Biomaterial call 24th April - minutes

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Melanie Courtot

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Apr 24, 2009, 5:59:23 PM4/24/09
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Hi all,

You will find below the notes from this morning's call.

I am unavailable for the calls on Friday 1st and 8th, so unless
somebody volunteers before the 29th to take care of the next 2 calls
they will be canceled.

Thanks,
Melanie


Attendees: Jie, James, Bjoern, Alan, Melanie
Excused: Oliver

EOO: how to move forward
memory: EOO use blood sample
http://docs.google.com/Doc?id=dzprnmw_79d5fh9qdn&hl=en

(JM: we have ants escaping in the office - zut)

Goal: have one sample class, which is output from "sampling" process,
and sampling covers taking sample from organism
all samples are output of sampling processes

remaining issues:
- how to tie back to organism
- how to represent the chain of processes (i.e. at which stage in the
chain an EOO stops being an EOO)

definition (by AR) of sample of organism role = realized in process
where x is proxy for o and x has part o' or derives from o' and o' is
specified output of taking sample from organism and o is specified
input
example: liver slice: human specified input of taking sample, output
is liver, liver slice is derived from liver

*note*: this is a design decision: we talk about sample of organismal
origin for now, knowing that later on we will need to deal with
statistical sample, environmental sample and expand on this


relation derives from seems ok, and would cover develops from and cell
cultures: "Thus if cells of type C1 derive_from cells of type C, then
any cell division involving an instance of C1 in a given lineage is
preceded_by cellular processes involving an instance of C."

We will work with the PA branch to build a list of processes retaining
the "EOO quality" in all cases. We know that it won't be possible to
have a finite list: we choose the hybrid option of i) by using
specific pre determined process the output will be inferred as EOO ii)
in other cases the user will have the option to assert it himself.

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