Re: [Obi-instrument-branch] organizations
frank gibson
> Dear instrumenters,
>
> The biomaterial branch added an example of organization, Affymetrix,
> as an instance of the organization class.
> This is a template which goal is to show how to proceed with those,
> instances in general will be stored in a separate file.
>
> The relation has_manufacturer/vendor/supplier has been added to the
> agenda for the relation call tomorrow: there is currently a relation
> is_manufactured_by, do we need its inverse relation
> (is_manufacturer_of), and do we want to change its label to something
> more generic (maybe has_supplier/provider as suggested by Frank at http://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=2310029&group_id=177891&atid=886178)
> and then use roles to differentiate between vendor/manufacturer
Just to clarify, we need the relation is_manufacturer_of, creating the
inverse of this would be appropriate. The relation is_supplier_of
would be in addition to the manufacture_of relation, not in replace
of. However, manufactures can also be suppliers e.g
gel tank
Sigma is_manufacturer_of gel_tank
Sigma is_supplier_of gel_tank
FIlter paper
paper_products is_manufacturer_of filter paper
fisher_scientific is_supplier_of filter paper
Frank
>
> I moved that item to first on the list for discussion on the relation
> call (it has its advantages to write down the agenda ;) ) as we are
> ready to move on on this and it would help us progress on our mini use
> case (a flow cytometer has manufacturer BD). We will then be able to
> attack the parameter issue.
>
> Thanks,
> Melanie
>
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Daniel Schober
1. I think implementing a few example instances for the Oonomasticon exteriment is a good idea.
2. Yes, I would think all of these are needed and for the moment they are siblings, because 'is vendor of' is not always a subrelation of 'is supplier of'. I would suggest the following relation pairs:
is supplier of - has supplier
is vendor of - has vendor ('is sold by' is not inharmony to the naming conventions)
is manufacturer of - has manufacturer
I would stick with the 'is manufacturer of'-'has manfacturer' pair and substitute/remove 'is manufactured by'. The reason of this is that it seem that the is_x_of - has_x naming convention allows to avoid lexical heterogenity. In our example above, the alternative convention is_x_of - is_xed_by will lead to the lexical heterogenous pair
is vendor of - is vended by or 'is sold by'
3. Is the domain of these a role , e.g. vendor role or the instance of organisation ?
Cheers, Daniel.
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frank gibson
> Hi instrumenteers.
>
> 1. I think implementing a few example instances for the Oonomasticon
> exteriment is a good idea.
>
> 2. Yes, I would think all of these are needed and for the moment they are
> siblings, because 'is vendor of' is not always a subrelation of 'is supplier
> of'. I would suggest the following relation pairs:
> is supplier of - has supplier
> is vendor of - has vendor ('is sold by' is not inharmony to the
> naming conventions)
> is manufacturer of - has manufacturer
The is_supplier relation is a synonym of is vendor_of. If you want to
be more specific in the mechanism of supply, we could do this by
roles, e.g vendor_role, distributor_role, manufacturer_role
>
> I would stick with the 'is manufacturer of'-'has manfacturer' pair and
> substitute/remove 'is manufactured by'. The reason of this is that it seem
> that the is_x_of - has_x naming convention allows to avoid lexical
> heterogenity. In our example above, the alternative convention is_x_of -
> is_xed_by will lead to the lexical heterogenous pair
> is vendor of - is vended by or 'is sold by'
Something that is manufactured, occurs by the organization
participating in a process. This is why we have the relation,
is_manufactured_by as opposed to is_manufacture_of. The relations
realizes is of similar form. Following this form the deliverables we
need are:
is_manufactured_by <--> manufactures
is_supplied_by <--> supplies
>
> 3. Is the domain of these a role , e.g. vendor role or the instance of
> organisation ?
The domain of both is artifact_object. The range is person(instance of
homo sapiens) or organiszation
Frank
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Alan Ruttenberg
-Alan
frank gibson
<alanrut...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'd like to see a def of supplied-by.
It is currently in the tracker item at this link
https://sourceforge.net/tracker2/index.php?func=detail&aid=2310029&group_id=177891&atid=886178
Frank
>
> -Alan
>
> On Tue, Dec 9, 2008 at 6:45 AM, frank gibson <Frank....@ncl.ac.uk> wrote: