New Cappuccino App and Slightly Improved CPTextView
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Saikat Chakrabarti
Nov 3, 2009, 9:11:52 PM11/3/09
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We (Sheena and I) finally put up the Cappuccino App we've been working
on for the past few months. It's a simple web application wireframing
tool with sharing capabilities. The landing page for the application
has some more details about it - http://gomockingbird.com .
http://gomockingbird.com/mockingbird is a direct link to the app.
on for the past few months. It's a simple web application wireframing
tool with sharing capabilities. The landing page for the application
has some more details about it - http://gomockingbird.com .
http://gomockingbird.com/mockingbird is a direct link to the app.
Also, I spent some time a couple nights ago making some improvements
to the CPTextView gist that has been floating around. I wrote about
it here - http://techblog.gomockingbird.com/a-small-step-towards-better-text-support-in-c
. Hope people find that helpful.
Anyway, I'd love to hear what others think of Mockingbird - we're
planning on trying to launch it on a wider scale fairly soon.
Brad Hutchins
Nov 3, 2009, 9:23:54 PM11/3/09
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Hey that is pretty good. Looks like I will have to do a Project / Time tracker like http://www.timetableapp.com/ but internal to our network.
Plus a good project to really learn the ins and outs.
Francisco Tolmasky
Nov 3, 2009, 9:25:08 PM11/3/09
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Wow this is fantastic! I'm super impressed. I'm looking forward to
seeing this progress, it'll be an excellent replacement for balsamiq
On Nov 3, 6:11 pm, Saikat Chakrabarti <saik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> We (Sheena and I) finally put up the Cappuccino App we've been working
> on for the past few months. It's a simple web application wireframing
> tool with sharing capabilities. The landing page for the application
> has some more details about it -http://gomockingbird.com.http://gomockingbird.com/mockingbirdis a direct link to the app.
seeing this progress, it'll be an excellent replacement for balsamiq
On Nov 3, 6:11 pm, Saikat Chakrabarti <saik...@gmail.com> wrote:
> We (Sheena and I) finally put up the Cappuccino App we've been working
> on for the past few months. It's a simple web application wireframing
> tool with sharing capabilities. The landing page for the application
>
> Also, I spent some time a couple nights ago making some improvements
> to the CPTextView gist that has been floating around. I wrote about
> it here -http://techblog.gomockingbird.com/a-small-step-towards-better-text-su...
> Also, I spent some time a couple nights ago making some improvements
> to the CPTextView gist that has been floating around. I wrote about
John Fox
Nov 3, 2009, 11:01:39 PM11/3/09
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Hi:
Your app looks really nice. Real artists ship, so congratulations Mr. Picasso.
Two few quick comments:
* Your app's initial load time (as will everyone's) will benefit immensely from spriting. Give the new jake branch a go.
* I noticed some odd button size/color inconsistencies, for example in the Open panel. I don't know if this was intentional, but it struck me as odd
Best,
John
---John C. FoxFounderGroupSmarts, LLCMemoryMiner - "A world of stories..."
Elias
Nov 4, 2009, 3:34:25 AM11/4/09
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Great app, I really might use this in the future!
And hopefully your approach of the CPTextField as a textarea will be
implemented into the master soon! For me the lack of the textarea Is
one of the biggest problems right now in Capp.
E
On 4 Nov., 05:01, John Fox <j...@memoryminer.com> wrote:
> Hi:
>
> Your app looks really nice. Real artists ship, so congratulations Mr.
> Picasso.
>
> Two few quick comments:
>
> * Your app's initial load time (as will everyone's) will benefit
> immensely from spriting. Give the new jake branch a go.
>
> * I noticed some odd button size/color inconsistencies, for example in
> the Open panel. I don't know if this was intentional, but it struck me
> as odd
>
> Best,
>
> John
>
> On Nov 3, 2009, at 6:11 PM, Saikat Chakrabarti wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > We (Sheena and I) finally put up the Cappuccino App we've been working
> > on for the past few months. It's a simple web application wireframing
> > tool with sharing capabilities. The landing page for the application
> > has some more details about it -http://gomockingbird.com.
> >http://gomockingbird.com/mockingbirdis a direct link to the app.
And hopefully your approach of the CPTextField as a textarea will be
implemented into the master soon! For me the lack of the textarea Is
one of the biggest problems right now in Capp.
E
On 4 Nov., 05:01, John Fox <j...@memoryminer.com> wrote:
> Hi:
>
> Your app looks really nice. Real artists ship, so congratulations Mr.
> Picasso.
>
> Two few quick comments:
>
> * Your app's initial load time (as will everyone's) will benefit
> immensely from spriting. Give the new jake branch a go.
>
> * I noticed some odd button size/color inconsistencies, for example in
> the Open panel. I don't know if this was intentional, but it struck me
> as odd
>
> Best,
>
> John
>
> On Nov 3, 2009, at 6:11 PM, Saikat Chakrabarti wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > We (Sheena and I) finally put up the Cappuccino App we've been working
> > on for the past few months. It's a simple web application wireframing
> > tool with sharing capabilities. The landing page for the application
> > has some more details about it -http://gomockingbird.com.
>
> > Also, I spent some time a couple nights ago making some improvements
> > to the CPTextView gist that has been floating around. I wrote about
> > it here -http://techblog.gomockingbird.com/a-small-step-towards-better-text-su...
> > Also, I spent some time a couple nights ago making some improvements
> > to the CPTextView gist that has been floating around. I wrote about
Jérôme Denanot
Nov 4, 2009, 5:20:20 AM11/4/09
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Really Stunning application, will write a news about it ! It is also really fast.
I find it complementary to Atlas (that will also allow to directly mockup screen layouts for our customers, directly on their browser, and even test the application/workflow).
This one is more general (not tied to CP final looking), and less technical (so more immediate), so both should have their use, depending on the technical level of our client.
Do you have any info about pricing after beta ?
Nice tip also about the CPTextView.
Jerome
I find it complementary to Atlas (that will also allow to directly mockup screen layouts for our customers, directly on their browser, and even test the application/workflow).
This one is more general (not tied to CP final looking), and less technical (so more immediate), so both should have their use, depending on the technical level of our client.
Do you have any info about pricing after beta ?
Nice tip also about the CPTextView.
Jerome
2009/11/4 Saikat Chakrabarti <sai...@gmail.com>
David Cann
Nov 4, 2009, 5:31:08 AM11/4/09
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Awesome, this is a great app!
-d
-d
Saikat Chakrabarti
Nov 4, 2009, 5:33:36 AM11/4/09
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We haven't really decided on a pricing model, but there will probably
be a limited free version of the app after we start charging. Mostly,
we're just focusing on adding a few new features and ironing out the
bugs for now. Glad you like it =).
be a limited free version of the app after we start charging. Mostly,
we're just focusing on adding a few new features and ironing out the
bugs for now. Glad you like it =).
Jérôme Denanot
Nov 4, 2009, 6:00:24 AM11/4/09
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Thanks, that is exactly the business model I suggested months ago ;-) (better than Ext-JS LGPL to GPL).
By the way, does anybody knows about a licence that would allow use of frameworks for proprietary/closed projects (that is applications developed for or inside the client company ant that then won't be released publicly), but that won't allow commercial derivates of the framework itself ?
In fact I'm looking for an equivalent of the creactive commons nc&nd, but for source code (it seems nc&nd could also work for code but I didn't see anyone using it).
The goal is to avoid someone adding two lines of code in an LGPL framework and selling it... I know it is unlikey, as the commuity would react strongly (and minor additions to an existing framework wouldn't then be a selling point). But the limit could be less obvious.
Thanks,
By the way, does anybody knows about a licence that would allow use of frameworks for proprietary/closed projects (that is applications developed for or inside the client company ant that then won't be released publicly), but that won't allow commercial derivates of the framework itself ?
In fact I'm looking for an equivalent of the creactive commons nc&nd, but for source code (it seems nc&nd could also work for code but I didn't see anyone using it).
The goal is to avoid someone adding two lines of code in an LGPL framework and selling it... I know it is unlikey, as the commuity would react strongly (and minor additions to an existing framework wouldn't then be a selling point). But the limit could be less obvious.
Thanks,
Maz
Nov 4, 2009, 4:32:03 PM11/4/09
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Try the GPL. It requires all deritive works to be publically released.
See http://articles.sitepoint.com/article/public-license-explained
On Nov 4, 6:00 am, Jérôme Denanot <jdena...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks, that is exactly the business model I suggested months ago ;-)
> (better than Ext-JS LGPL to GPL).
>
> By the way, does anybody knows about a licence that would allow use of
> frameworks for proprietary/closed projects (that is applications developed
> for or inside the client company ant that then won't be released publicly),
> but that won't allow commercial derivates of the framework itself ?
> In fact I'm looking for an equivalent of the creactive commons nc&nd, but
> for source code (it seems nc&nd could also work for code but I didn't see
> anyone using it).
> The goal is to avoid someone adding two lines of code in an LGPL framework
> and selling it... I know it is unlikey, as the commuity would react strongly
> (and minor additions to an existing framework wouldn't then be a selling
> point). But the limit could be less obvious.
>
> Thanks,
> Jerome
>
> 2009/11/4 Saikat Chakrabarti <saik...@gmail.com>
See http://articles.sitepoint.com/article/public-license-explained
On Nov 4, 6:00 am, Jérôme Denanot <jdena...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks, that is exactly the business model I suggested months ago ;-)
> (better than Ext-JS LGPL to GPL).
>
> By the way, does anybody knows about a licence that would allow use of
> frameworks for proprietary/closed projects (that is applications developed
> for or inside the client company ant that then won't be released publicly),
> but that won't allow commercial derivates of the framework itself ?
> In fact I'm looking for an equivalent of the creactive commons nc&nd, but
> for source code (it seems nc&nd could also work for code but I didn't see
> anyone using it).
> The goal is to avoid someone adding two lines of code in an LGPL framework
> and selling it... I know it is unlikey, as the commuity would react strongly
> (and minor additions to an existing framework wouldn't then be a selling
> point). But the limit could be less obvious.
>
> Thanks,
> Jerome
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > We haven't really decided on a pricing model, but there will probably
> > be a limited free version of the app after we start charging. Mostly,
> > we're just focusing on adding a few new features and ironing out the
> > bugs for now. Glad you like it =).
>
>
>
>
>
> > We haven't really decided on a pricing model, but there will probably
> > be a limited free version of the app after we start charging. Mostly,
> > we're just focusing on adding a few new features and ironing out the
> > bugs for now. Glad you like it =).
>
> > On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 2:20 AM, Jérôme Denanot <jdena...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Really Stunning application, will write a news about it ! It is also
> > really
> > > fast.
>
> > > I find it complementary to Atlas (that will also allow to directly mockup
> > > screen layouts for our customers, directly on their browser, and even
> > test
> > > the application/workflow).
>
> > > This one is more general (not tied to CP final looking), and less
> > technical
> > > (so more immediate), so both should have their use, depending on the
> > > technical level of our client.
>
> > > Do you have any info about pricing after beta ?
>
> > > Nice tip also about the CPTextView.
>
> > > Jerome
>
> > > 2009/11/4 Saikat Chakrabarti <saik...@gmail.com>
> > > Really Stunning application, will write a news about it ! It is also
> > really
> > > fast.
>
> > > I find it complementary to Atlas (that will also allow to directly mockup
> > > screen layouts for our customers, directly on their browser, and even
> > test
> > > the application/workflow).
>
> > > This one is more general (not tied to CP final looking), and less
> > technical
> > > (so more immediate), so both should have their use, depending on the
> > > technical level of our client.
>
> > > Do you have any info about pricing after beta ?
>
> > > Nice tip also about the CPTextView.
>
> > > Jerome
>
>
> > >> We (Sheena and I) finally put up the Cappuccino App we've been working
> > >> on for the past few months. It's a simple web application wireframing
> > >> tool with sharing capabilities. The landing page for the application
> > >> has some more details about it -http://gomockingbird.com.
> > >>http://gomockingbird.com/mockingbirdis a direct link to the app.
> > >> We (Sheena and I) finally put up the Cappuccino App we've been working
> > >> on for the past few months. It's a simple web application wireframing
> > >> tool with sharing capabilities. The landing page for the application
> > >> has some more details about it -http://gomockingbird.com.
>
> > >> Also, I spent some time a couple nights ago making some improvements
> > >> to the CPTextView gist that has been floating around. I wrote about
> > >> it here -
>
> >http://techblog.gomockingbird.com/a-small-step-towards-better-text-su...
> > >> Also, I spent some time a couple nights ago making some improvements
> > >> to the CPTextView gist that has been floating around. I wrote about
> > >> it here -
>
millenomi
Nov 4, 2009, 4:38:53 PM11/4/09
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On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 10:32 PM, Maz <ma.m...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Try the GPL. It requires all deritive works to be publically released.
> See http://articles.sitepoint.com/article/public-license-explained
>
>
> Try the GPL. It requires all deritive works to be publically released.
> See http://articles.sitepoint.com/article/public-license-explained
>
LGPL requires that, too; it just allows for works combined with the
library to remain closed source, so long that an user that runs the
app can change the library. ∞
Charles F. Munat
Nov 4, 2009, 5:01:42 PM11/4/09
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I strongly recommend considering the LGPL before you go with the GPL.
Many projects avoid the GPL like the plague because it is so restrictive
that it discourages many from participating. If you're GPL, then
basically everything you work with has to be GPL, if I understand it
correctly.
If LGPL or a similar license will fulfill your needs, I'd go with that.
Chas.
Many projects avoid the GPL like the plague because it is so restrictive
that it discourages many from participating. If you're GPL, then
basically everything you work with has to be GPL, if I understand it
correctly.
If LGPL or a similar license will fulfill your needs, I'd go with that.
Chas.
Ross Boucher
Nov 4, 2009, 5:02:58 PM11/4/09
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Seems like this thread has gone significantly off topic. Not opposed
to the discussion, but we should consider moving it to a new topic.
to the discussion, but we should consider moving it to a new topic.
Jérôme Denanot
Nov 4, 2009, 5:31:12 PM11/4/09
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Oups, sorry Ross, ok to move to "License question about frameworks"
2009/11/4 Ross Boucher <rbou...@gmail.com>
aparajita
Nov 7, 2009, 10:07:46 AM11/7/09
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Great stuff! It's great to see what is possible with cappuccino (and
great programmers using it).
May I ask how you did the custom loading screen?
> Anyway, I'd love to hear what others think ofMockingbird- we're
great programmers using it).
May I ask how you did the custom loading screen?
> Anyway, I'd love to hear what others think ofMockingbird- we're
Sheena Pakanati
Nov 10, 2009, 2:15:08 AM11/10/09
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If you mean the first screen with the bird logo and load percentage,
it's pretty much ripped (with permission :) ) from how 280Slides does
it. Check the source of index.html and it should be fairly clear.
it's pretty much ripped (with permission :) ) from how 280Slides does
it. Check the source of index.html and it should be fairly clear.
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