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Roger Ogden
Feb 12, 2010, 2:51:29 PM2/12/10
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Someone on my YouTube channel recommended that I listen to Dr. John Hendrik Clarke, a pan-Africanist. He is not in the same class a Farrakhan and the NOI, but maybe worth knowing about. I had not heard of him before.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCeSCzzzQ8E
Roger
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Feb 12, 2010, 3:38:00 PM2/12/10
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This past week I received a request on my knowledge regarding a fellow known as "SETI". He spearheads a website where the works of black leaders like Clarke and others can be found. I thought the site was known as African Glory. The sender had sent me a link to the site with questions but I deleted the email. SETI was around three years ago, hiding his identity behind fogged screens. He wears a uniform and travels to and from Detroit to New York providing military training. The site he now manages is filled with all sorts of good information on 'the other blacks'. I briefly searched for the site without success. I have it bookmarked on my other computer; when that computer is repaired I'll forward the site to you. It is filled tons of data - Most of which you have to purchase but you can use it as a reference point for further studies. There are three leaders in the community to which Hendrick appears to take part in or is associated with. Not unlike the NOI, Clarke and SETI blame 'white' for all sorts of havoc in the black community. Among SETI's first videos was one titled, "Lock and Load: War is coming". Last I checked it was no longer on YT but I downloaded a copy for my records.
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80 Spill
Feb 12, 2010, 3:39:36 PM2/12/10
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Found it again: http://www.africanglory.com/
Roger Ogden
Feb 12, 2010, 3:47:39 PM2/12/10
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Bob,
The full name that he goes by is Sara Suten Seti. I have been watching his clips for a while. They are great comedy. I think he is connected to the NOI somehow. I have seen him in a clip at what looks like the NOI temple in Manhattan. He seems a lot like a New Black Panther.
I don't know how much of a following he has. My impression is not much. I think his clips are deleted from YouTube pretty often.
Roger
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Roger Ogden
Feb 12, 2010, 3:58:04 PM2/12/10
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Bob,
Looks interesting, maybe I will order some of his DVD's sometime.
Here he is in full General Sara Seten Suti military regalia:
He is always talking about other Black Nationalists being all talk and not action, but all he does is talk.
Roger
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80 Spill
Feb 12, 2010, 3:58:52 PM2/12/10
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I wrote him a personal note asking him, "What are you going to do with all your hate. We want to know."
He responded, "Who is WE?"
I responded, "WE are people who don't like guys like you talking about killing guys like us." I didn't hear from him again.
As I mentioned, he was traveling from Detroit to New York. Part of his travels included going into New Hampshire and other new England states where he would disappear for awhile. As with all BN connections, SETI remains distant from the NOI in the event he takes the 'fall' - I'm sure you've studied the conversations on the COINTELPRO situation and the means by which BN groups separated in order to insulate one another from causing the whole house to come crashing down. SETI is a piece of that larger puzzle. It appears his mission has become somewhat confused as all indications are that actual Jihadists are now training NOI assets rather than relying singularly upon former U.S. military personnel. It took us some time to track down the training sites being used by the NOI and other excess groups. That list is now pretty well described though it still likely is not a complete list. A few years back training was being conducted in Georgia, AZ and NV of all places. GA I understand but NV and AZ? Crazy. Didn't Jeff send out a list of training camp just recently? The FBI has maintained an interesting relationship with those fellows - Avoiding going into the camps due to the separation clause. I find it interesting that the FBI has no problem invading Christian facilities even though they, too, are protected by various amendments. Once again we see the special treatment of the Muslim community -
bob
He responded, "Who is WE?"
I responded, "WE are people who don't like guys like you talking about killing guys like us." I didn't hear from him again.
As I mentioned, he was traveling from Detroit to New York. Part of his travels included going into New Hampshire and other new England states where he would disappear for awhile. As with all BN connections, SETI remains distant from the NOI in the event he takes the 'fall' - I'm sure you've studied the conversations on the COINTELPRO situation and the means by which BN groups separated in order to insulate one another from causing the whole house to come crashing down. SETI is a piece of that larger puzzle. It appears his mission has become somewhat confused as all indications are that actual Jihadists are now training NOI assets rather than relying singularly upon former U.S. military personnel. It took us some time to track down the training sites being used by the NOI and other excess groups. That list is now pretty well described though it still likely is not a complete list. A few years back training was being conducted in Georgia, AZ and NV of all places. GA I understand but NV and AZ? Crazy. Didn't Jeff send out a list of training camp just recently? The FBI has maintained an interesting relationship with those fellows - Avoiding going into the camps due to the separation clause. I find it interesting that the FBI has no problem invading Christian facilities even though they, too, are protected by various amendments. Once again we see the special treatment of the Muslim community -
bob
80 Spill
Feb 12, 2010, 4:01:13 PM2/12/10
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Ugh, SETI is a 'message' guy in the classic sense of that word. His rantings often contain triggers that are messages to other BNs and their associates. Occasionally a panther shows up in the lower right hand corner of his videos - We haven't made the connection as to why the panther is there - It may be a signal to a NBP hit squad to act.
Bob
Bob
80 Spill
Feb 12, 2010, 4:01:59 PM2/12/10
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You can waste your money on the videos but most of them are available in pieces on YT.
Roger Ogden
Feb 12, 2010, 4:03:51 PM2/12/10
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Seti is not an Obama fan. Some Black Nationalists cooperate, others feel competitive, because they think that they should be the Messiah. Seti thinks that he should be the Black Savior.
Roger
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80 Spill
Feb 12, 2010, 4:24:15 PM2/12/10
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I'm not convinced some of the anger thrown at Obama by BNs is legitimate. They communicate just as we would if we were concealing truth. By creating the illusion that some BNs are angry with Obama the white man's concerns are reduced.
SETI is an interesting character and may or may not have any implications to unfolding events. I have tracked the links between BN sites and they all lead to one another at one level or another. It would be crazy for any revolution to begin on YT videos - just as SETI notes. Hate is common and complaints are common; beyond that the messages being made for YT rarely if ever carry messages they do not want revealed.
There is a Silent Wars video where one of the callers to the program says, "Brothers, you are talking too much. The oppressor gonna pick up on what you sayin' and connect the dots. You got to be careful what you publicly say."
During one of Rev. Wright's rants, a man steps forward, grabs Wright's arm and whispers something in his ear. "I know there's white people in here. I know there's white people in here." Wright's comments could be interpreted as an acknowledgement of his indifference to whites or it could be an acknowledgement of the necessity to conceal certain attitudes and beliefs blacks do not want flowing through the white community.
Among the many things I learned during my investigation of the NOI back in '95 was the fact that the transference of information is highly controlled. The left hand is not allowed to know what the right hand is doing. Communications are direct; more public conversations that could be 'tapped' are laden with 'slave speak'. Farrakhan knows his place in line - as do all BNs - their loyalty to the 'cause' - to black - is enviable. The psychological wars continue - They will be filled with confounding and confusing elements we are forced to wend our way through. I adhere to the idea that the major tenet of BN is adherance and loyalty to 'black' - Sure, there are 'snitches' in the black community. Members of black professional groups would very likely be rejected by extreme BNs. On the other hand, a black professional group would likely have no idea it had been penetrated by a black professional who is loyal to the BN cause.
I refer, again, to Malcolm's admonishment: By any means necessary. Lie, cheat, steal, deceive. I cannot read the pages of Obama's books without reminding myself that he states, and I quote from memory: Africa offered me the opportunity to be myself - I didn't have to deceive or lie or pretend to be something other than what I am. I do not look forward to my return to America."
Bob
SETI is an interesting character and may or may not have any implications to unfolding events. I have tracked the links between BN sites and they all lead to one another at one level or another. It would be crazy for any revolution to begin on YT videos - just as SETI notes. Hate is common and complaints are common; beyond that the messages being made for YT rarely if ever carry messages they do not want revealed.
There is a Silent Wars video where one of the callers to the program says, "Brothers, you are talking too much. The oppressor gonna pick up on what you sayin' and connect the dots. You got to be careful what you publicly say."
During one of Rev. Wright's rants, a man steps forward, grabs Wright's arm and whispers something in his ear. "I know there's white people in here. I know there's white people in here." Wright's comments could be interpreted as an acknowledgement of his indifference to whites or it could be an acknowledgement of the necessity to conceal certain attitudes and beliefs blacks do not want flowing through the white community.
Among the many things I learned during my investigation of the NOI back in '95 was the fact that the transference of information is highly controlled. The left hand is not allowed to know what the right hand is doing. Communications are direct; more public conversations that could be 'tapped' are laden with 'slave speak'. Farrakhan knows his place in line - as do all BNs - their loyalty to the 'cause' - to black - is enviable. The psychological wars continue - They will be filled with confounding and confusing elements we are forced to wend our way through. I adhere to the idea that the major tenet of BN is adherance and loyalty to 'black' - Sure, there are 'snitches' in the black community. Members of black professional groups would very likely be rejected by extreme BNs. On the other hand, a black professional group would likely have no idea it had been penetrated by a black professional who is loyal to the BN cause.
I refer, again, to Malcolm's admonishment: By any means necessary. Lie, cheat, steal, deceive. I cannot read the pages of Obama's books without reminding myself that he states, and I quote from memory: Africa offered me the opportunity to be myself - I didn't have to deceive or lie or pretend to be something other than what I am. I do not look forward to my return to America."
Bob
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