Facilitated Discussions-Speak Outs

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Aria Littlhous

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Oct 21, 2011, 6:35:31 AM10/21/11
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So many ideas have come up repeatedly so many times, why don't we just
make a list and start holding the discussion meetings--grab a time--
and get started, maybe several? Can we post possible times paired with
folks who volunteer to facilitate? Then, when the Gathering Ideas
Process has finished, we can hold Speak Outs on the topics that have
not been covered.

Maybe being ready with questions/experts?

Glass Steagel
Horizontal Democracy in Governent
The Tax System

A.C.A.T

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Oct 21, 2011, 8:28:11 AM10/21/11
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Agreed. Anyone who can, and is willing to do so, should start holding
discussion meetings asap. The visualization of our text, and soon to
be tagging, analysis thus far will help to form groups to discuss
similar topics, however this can be done right now, maybe with less
participation, as the information is not so easily presented to a
large assembly. But the more discussion the better. I cannot emphasize
enough how important regular discussions of issues will be to the
process of solidifying the whole community behind a single statement.
The distillation of concepts that make up the statement to be proposed
must also take place in the minds of the individuals who will vote on
wether or not to ratify a statement. To use the example of the three
tiered tagging system, We will hold a discussion of those interested
in Glass-Steagle (just an example, this is a pretty specific
discussion), and then that same group of people will discuss Wall St.
at the next discussion, and then the outlay of a just financial system
at the next. In this way the groups of people who are interested in
specific things can get together and come to a "general consensus"(the
term here is used with the broad meaning, not actually going through a
consensus process). Then we talk to those willing and capable of
articulating the language which, in theory, would be agreed upon by
everyone who has participated in the discussion. Then repeat the
process for all of the ideas/groups of ideas that have been extracted
from our research and analysis. Hopefully in this manner we will be
able to craft a statement what will be accepted, and blocked by
nobody, because the language regarding each topic will have been
drafted, by means of inquiry and discussion, by anyone who wished to
participate. The group who is to actually craft the statement is
merely the hand for the collective mind.

ndmc

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Oct 21, 2011, 3:06:37 PM10/21/11
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I love your ideas for moving ahead and tackling the issues we all care
about in depth. I wonder, however, since none of us can speak for the
whole group if we shouldn't focus on finding out what those shared
concerns are? Yesterday I proposed that the first of these meetings be
a discussion/speak-out one the concerns/grievances and core values of
the movement? If we want to get a document passed in the GA, which I
hope is everyone's immediate concern, we must ensure that everyone is
heard.
I also proposed that the first take place at 10:30 am on Saturday
although I haven't had a chance to announce it at a GA, and Ill be at
occupy the hood tonight, so perhaps it should be postponed to Saturday
afternoon/evening or Sunday. It was also proposed that this first
speak out could serve as a time for our first face to face meeting as
a working group, perhaps a half-hour beforehand. Please post your
availability in that thread.

Allison Nevitt

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Oct 21, 2011, 3:16:56 PM10/21/11
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what about making this one of the first 7pm discussions for a non-GA night. That would be Monday.

 - Allison
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Arya S.

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Oct 21, 2011, 3:43:25 PM10/21/11
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I think a preliminary meeting on Saturday would be perfect, atleast
for me. I was planning on joining Occupy The Hood as well but could
attend GA if necessary to make such an announcement.

Arya
On Oct 21, 3:16 pm, Allison Nevitt <asnev...@gmail.com> wrote:
> what about making this one of the first 7pm discussions for a non-GA night.
> That would be Monday.
>
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> consolidation of my writings. Still migrating work over. Thank you for your
> patience.)
> Roslinhood <http://roslinhood.org> - for residents of micro-neighborhoods in
> Roslindale
> Jubilee Massachusetts <http://jubileema.org/>- breaking the chains of
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Arya S.

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Oct 21, 2011, 3:45:43 PM10/21/11
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My mistake, I was looking at Saturday for the day of solidarity. I'll
be on-site tonight.

Daria Casinelli

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Oct 21, 2011, 5:30:12 PM10/21/11
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Briefly; SPP may be doing mon. Add that google/wiki to this list????

Sent from my iPhone

Allison Nevitt

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Oct 22, 2011, 12:00:29 AM10/22/11
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If you're hoping to, remember to get on the stack for discussion night proposals at the Sat or Sun evening GA. Then tell media, if your proposal is the one consented to, so they can post it on the schedule.

(I was at OccupyTheHood tonight, so not at the GA. Don't know if the new agenda item for discussion proposals was done or not.)

 - Allison

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