Nokia Fibre Router

[Kayleen]

Anyone know if I can attach another router to the Data 2 output on my Nokia Fiber modem? I have seen an answer to the extra router question that suggests a Gigabit switch between the ONT and the 2 routers but it would be simpler to use the Data 2 port no? Or is it not active?

Can you help with how to connect the ethernet cables , the Telus Modem is on the middle floor , the Nokia box is in the basement , i have 6 ethernet cables to connect that are located next to the Nokia box, Can i add a router connected to the nokia in the basement with all not connections , and have the telus modem on the middle floor as the wifi router.

I have a fibre optic cable incoming to an ONS, on the way out of the ONS is also a fibre optic cable which goes directly into a router which has a fibre optic port. The router is Wifi 4 and I want to upgrade to wifi 6, but I can't find a router which supports wifi 6 that has a fibre optic port for the current cable to plug into.

Is there a wifi 6 router that has a fibre optic port? or is there a workaround for this in which I can have fibre optic cable from the ONS going into some sort of electronic device and have a LAN cable coming out which then goes to the new wifi 6 router?

Thinking about your reply, maybe what I thought was an ONT in my premises is not an ONT, instead it is just a box which basically connects 2 fibre optic cables together which then goes directly to the router, and maybe the Nokia router has an ONS built into it. So maybe I need to look at buying an ONT, and then plug the fibre optic into it first and then run a LAN cable from it to a new router..... I think that is what you have suggested.

No. For any FIBER ISP service, there has to be a Fiber ONT device that converts the Fiber optic signal to a ethernet RJ45 port connection. Talk with the ISP about what is needed to be used for there services. They will have this information.

surely there has to be routers out there that have fibre optic ports, but having searched a lot on the net, I can find any.... which is strange because fibre optic is common now, so why are router manufacturers not selling routers with fibre optic ports???

That's something that most router Mfr may not have licensing to work with nor want to get into since most Fiber services are handled by the ISP only and may not have the support resources for nor want to support that additional HW at the router level. Most ISP Fiber is handled at the ISP or Specific ONT mfr level. Not a the consumer router level. Maybe but it's still competing with the Cable ISP level as well which is still going strong and not going anywhere anytime soon. There no consumer class router that has ONT/Fiber support here.

So get a ONT then you can connect up any consumer router to it.

That's exactly right, this is why I have now ordered an ONT which I will connect in between the fibre termination station and the new router which only connects by LAN cable. Hopefully all will be good.

I've recently been advised in this forum that I could use a 3rd-party modem instead of the T3200. (The reason for the change is a rather complicated setup that still relies on an old copper line between the ONT and Actiontec). Here is the thread: -Home-Phone/Got-Fibre-how-to-replace-Actiontec-modem-that-is-stil...

I've just received the Eero Pro but seem unable to connect it to the ONT. It simply does not recognize internet. Does this mean that I have to use the Actiontec in bridge-mode (which was exactly what I was trying to avoid), or is there a way to configure the Eero for data input directly from the ONT?

Would suggest you let google do some research for you. Many devices need hardware modification to work with this SFP ONT, some work out of the box, and others will not work no matter what you do to them.

Here is an example of community trying to get the Nokia SFP's running with a third party router fibre in / fibre out setup, yes I am one of the few documented as modding it and verifying it running on Telus. -Internet-Bypassing-the-HH3K-up-to-2-5Gbps-using-a-BCM5781...

Here are a couple of photos of my peculiar setup in case it helps: at current, the data cable is routed outside again to hook up to the old copper line (which enters the house in another place and that I'm trying to "cut out" by installing the new router directly at ONT and do away with T3200).

Finding gear that is verified to support it is hit and miss due to fact that either you get lucky and own something that supports it, or you have to research online to find it. You do not want to just go out and buy the best switch/router and assume it will work unless its confirmed that it will. Couple this with the fact ISP's don't like you messing with their standardization and the more people that post these things publicly the more chance it will be (intentionally) broken with future firmware updates.

Sure, if Telus make the SFP ONT available. But all of the quality routers I have tested work with the currently available Nokia ONT (connecting and re-booting in sequence) seamlessly (other then turning off QoS). So no need for the SFP ONT, and Telus have many Nokia's. Routers including the highly rated TP-Link AX Wifi routers and Ubiquiti routers. Always best to use Telus for their strength - the WAN connection, and leave the LAN up to the owner and his well documented router. Yes you can use Telus for a simple LAN (they sell TV and VOIP as well), just get their wifi router. But once you start building your LAN out, particularly with wifi you are playing into their weakness. The technician you speak to may or may not know much about LAN topology. Recognize what you are paying for - the WAN connection and the TV and Phone boxes - for the rest of the LAN you are on your own. Telus do not sell LAN configuration services.

As of 30th of October all new connections can't use the Nokia ONT as a "router" it is now simply a "bridge" and you cannot log into it, most RSPs have adopted this approach in advance of the 30th of October deadline.

Thank you all for your help, it is so appreciated. So everything about is correct and now makes sense why we were able to use this as a router but no longer. My husband opted for hyperfibre as he games and he wanted the best "ping" - no idea what that is all about lol. Anyway, if Hyperfibre is not needed, can you recommend a good fibre option then please for his PS5 live gaming?

Ping is a way to measure latency (or delay) on a connection. Hyperfibre does not have an inherant lower latency than any other fibre connection - it's all at the speed of light. For gaming, less delay is considered to be better.

The only time you need to go for a faster connection to reduce latency is when the connection is nearing capacity - i.e. lots of other things using it at the same time. It's like adding lanes to a road, they don't let you get from one end to the other any faster, until the road starts to bottleneck.

As @michaelmurfy says, you'd probably be absolutely fine on 900/500 standard fibre with any of the decent providers. If you have some other use though where someone in the house is regularly moving huge amounts of data up and down, then it would be a time to consider hyperfibre. Not video streaming and that sort of thing, but massive backups or raw video files etc.

Skinny/Spark/One and several others would all be fine. Quic are also good, but they are targetted at users that have a fairly in depth technical skillset and can self support for most aspect. Not to say you shouldn't use Quic, but be prepared to learn a bit about networking.

Thank you for your advice and explanations. Makes it a lot easier to understand. Ok I think we may downgrade with Quic and see how we go for the month and if we don't win we'll try another provider. We have 4 x Deco M5's around our house as we have a large double story. Could you give us some advice on maybe something better than those to get better coverage all over our house?

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