, Crystal Elizabeth Kohagen
<crystal.e.koha...@wmich.edu> wrote:

> Here is the minutes from the last GA. I will post them on wordpress but I don't have access to the facebook page so someone else will have to post them there. Also it was decided that a general action in the Bronson Park every Sunday from 10-2pm should be posted as a weekly event on the fb page.
>
> As far as the ham radio thing goes, you should bring it up at the next meeting. There are a couple people I think might be interested in doing that, specifically maybe James since he is already doing a lot of stuff like that though I am not sure if he knows how to use a ham radio or not.
>
> I would like to put a newbie sheet together. Very basic with Dan's statement, basic run-down of GA's, hand signals and what-not as well as our links, e-mail, meeting places/times and the work groups with a short description so new people can dive in and get into work groups where their skills are best utilized, as well as a detachable section for their information and what work groups they'd be interested in. So far for work groups I have music, legal, eco-village, PR/media, education... am I missing any? Also I saw some facitilitation stuff handed out at some of the earlier meetings does anyone have links to that information, just so I don't have to hunt it down. That would be nice.
>
> Also here are the contacts of the new people at the last meeting.

> Louis Stocking 269 594 4578 louisstock...@cmail.com
> Shyloh Vanderklay 269 348 2546 shyloh.c.vanderk...@wmich.edu
> Will Roldan 269 348 6027 will_rol...@yahoo.com


>
> The nvc.ga link didn't work, could you send me some links for the PTSD outreach also Chris' link or page or whatever once you get it.
>
> Rick attended the Farmer's Dinner and I talked to him somewhat about the house situation Kris mentioned in the meeting. Can you send me what you have so far as far as that goes? Also it sounded like there will need to be some legal counseling and I was wondering if there was anything specific we need to find out about that.
>
> Also there will be a really really free market, I got a handout at the Farmer's dinner and put it in the minutes it is next thursday so we won't be able to discuss it at the next ga but I would like the event to be posted on the facebook page if possible.
> "What: Really Really Free Market: Holiday Addition
> When: Thursday, Dec 8th from 11-5pm
> Where: Room 105 BHC
>
> A RRFM is a community even where you can bring what you no longer use and take what you will. Bring stuff, take stuff, or both! No money, just community. Come and give and get presents from/for your friends and family! Holiday things and winter wear welcome."
>
> I've been thinking about the animal shelter thing a bit. I think scheduling might be irrelevant since I don't really see more than a couple of us doing it a week or any given time, so maybe what we should focus on is the shelters themselves or the people running them and consider the kind of activism or events they do and use that information to pick one, like I am sure some of them probably have pet parades and fundraisers or maybe a no-kill shelter might be preferable, just criteria like that. I was also thinking that perhaps we should have some t-shirts made with "occupy kalamazoo" on them, so when we do volunteering like this it can be obvious we are doing it as part of the movement and not as individuals. Shirts would be pretty cheap to make- dye and decal and I've done it before, the only problem with that is the decals peel off faster than if you took it to one of the print shops near campus and had them do the lettering. I figure it would probably be more expensive, but I haven't looked into it. I was curious about any thoughts on it, especially how many and the usefulness of it.
>
> ~Crystal
>

>  OKGAminutesdec1.docx
> 22KViewDownload

Jen Brown

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chris..

Sometime ago (in the beginning) i was a page admin as well, but left when others were posting for the group their own personal opinions etc...just out of curiousity...was the administration of the page relinquished by others?

j.
--
What the caterpillar calls the end of the world, the master calls a butterfly.- Richard Bach

occu...@gmail.com

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we'll jason added added me a while back.. I'm honestly not sure what happened with him.. He left and then was upset about lack of action.. Me and him talked about it on Fb.. I don't know where the line of confidentialty would fall but I mean I have the conversation and personally don't mind posting it.. I don't know how that works in respect for jason... I want to not do wrong by him.. but since we are about transparency I would feel cool with posting... so maybe some kind of consenseus lol I guess?

About the personal opinions.. If I did, I promise i did so not realizing that I was doing it.. Been trying to be really mindful of this and try to think it out .. so please let me know anyone if there is ever something problematic.. perhaps as a group we should consider some kind of sence of parameters?

occu...@gmail.com

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also on a personal note .. I cannot get myself off as admin to post on the page.. I try to switch it but it doens't seem to work I have spoke to dan about it

Crystal Elizabeth Kohagen

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yeah, I wouldn't mind being an admin, I can easily post the stuff at the same time at both sites so yeah no problem. Also, do you know who is checking the occup...@gmail.com?

Do you want to split the list of shelters to scope them out? Is there anything specifically we must look for? Personally, that they support occupy (which I mean rather liberally, occupy friendly is good enough, maybe willing to hang our posters for events or something) and that they participate in some kind of activism is most important to me as far as criteria.

Yeah. It will be pretty easy to put together. I just need to stick some facilitation stuff in there. It will probably take me a couple weeks to be done with it though because I have finals right now. I will also go through the links and conversations you sent about Outreach and try to summarize it down and post it. but again it's gonna take a minute for me to get to it.

I don't really think Kalamazoo should host. Carl Levin doesn't even have an office here. He does have one in Grand Rapids, that's really the only west side city besides Traverse City...

Gerald R. Ford Federal Building, Suite 720
110 Michigan Street, NW
Grand Rapids, MI 49503-2313
Phone (616) 456-2531
Fax (616) 456-5147

Kalamazoo co-hosting it with Grand Rapids or offering Grand Rapids additional support sounds a better way to go.

Crystal

----- Original Message -----,> From: "Christopher Wahmhoff" <occu...@gmail.com>
> To: "occupykalamazooprteam" <occupykala...@googlegroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, December 4, 2011 12:51:48 PM
> Subject: Re: Minutes and Other things

Christopher Wahmhoff

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hehehe hosting was for a regional GA ... not the levin action ;) there is a 12 occupy working group doing the specifics right now.. the action is going to be on dec 14th for sure..   what we are discussing is an open interface action.. meaning there were be multiple plateforms of actions.. this is known as a blizzard strategy..  With very clear cummunication and unanimous approval last night that very clear lines of violence, and anything .. i guess harder.. then refusing to move or sit.. is the aggresive limit. . .other then that, creative empowerment is encouraged ..

The regional GA thing was actually kind of asked at me and lee.. but there is no decision of anykind the next regional meeting is in detroit on the 15th and if we like the idea and figure that out then, also going to check about a van or something so more people can go without needing the vehicle part

Christopher Wahmhoff

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for the outreach I just posted so you guys knew how it was going.. Nothing is really official just all of us are trying to figure it out .. but some of the people doing it can't pick back up until dec 8th

Dan Barr

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Ok I'm back in town. Spent some time in Chicago with their occupy
movement.

As far as the adminship of the page, yes, it is only Chris and I now.
We do need someone else as we both will be traveling a fair bit. I
have Chicago again, New York, DC, San Francisco, LA and Seattle
planned for the nearish future, Dont need to go into specifics as to
why and how Jason left, just leave it as he left.

Get me the info for clothing drive and other community building
actions we have and I will have the press releases set up. its mostly
just fill in the blanks with the program i have, just need the final
info.

Kazoo hosting when Levin does not have an office here is bad. Pass it
to GR IMO.

Newbie sheet...GREAT IDEA! let me know if i can help in any way.

Lets get all of our housekeeping and planning done as much as possible
while the winter is here so we can come out strong and ready to go in
spring.

On Dec 4, 3:44 pm, Christopher Wahmhoff <occupy...@gmail.com> wrote:
> for the outreach I just posted so you guys knew how it was going.. Nothing
> is really official just all of us are trying to figure it out .. but some
> of the people doing it can't pick back up until dec 8th
>

> On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 3:42 PM, Christopher Wahmhoff <occupy...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > hehehe hosting was for a regional GA ... not the levin action ;) there is
> > a 12 occupy working group doing the specifics right now.. the action is
> > going to be on dec 14th for sure..   what we are discussing is an open
> > interface action.. meaning there were be multiple plateforms of actions..
> > this is known as a blizzard strategy..  With very clear cummunication and
> > unanimous approval last night that very clear lines of violence, and
> > anything .. i guess harder.. then refusing to move or sit.. is the
> > aggresive limit. . .other then that, creative empowerment is encouraged ..
>
> > The regional GA thing was actually kind of asked at me and lee.. but there
> > is no decision of anykind the next regional meeting is in detroit on the
> > 15th and if we like the idea and figure that out then, also going to check
> > about a van or something so more people can go without needing the vehicle
> > part
>
> > On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Crystal Elizabeth Kohagen <
> > crystal.e.koha...@wmich.edu> wrote:
>
> >> yeah, I wouldn't mind being an admin, I can easily post the stuff at the
> >> same time at both sites so yeah no problem. Also, do you know who is

> >> checking the occupyk...@gmail.com?


>
> >> Do you want to split the list of shelters to scope them out? Is there
> >> anything specifically we must look for? Personally, that they support
> >> occupy (which I mean rather liberally, occupy friendly is good enough,
> >> maybe willing to hang our posters for events or something) and that they
> >> participate in some kind of activism is most important to me as far as
> >> criteria.
>
> >> Yeah. It will be pretty easy to put together. I just need to stick some
> >> facilitation stuff in there. It will probably take me a couple weeks to be
> >> done with it though because I have finals right now. I will also go through
> >> the links and conversations you sent about Outreach and try to summarize it
> >> down and post it. but again it's gonna take a minute for me to get to it.
>
> >> I don't really think Kalamazoo should host. Carl Levin doesn't even have
> >> an office here. He does have one in Grand Rapids, that's really the only
> >> west side city besides Traverse City...
>
> >> Gerald R. Ford Federal Building, Suite 720
> >> 110 Michigan Street, NW
> >> Grand Rapids, MI 49503-2313
> >> Phone (616) 456-2531
> >> Fax (616) 456-5147
>
> >> Kalamazoo co-hosting it with Grand Rapids or offering Grand Rapids
> >> additional support sounds a better way to go.
>
> >> Crystal
>
> >> ----- Original Message -----,> From: "Christopher Wahmhoff" <

> >> occupy...@gmail.com>

Christopher Wahmhoff

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hehehe the Kalamazoo thing is only for a regional GA.. to host... and again they asked us.. lol I am bringing it up , so we can bring it up at GA..   

The dec 14th action was from a proposal, just set up a working group for it with 12 other participating occupy movements.. also interoccupy.org is promoting it once flint finishes the press info for it It's in gen for michigan about Levin.. but he has like 8 offices.. but also a bunch of people are taking it to Ga's abroad once the platform is decided.. which was all done at the regional GA last night.. Interocc is promoting it as a mass action..

right now it sounds like what is being decided is to make it open platform protest, or a blizzard strike.. non violent, peaceful.. multiple kinds of marches protests . .etc,  still waiting on some responces before anything is for sure though

Christopher Wahmhoff

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so also if everyone is cool crystal I'm gonna add you on .. Jen would you like back on? and do we want to make some kind of protocol?

Dan Barr

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The only protocol I want is to post personal opinion as yourself and not okzoo. Leave okzoo tag for information and events/notes. Other than that I'm fine with either or both Crystal and Jen

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Dan Barr

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Grr gonna have to get the password from jason

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Christopher Wahmhoff <occu...@gmail.com> wrote:

>hehehe hosting was for a regional GA ... not the levin action ;) there is a
>12 occupy working group doing the specifics right now.. the action is going
>to be on dec 14th for sure.. what we are discussing is an open interface
>action.. meaning there were be multiple plateforms of actions.. this is
>known as a blizzard strategy.. With very clear cummunication and unanimous
>approval last night that very clear lines of violence, and anything .. i
>guess harder.. then refusing to move or sit.. is the aggresive limit. .
>.other then that, creative empowerment is encouraged ..
>
>The regional GA thing was actually kind of asked at me and lee.. but there
>is no decision of anykind the next regional meeting is in detroit on the
>15th and if we like the idea and figure that out then, also going to check
>about a van or something so more people can go without needing the vehicle
>part
>
>
>On Sun, Dec 4, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Crystal Elizabeth Kohagen <
>crystal....@wmich.edu> wrote:
>
>> yeah, I wouldn't mind being an admin, I can easily post the stuff at the
>> same time at both sites so yeah no problem. Also, do you know who is

>> checking the occup...@gmail.com?


>>
>> Do you want to split the list of shelters to scope them out? Is there
>> anything specifically we must look for? Personally, that they support
>> occupy (which I mean rather liberally, occupy friendly is good enough,
>> maybe willing to hang our posters for events or something) and that they
>> participate in some kind of activism is most important to me as far as
>> criteria.
>>
>> Yeah. It will be pretty easy to put together. I just need to stick some
>> facilitation stuff in there. It will probably take me a couple weeks to be
>> done with it though because I have finals right now. I will also go through
>> the links and conversations you sent about Outreach and try to summarize it
>> down and post it. but again it's gonna take a minute for me to get to it.
>>
>> I don't really think Kalamazoo should host. Carl Levin doesn't even have
>> an office here. He does have one in Grand Rapids, that's really the only
>> west side city besides Traverse City...
>>
>> Gerald R. Ford Federal Building, Suite 720
>> 110 Michigan Street, NW
>> Grand Rapids, MI 49503-2313
>> Phone (616) 456-2531
>> Fax (616) 456-5147
>>
>> Kalamazoo co-hosting it with Grand Rapids or offering Grand Rapids
>> additional support sounds a better way to go.
>>
>> Crystal
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----,> From: "Christopher Wahmhoff" <

>> occu...@gmail.com>

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