Scoop for David McLoughlin
pink...@my-deja.com
Well, David, you might want to have a look at this little nest of
rockspiders. It's an international paedophile networking website.
I discovered its existence several months ago, and notified the
New Zealand Police who have passed it on to the Department of
Internal Affairs.
As you will see from this site, New Zealand paedophile Gerald Moonen
is a member of this horrid little coven and there is some question
about other international affiliates who have engaged in acts of
child sexual abuse.
It is truly odious. There is no excuse for child sexual abuse and I
have no hesitation in publicising the existence of this site and
the fact that this individual is associated with them.
Craig
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David McLoughlin
>
> http://www.humanbeing.demon.nl/ipceweb/
>
> Well, David, you might want to have a look at this little nest of
> rockspiders.
Thank you. I will pursue tomorrow.
> As you will see from this site, New Zealand paedophile Gerald Moonen
> is a member of this horrid little coven and there is some question
> about other international affiliates who have engaged in acts of
> child sexual abuse.
I've only given this the most cursory glance after dinner. Where in the
site is Moonen?
David McLoughlin
>
> http://www.humanbeing.demon.nl/ipceweb/
>
> Well, David, you might want to have a look at this little nest of
> rockspiders. It's an international paedophile networking website.
> I discovered its existence several months ago, and notified the
> New Zealand Police who have passed it on to the Department of
> Internal Affairs.
>
> As you will see from this site, New Zealand paedophile Gerald Moonen
> is a member of this horrid little coven and there is some question
> about other international affiliates who have engaged in acts of
> child sexual abuse.
>
Well, I spent several hours today investigating Gerald Moonen and yes,
he is a self-professed lover of young boys. No doubt about it. A Dutch
immigrant, he is the head of the Australasian Man-Boy Love Association,
according to the research I have done thanks to Craig's alert.
But Moonen does not appear to have criminal convictions for his lust
after small boys, and nor does the website Craig cites appear to contain
evidence that he is a member of this Dutch pedo group. It just seems to
quote references to some of his (non-criminal) court cases under the
Bill of Rights Act seeking freedom of speech, especially an important
Court of Appeal one.
Unless you can point me directly to something which proves he is a
financial member of this Dutch pedo group, I can't do anything really.
If I just write a story saying his name is mentioned in passing on the
pedo website (which is all I can find so far), it would likely just
encourage other pedophiles to look up and join the outfit.
If you can show me the link to the membership list with his name on it
(I couldn't find that in two hours of churning through the site and
double checking Google, where I found paintings he had done of naked
nine-year-old boys sprawled on their backs with their legs spread), I
can do something fast.
What a sick website, though. I grant you that. Utterly sick. But it is
based in the Netherlands, is perfectly legal under Netherlands law and
probably legal under NZ law so complaints about it to the NZ police and
Internal Affairs will get you nowhere.
Calum Bennachie
"David McLoughlin" <davemcl@NO***damned***SPAMiprolink.co.nz> wrote in
message news:3a5c...@news.iprolink.co.nz...
> pink...@my-deja.com wrote:
> >
> > http://www.humanbeing.demon.nl/ipceweb/
> >
> > Well, David, you might want to have a look at this little nest of
> > rockspiders. It's an international paedophile networking website.
> > I discovered its existence several months ago, and notified the
> > New Zealand Police who have passed it on to the Department of
> > Internal Affairs.
> >
> > As you will see from this site, New Zealand paedophile Gerald Moonen
> > is a member of this horrid little coven and there is some question
> > about other international affiliates who have engaged in acts of
> > child sexual abuse.
> >
>
> Well, I spent several hours today investigating Gerald Moonen and yes,
> he is a self-professed lover of young boys. No doubt about it. A Dutch
> immigrant, he is the head of the Australasian Man-Boy Love Association,
> according to the research I have done thanks to Craig's alert.
>
> But Moonen does not appear to have criminal convictions for his lust
> after small boys, and nor does the website Craig cites appear to contain
> evidence that he is a member of this Dutch pedo group. It just seems to
> quote references to some of his (non-criminal) court cases under the
> Bill of Rights Act seeking freedom of speech, especially an important
> Court of Appeal one.
Thereis a District Court hearing that has been delayed for about two, maybe
three years now over his posession of the Ninth Acolyte, the book which the
OFLC classified many of the pictures as "objectionable". Moonen appealed to
the Board, they agreed with the OFLC. Moonen appealed to teh the High
Court. They agreed with the OFLC and the Board. He then appealed to the
Court of Appeal. They decided that s14 BORA had precedence, and that "only
the worst" of any type of publication can be classified as "objectionable".
They sent it back to the Board. They reviewed the case and came to the same
decision in regards to the photographs in question. The District Court case
proceeded. Moonen again appealed the Boards decision to the High Court,
this time, from what I am given to understand, using a combination of the
s14 BORA and previous Court of Appeal decision on his case, and the Living
Word decision- that the photographs in question do not, strictly speaking
deal with sex, horror, crime, cruelty or violence" and do not portray any of
those activities. His lawyers claim that the photos in question "are no
worse than a parent would have on their mantlepiece". People who have seen
the photos have said that there is *no* parent in NZ that would allow photos
similar to those classified as objectionable to be taken, let alone put them
up on their mantlepiece. Even having the photo's taken could result in
charges of child abuse. The District Court Case is again, pending a
decision from the High Court, or any subsequent Court, in abeyance.
The result of the Moonen v Board of review case was the spur for the Films
Videos and Publications Classification Amendment (Prohibition of Child
Pornography) Bill 2000. During the Select Committee stages, the Society for
the Protection of Community Standards made a written submission, rather
lukewarm, but in favour of the Bill. Their written submission and the
statements made by their representative at the Committee hearing, supported
the Moonen decision, "as part of the necessary process". They also
mentioned the Living Word decision. They are well aware, that if the FVPC
Act is amended, they may lose their right to show videos that promote
discrimination against gays and lesbians. Therefore they submit against a
Bill that would prevent child pornography. I find it absolutely sickening
that a group which support "Community Standards" is willing to sacrifice the
wellbeing of children so that they can continue their vendetta against our
communities.
Through my work I know of some people who only entered that line because of
Moonen, and have admitted they met him before they were 16, but are too
scared of him and his friends to say anything to the police- it was hard
enough to get them to talk to me let alone anyone else. One of the people
who lived with Moonen several years ago was charged with sex with boys under
the age of consent. Moonen avoided being charged, somehow.
> Unless you can point me directly to something which proves he is a
> financial member of this Dutch pedo group, I can't do anything really.
> If I just write a story saying his name is mentioned in passing on the
> pedo website (which is all I can find so far), it would likely just
> encourage other pedophiles to look up and join the outfit.
>
> If you can show me the link to the membership list with his name on it
> (I couldn't find that in two hours of churning through the site and
> double checking Google, where I found paintings he had done of naked
> nine-year-old boys sprawled on their backs with their legs spread), I
> can do something fast.
>
> What a sick website, though. I grant you that. Utterly sick. But it is
> based in the Netherlands, is perfectly legal under Netherlands law and
> probably legal under NZ law so complaints about it to the NZ police and
> Internal Affairs will get you nowhere.
At the moment, there is a loophole in the censorship laws which allows you
to download anything you want from the internet- kiddy porn, rape scenes,
snuff movies, any thing you want- as long as you do not download any of the
pictures *and* save them to your hard disc. Unlike France, NZ cannot
enforce its censorship laws over the internet. France can, and can
prosecute across borders. Australia can as well.
Calum
zenp...@my-deja.com
done all I can, given my commitment to my doctoral thesis at
this point in time. Would it help to investigate the goings on
in Australia? Moonen renamed his coven the "Australasian MBLA"
and there is some mention of Australian efforts against paedophile
groups in that country.
You might want to give Wellington Police's Child Sexual Abuse and
Paedophilia division a call, David and Calum. Good luck, guys.
Craig
Prevention Unit
pink...@my-deja.com
the Wellington Natl.Library archives, I did overnight at Maureen's
place and used her computer this morning. Hence the zenpagan
handle, instead of the pink reptilian one.
Craig
Patrick Dunford
said:
>Well, I spent several hours today investigating Gerald Moonen and yes,
>he is a self-professed lover of young boys. No doubt about it. A Dutch
>immigrant, he is the head of the Australasian Man-Boy Love Association,
>according to the research I have done thanks to Craig's alert.
Aotearoa MBLA? Does it exist any more?
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Calum Bennachie
"Patrick Dunford" <47...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 10 Jan 2001 20:37:02 +1300 AD in nz.soc.queer, David McLoughlin
> said:
>
>
> >Well, I spent several hours today investigating Gerald Moonen and yes,
> >he is a self-professed lover of young boys. No doubt about it. A Dutch
> >immigrant, he is the head of the Australasian Man-Boy Love Association,
> >according to the research I have done thanks to Craig's alert.
>
> Aotearoa MBLA? Does it exist any more?
>
> --
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> Patrick Dunford, Christchurch, NZ - http://pdunford.godzone.net.nz/
According to the vile Moonen, yes. According to his counsel, who, by the
way, is using the Living Word decision to stop kiddie porn from being
classified as objectionable, yes it does. According to others, it is only
Moonen and a couple of his cronies, plus the guy who used to live with
Moonen who is currently a guest of her Majesty (and long may he remain so)
for doing what Moonen promotes. He was also one of the people Moonen
"cultivated", from what I am given to understand. Apparently his girlfriend
went to court every day he appeared.
Calum
Squirrel
>> rockspiders.
>
>Thank you. I will pursue tomorrow.
>
>> As you will see from this site, New Zealand paedophile Gerald Moonen
>> is a member of this horrid little coven and there is some question
>> about other international affiliates who have engaged in acts of
>> child sexual abuse.
>
>I've only given this the most cursory glance after dinner. Where in the
>site is Moonen?
So did anything come of this? I had a look at the site and could not
get over the many words they used to justify their behaviour.
Squirrel
"Homosexuality is God's way of ensuring that the truly
gifted aren't burdened with children" - Sam Austin
pink...@my-deja.com
tri...@xtra.co.nz wrote:
> >> Well, David, you might want to have a look at this little nest of
> >> rockspiders.
> >
> >Thank you. I will pursue tomorrow.
> >
> >> As you will see from this site, New Zealand paedophile Gerald
Moonen
> >> is a member of this horrid little coven and there is some question
> >> about other international affiliates who have engaged in acts of
> >> child sexual abuse.
> >
> >I've only given this the most cursory glance after dinner. Where in
the
> >site is Moonen?
>
> So did anything come of this? I had a look at the site and could not
> get over the many words they used to justify their behaviour.
>
> Squirrel
>
decision in Canada will further affect matters down here- note
the thread in question.
David McLoughlin
>
> >> Well, David, you might want to have a look at this little nest of
> >> rockspiders.
> >
> >Thank you. I will pursue tomorrow.
> >
> >> As you will see from this site, New Zealand paedophile Gerald Moonen
> >> is a member of this horrid little coven and there is some question
> >> about other international affiliates who have engaged in acts of
> >> child sexual abuse.
> >
> >I've only given this the most cursory glance after dinner. Where in the
> >site is Moonen?
>
> So did anything come of this? I had a look at the site and could not
> get over the many words they used to justify their behaviour.
I spent a lot of time going through the site, and while it was
sickening, I couldn't find anything that linked the NZ pervert Moonen to
active membership or whatever of the site organisation in the terms
Craig claimed. All I found was quotations in the site from some NZ court
rulings citing Moonen's various cases.
I need evidence to be able to say someone is doing something. Craig was
unable to point me to the evidence.
Maybe he still can.
pink...@my-deja.com
> I spent a lot of time going through the site, and while it was
> sickening, I couldn't find anything that linked the NZ pervert Moonen
to active membership or whatever of the site organisation in the terms
> Craig claimed. All I found was quotations in the site from some NZ
court rulings citing Moonen's various cases.
>
Look at the meeting notes. Moonen is listed as a participant within
some of the earlier ones.