Order in which alumni directory should be prepared ?

[Naveesh Sharma]

Dear Team Members,

 

 I would like to your opinion as a feedback, if the alumni directory being prepared by Nikhil should be:

 

1. Batchwise: It is easy to located batchmates and then connect with them. Starting from 1960 - till date

 Junior batches/ recent graduates might get offened to see their name at last.

2. Seniority wise: Based on the seniority that people have attained in their respective professions.

People who are unable to reach senior position due to their personal/ family problem are offended. They would

avoid being a part of alumnus due to fear of getting offended.

One of critical reason why people aviod attended alumni meet - It is taken as a race, who got more successful ? 

3. Alphabetic Order wise: It avoid all kinds of discrimination but makes it hard to located the required contact when it

come to gaining information or working in T&P (best reason).

4. Location based: Based on the location where alumni are based like US, The Middle East & different cities of India.

 

The aim is to get maximum contact without offending any one. Please give us your feedbacks.

 

PS: My contact details for the directory are as under:

 

Naveesh Sharma

In house Engineer, Keith Daniels Homes

 

Home address:

3 Holburn Street,

Port Lincoln, SA 5606

Australia

 

Mobile: +61-404450971

[Chaitanya Kadiyala]

I think Batch wise would make more sense and easy to locate members. Rest of the options wont server the purpose.

Regards,

Chaitanya

[Naveesh Sharma]

Please include my email in the contact details:

 

naveesh...@gmail.com

[Satinder Kumar Bakshi]

Batch wise make sense. I too endorse this view.

Satinder Bakshi
 1963-68 Mech. batch 

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From: Chaitanya Kadiyala <chaitany...@gmail.com>
To: oc-n...@googlegroups.com
Sent: Fri, March 4, 2011 6:43:17 AM
Subject: Re: Order in which alumni directory should be prepared ?

[Manoj Varma]

Just the passing out batch only. (This is a serious issue - some people took upto 10 years to complete the degree and they won't find it interesting to publish this issue in public).

Thanks.

REgards,

MANOJ VARMA

[Naveesh Sharma]

Hi Team,

 

There are issue for each of the options. Let discuss and come to an option which is optimum.
Batch is the most appropriate way to recognise a person. Let publish the batch (4 years term)

instead of the passing out year.

 

Kind Regards

 

Naveesh

[Golden Jubilee]

I was conducting some exit interviews on Feb 19, 2011 and found that the more important (successful and busy) a person, the less they wanted to be part of any directory. The information I received as part of the registration process has serious gaps anyway. Mr Vinod Sharma registered a lot of luminaries without providing their contact information. On-site reservations have contact information totally missing. I have also checked with some people that keep lists of attendees at schools and such, they  never publish them because of all sorts of reasons including privacy issues.

Some of the names reaching Nikhil  (30%) are people that did not attend NITSAC , though that need not be an issue.

So it boils down to publishing the information about those that are expressly agreeing to give this information on RECSrinagar site.
I have no problem with that.

The directory will be misused by some and it will get out of control of the hands that are its intended recipients. Some of those who are approving their inclusion will also regret it later.

I personally don't want to be in this directory as well.

my 2 cents.

Pal Luthra

[Chaitanya Kadiyala]

If privacy is a concern, how about this idea. One person(who can be selected after a poll) will take the lead and maintain a spreadsheet of the contacts. He can publish his contact email ID in the yahoo groups/facebook. Anyone looking for a certain contact details can approach this person with proper introduction email and the reason for request.

This person can then share the contact details if he/she finds the request to be genuine and also can intimate the person who has been sought after. If it is too much for a single person to handle this task, may be we can choose one person from each batch to maintain the contacts.

It will be more or less like a Skull and Bones society. Privacy rules!
 

my $0.02.

Chaitanya

[Golden Jubilee]

Chait,

That is already going on. People have asked me put them in touch with others. I send their requests on and it is upto the receiving party to decide on the mode of response.

Pal

[Naveesh Sharma]

Sounds scary ! Least we can have is our contact email instead of number.

 

Regarding the contact number, we shall only give it to one of the students present in the meet who can take complete responsibility and assure they would not be missued.

 

My $2's

[Naveesh Sharma]

Let the work on directory move on !

 

Meantime, lets decide what would be our mode of action ?

[Sarib Sahran]

FIRST THINGS FIRST!!!!!!!!!!
Where is Nikhil????
Its been over two weeks now!
Before a directory is made, i propose we get scanned pdf format of all the visiting cards that we collected..............
That should give us a head start................
NIKHIL....If u r seeing this mail......plz respond ASAP!
You had promised teh details to be mailed within 2 days!
SARIB

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With regards,,,

**~~## SARIB SAHRAN ##~~**

[nikhil saraf]

Sarib....if u have followed the mails after NITSAC.....there are numerous conflicts over opinions over how to get thru with that pdf.....

let everyone comment and we reach on a conclusion....some 8-10 people have expressed that their card info be made public....no such response from others....

Lets sort it out....i am no one to sit on that info...but lets have a unanimous decision.....whatever the decision, i shall  get the info to you...

Secondly I think the batch wise segregation is better......and lets keep passing out batch as identity....with branch , current country and email.

No privacy issues come up if country and email id is put on public view in the group........the one using that email can contact the recipient directly for personal contact no/address which will not be made public....its up to the sender and receiver  to share further info like they feel.

Email id sharing won't do too much harm. Lets keep the ideas coming.

My $0.02/ Rs 45.70 .

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Nikhil Saraf

Batch 2004-08

Mech Engg Deptt

HPCL India

[Bhawana]

I totally agree with Nikhil Sir. Contact numbers and address must not be displayed in this directory taking the privacy issues into consideration.

I am also in favor of batch-wise directory, as it would contain systematic record and information about the alumni and the current students which could be beneficial now and also in future to locate someone. :)

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Regards

Bhawana Kumari
Chemical Engineering
2008-2012
NIT Srinagar

[Kannan Ramanujam]

Hello !

My full particulars may be made available to anybody .
To which address I should send a CD containing all the photos I took with my camera ?
A couple of them are really good , capturing well  the mood of the occasion .

sincerely
Kannan
Chennai

On Fri, Mar 4, 2011 at 3:21 PM, nikhil saraf <nikhi...@gmail.com> wrote:

[nikhil saraf]

Kannan Sir,

You may send the CD to anyone in OC......I can take it...if all may decide...i shall put up the address

Or post the album in picassa and provide a link.

Regards,

[Kannan Ramanujam]

Dear Nikil

I am not talking of the Addresses .
I am talking of the photos .
After all reading the discussions in the Forum ,  I am not comfortable in parting with the addresses to anyone .
I took the addresses , primarily to stay in touch with all , for charting the future course of action .
Even that , I feel , I should do through this forum . Thereby I ensure I am not a nuisance to anybody .
Secondly , the entire activities are carried out in a transparent manner .

Pl give me your address . I will courier to you the CD containing photos .

Regards

Kannan 

[Sarib Sahran]

Yes i am aware of the nuances of teh issue.......
But i believe that the OC of NITSAC is responsible enough to be trusted, and when the attendees gave their cards, they very well knew that they were not supposed to be decorated on a shelf for want of 'privacy',,,,,,,,,,,,!
when someone gives u a visiting card, it means he/she is sharing his/her information willingly, and trusted upon to the receivers(organisers).....
Furthermore i remmember making the announcement myself that the information they provide would be made available to present students and other alumini for their guidance......So where does this 'privacy' issue come in?????\I
Its quite strange actually, we are missing out on the basic idea of sharing information......
IT MEANS TO CUT THE BARRIERS OF THE UNKNOWN............and we should not shadow them again, after bringing them to the fore!
SARIB

[Naveesh Sharma]

Hi team,

 

Lets freeze this discussion here. The directory would have details of batch, branch and present status of alumni.

The primary contact would be email. If anyone is happy to share more info. he can do that via email, he recieves ?

 

I feel email is safest info. we can give. Unwanted persons troubling can be sent to spam. While NITSAC function was

being organised, I was getting lots of friend request on facebook, which I had to reject to avoid spam of my personal info.

However, I am happy to talk to all through email or message on facebook.

 

Kind Regards

 

Naveesh

[Kannan Ramanujam]

Dear Sarib

I add the following details to your mail :

1 . The Cards are parted on a  one-to-one basis .
     one-to-many communications are , generally , one way . It is followed by one-to-one exchanges .
     It is the individual , who should take the initiative to establish contact among themselves .

2 . Even I was not prepared for the kind of discussions in this forum on privacy issues .
     I now realise , the higher one rises , the more private a person wishes to become . And , I am talking in general . There are always
     exceptions . I , for one , would feel the same , wherever I am .

Organisers have a responsibility towards the participants .
For that matter , when I requested Mr Pal to let me have the list of participants in advance , he refused .
I respect him for that .

One final word :
Organisers , perforce have to be a bit thick-skinned . Their ego should stay a bit on the back-burner .
For , we are there for a common cause .
These views are strictly my personal opinion .

Regards

Kannan

[Shoaib Farid]

dear all oc members, i think organising according to batch is the best option.....but can anybody tell me about this directory....i mean is it paper work or being prepared as a spread sheet???? --- On Fri, 4/3/11, Naveesh Sharma <naveesh...@gmail.com> wrote:

[Naveesh Sharma]

I wonder if Nikhil will be able to do everything himself.

 

Can any of the present students help him in this work ?

[Shoaib Farid]

yeah i can help...if nikhil sir wants me to help....

[Naveesh Sharma]

I am sure, he needs a hand. Cant do all by himself. He is working full time.

[Shoaib Farid]

ok  sir....i and other members(anjan ,shikher) who wre present at the alumini are ready to help.....but tell me wat are v supposed  to do???

[Bhawana]

even i m willing to work....if any one doesnot have any kind of issues with it :)

[Golden Jubilee]

IS EMAIL ADDRESS SAFE TO GIVE OUT?

You guys surprise me with your tech know-how sometimes and at other times, I wonder what drugs you are on. LOL.

I typed in my own email id, withing brackets and did a google search.

ARE YOU READY FOR THIS?

My home address, every address I have lived in at least for 10 year, my home phone number, my children names, including some other people called Pal Luthra, it all showed up: Take a look at my privacy issue if you know just the email address.

Click on this as it appeared in the search results.

http://pipl.com/directory/people/Pal/Luthra

[Shoaib Farid]

@bhawna mam, i don't should anybody have a problem mam.....i thought u must be busy in ur training but if u r free v'l be happy to work under u...... --- On Fri, 4/3/11, Bhawana <bh179...@gmail.com> wrote:

[nikhil saraf]

All help is most welcome.......and I am there as well.

Sarib....i dont want to give the impression that i would like to sit on the contacts.....lets find a way that the purpose for which those visiting cards were taken ,  ie foe benifit of alumi and new students, that purpose gets realised.

You propose a way.

I suggest we make a pdf and keep it with the OC or as Pal sahab may suggest after discussing it with the seniors.

Then who so ever needs the info may contact that particular moderator of the PDF and get the desired info.

After all we can have that much trust among ourselves and we wont pester anyone with blank calls after getting numbers. There is no one selling insurance or phone cards here on phone....lol

This can go a long way in building trust. 

What does everyone say.

Meanwhile we can begin work on the directory,I say an excel sheet with photo in ist row, name in second and so on. More ideas...........................

[Sarib Sahran]

ur risght Nikhil........
lets get the pdf generated............
we can keep it with the OC.........
The way i propose alumini and present students et al can get benifited is:
1.They have a request for a specific book/project/technical assistance/practical training/placement/client relation etc........... they(students/OC/alumini) can contact some of the attendees.........
2.We have a future meet planned, we can contact them.........as we know they r sure-shot attendees......
3.There is a forum for discussion wherein their valuable suggestions are needed.........
4.Their help might be needed for college activities later on when we have the proposed 'trust' made......
etc......
SARIB

[Golden Jubilee]

Include the people that want to be included. Nothing wrong with that. And remove them if they want to be excluded. Protect the information from those seeking information for commercializing it.

Pal

[Naveesh Sharma]

Nikhil/ Sarib,

 

 Make a plan of how to go about the directory. Then guide volunteers what each one has to do ? You guys have the experience to tackle this, but you lack time to do it due to your job. Please get the volunteers to work on that.

 

Cheers

 

Naveesh

[Naveesh Sharma]

Hi Pal,

 

How are things going at your end ? I hope you had a wonderful trip in India.

 Thanks for sharing all info. I was unaware of the fact that email is linked to personal information.

 

What I would do in such a senario, if I was you ? I would make two types of directories.

 

1. Private Directory: A password protected pdf, circulated to people whom we can trust. Will include names of most of the people.

2. Public Directory: Free access to all, can be uploaded on websites/ social groups.

 

After a directory is prepared, I would send personal mail to all to know, if they would their details to be listed in public directory.

 

Kind Regards

 

Naveesh