Hi All, Mr. Sheh,
Hi All, Mr. Sheh,
I'm wondering if we have the same definition of "dexterity
field". The dexterity field is the entirety of the wooden
dexterity apparatus, including the corners. (In the keypad test,
we refer to the center portion of the dexterity field, that
doesn't apply in this test.)
Below are some examples of permitted (green robot) and disallowed
(red robot) positions. Note that while the lower green robot's
outline does extend past the dexterity field, the ground contacts
(for this robot, the center of the wheels) are still on the
dexterity field.
Could you give some examples of positions that you would like to
have allowed that don't match this? Perhaps is there some
confusion because in some cases the linear rail is shown away from
the dexterity field a bit? In the current design it will be right
up against the dexterity field as shown here.
I'm not quite sure how the rule allows the robot to just hang
from the edge. As written:
"A robot is considered to have moved from one level to another if it moves from only being in contact with one level, to only being in contact with the next level, without returning to the previous level for at least 5 seconds (to exclude situations where the robot “bounces” up and down as it attempts to grip the edge of the step as it climbs, momentarily losing contact with the previous level)."
To me this very clearly excludes "just hanging from the edge"
(presumably while still in contact with a previous level) as they
need to go from only touching one level, to only touching another
level, for at least 5 seconds.
What do you mean by "just hang from the edge"?
This is the plan - we're working on finalizing awards now.
I think there is some confusion as the rule you refer to only applies in the finals, where your team-mate, Eli Schr, raised the issue of points inflation. Having the Linear Rail only worth 10 points seemed like a suitable compromise. Note that my insistence on retaining all 5 levels related to the preliminaries (and as currently written that is still the case). While I had hoped to keep the Landolt-C scoring to be the same everywhere, Eli's comment convinced me that this wasn't possible.
Actually I would have preferred to have the finals be for the
smallest and second-smallest Landolt-C but the only feedback I've
received from any team regarding this was Eli's comment that even
within your team there is debate as to if even the second smallest
is too small so we decided that the smallest wouldn't be needed in
the finals (especially as there is so much else to do).
Here is the Landolt-C scoring system for the finals:
Preliminaries:
Linear Rail Inspect: all 5 Landolt-C sizes count. Arguably this is
where being able to see right to the smallest is most important.
Sensor Crate: Only the 3rd ring counts. There's lots to do here so
each sensor test is only worth 1 point.
Finals:
Only the 3rd and 4th largest count (for both Linear Rail and
Sensor Crate) to prevent points inflation. I'm assuming this is
the part of the rulebook you're referring to.
I believe this is covered under "Robot Configuration" under
"Repairs" (where swapping the entire robot is perhaps carrying the
idea of swapping parts to its logical conclusion). As long as the
requirements there are satisfied, then this is fine.
The general requirement is to make sure that the repaired robot
(or replaced robot), going forward, would have no advantage
compared to the old robot.
I've added a clarifying statement to make it clear that a
replacement of a robot is covered under this rule.
I look forward to hearing of how your team, and everyone else,
performs in Salvador! Sadly I won't be there to witness it
first-hand
Cheers!
- Raymond
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