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David Herkt

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Can we have a hello from the visitors with brief bio so we can get to
know you? I mean you'll get bored with the Colonies soon and we won't
have time to have known you by interaction. So you'll just have to say.
And we're bored tonight. TV is really boring.Its still raining. There
are floods. One of our Coalition Government partners has rolled its
Deputy Leader today. So you'll just have to be entertaining won't you?


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Chris Heathcote

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On Tue, 14 Jul 1998 20:54:37 +1200, David Herkt <dhe...@ihug.co.nz>
wrote:

>Can we have a hello from the visitors with brief bio so we can get to
>know you? I mean you'll get bored with the Colonies soon and we won't
>have time to have known you by interaction. So you'll just have to say.
>And we're bored tonight. TV is really boring.Its still raining. There
>are floods. One of our Coalition Government partners has rolled its
>Deputy Leader today. So you'll just have to be entertaining won't you?

Well you'll've worked out that JohnM is our resident drag act...

At least it's not meant to be summer in NZ atm, (well, hot and sunny if
summer is the wrong term), we're having just awful weather... AND IT'S
JULY!! *bah* I'm thinking of emigrating...

Gawd I hate potted biogs.... In the year of our lord 1779, the Excalibur
set sail from the port of Southampton... or is that going back a bit too
far? OK, just graduated, bumming round London for a couple of months,
before getting a job doing something approaching web development. You
can find details of my oh-so-wild'n'exciting life on me webpages, which
should be shown in my sig.

Toodle-pip, fish'n'chips an' all that
c.
--
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http://www.undergroundlondon.com/bunny/
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Well we can start by listening. But listening deafly."

David Quinton

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On Tue, 14 Jul 1998 20:54:37 +1200, David Herkt <dhe...@ihug.co.nz>
wrote:

>Can we have a hello from the visitors with brief bio so we can get to
>know you? I mean you'll get bored with the Colonies soon and we won't
>have time to have known you by interaction. So you'll just have to say.
>And we're bored tonight. TV is really boring.Its still raining. There
>are floods. One of our Coalition Government partners has rolled its
>Deputy Leader today. So you'll just have to be entertaining won't you?

You're *all* invited too visit us when you're on *your* hols - but I
s'pose that'll be in 6 months time (ie. Summer?)

I'll work on a CV (censors permitting) but my only NZ connection is
that my Aunt left the UK centuries ago and gave birth to hundreds of
children in Tauranga (?sp?). These hundreds of children have now
spawned thousands of offspring - all of whom queue up in their Camper
Vans outside my parents' house in England - hoping to free
accomodation and/or food.

The NZ contingent of my Family therefore do *not* have our address <G>
--
David Quinton - The Business Organisation Ltd.
(but I speak only for myself; and that's E&OE!)
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gor...@pronto.demon.co.uk

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In article <35ab22ad...@news.demon.co.uk>, Chris Heathcote
<spam...@deaddodo.com> writes

>On Tue, 14 Jul 1998 20:54:37 +1200, David Herkt <dhe...@ihug.co.nz>
>wrote:
>
>>Can we have a hello from the visitors with brief bio so we can get to
>>know you? I mean you'll get bored with the Colonies soon and we won't
>>have time to have known you by interaction. So you'll just have to say.
>>And we're bored tonight. TV is really boring.Its still raining. There
>>are floods. One of our Coalition Government partners has rolled its
>>Deputy Leader today. So you'll just have to be entertaining won't you?
>
>Well you'll've worked out that JohnM is our resident drag act...
>
>At least it's not meant to be summer in NZ atm, (well, hot and sunny if
>summer is the wrong term), we're having just awful weather... AND IT'S
>JULY!! *bah* I'm thinking of emigrating...
>
I already did the weather, Chris. Honestly, we English behave so
stereotypically when abroad....

But that bulletin, and obligatory lamb chop recipe, became submerged in
the lightbulb thread just as it mutated into a discussion of that
ultimate Y2k problem: when to have the party. Given that we'll have 366
days in between to recover, I'd vote for both. But for those who had
decided by then to leave that debate to what might be called the
fundamillentalists, a recap.

I moved two years ago from London to Amsterdam, for my job which is in
the media. People still move here, from elsewhere in Europe and beyond,
for what they expect will be sex on tap. Of course you can get it, but
IMHO to live somewhere you need to feel something else for the place
too.

For me the joys include living in a relaxed, sensible sized European
capital where you can get everywhere in 10 minutes; and the water. Canal
boats pass by all the time as I look out, and I'm doing a course in
seamanship at the moment so I can buy myself an old motorboat to chug
around in. Probably won't get that together in time for Canal Pride in
two weeks, where instead of a march a flotilla of 100 craft takes to the
waterways.

This year the event opens the Gay Games, which in the first week of
August will bring an influx of 250,000 lycra-clad LGBs. That's
equivalent to more than a third of the population. The Friendship
Village will be in and around the city hall, which I can see from my
front window.

Loads of parties are of course being organised, with many straight
nightlife places turning queer for the week. Amsterdam has about 70 gay
venues but, like Auckland, only one or two can hold more than 200 or so.

I wondered whether any of you or yours were making the journey over.
Post-Olympic Sydney is down to host the next games in 2002, and I hope
you intend to give the Darlinghurst darlings a run for their money:)

Oh yeah, I read somewhere that, because of immigration in recent
decades, Dutch is spoken by more people in NZ than the Maori tongue. Can
this be true? And is there anyone here who can claim those origins?

--
Gordon
x
x
x


Lin Nah

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Chris Heathcote <spam...@deaddodo.com> wrote:
>On Tue, 14 Jul 1998 20:54:37 +1200, David Herkt <dhe...@ihug.co.nz>
>wrote:

>>Can we have a hello from the visitors with brief bio so we can get to
>>know you? I mean you'll get bored with the Colonies soon and we won't
>>have time to have known you by interaction. So you'll just have to say.
>>And we're bored tonight. TV is really boring.Its still raining. There
>>are floods. One of our Coalition Government partners has rolled its
>>Deputy Leader today. So you'll just have to be entertaining won't you?

>Well you'll've worked out that JohnM is our resident drag act...

>At least it's not meant to be summer in NZ atm, (well, hot and sunny if
>summer is the wrong term), we're having just awful weather... AND IT'S
>JULY!! *bah* I'm thinking of emigrating...

The weather here hasn't been wonderful either.
Strong winds, heavy rain, floods in certain parts of NZ, rivers and dams
overflowing, a cow or two being floated down the "river", more rain,
more wind, I think Wgtn had a tremor today...

Guess you should check the travel forecast before embarking on "travel".

Lin
ps were you guys the same lot that invaded nz.general last year?

David Quinton

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On Tue, 14 Jul 1998 15:26:31 GMT, m...@demon.net (Mark Ynys-Mon) wrote:

>In article <6ofpjf$7...@darkmere.gen.nz>, lin...@nowhere.nz (Lin Nah) spake
>thus:


>
>> ps were you guys the same lot that invaded nz.general last year?
>

>I *very* much doubt it :)

We're very *anti* miltarism, actually <G>

JohnM

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In article <6ofpjf$7...@darkmere.gen.nz>, Lin Nah <lin...@nowhere.nz>
writes
>Lin

>ps were you guys the same lot that invaded nz.general last year?

No, this is our first cyber holiday abroad. But I understand this is
becoming fashionable on the Net now. You must come over sometime
yourselves. But you'll have to suffer LOADSA spam. We have the 'gay'
in the title, see ?

For this reason uk.gay-lesbian-bi has voted to become moderated
and remove commercial spam, binaries and (more controversially)
personals.

Chris H. is one of the moderators-to-be. How is it all progressing ?


JohnM
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JohnM

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In article <35ab44ff...@news.almac.co.uk>, David Quinton
<dav...@NOSPAMpost.almac.co.uk> writes

>I'll work on a CV (censors permitting) but my only NZ connection is
>that my Aunt left the UK centuries ago and gave birth to hundreds of
>children in Tauranga (?sp?).

Hundreds, sweetie ? With a gestation period of nine months she must
have been on her back for centuries.

David E

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David Quinton writes:
>On Tue, 14 Jul 1998 15:26:31 GMT, m...@demon.net (Mark Ynys-Mon) wrote:
>>In article <6ofpjf$7...@darkmere.gen.nz>, lin...@nowhere.nz (Lin Nah) spake
>>thus:
>>
>>> ps were you guys the same lot that invaded nz.general last year?
>>
>>I *very* much doubt it :)
>
>We're very *anti* miltarism, actually <G>
>
Though some of us *may* be uniform-queens! (not me, actually, though I
did have a little crush-ette on a certain police man once...)

:-)
--
David Engert
http://www.gidvuic.demon.co.uk

Philip Valentine

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On Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:49:28 GMT, dav...@NOSPAMpost.almac.co.uk (David
Quinton) wrote:

>On Tue, 14 Jul 1998 20:54:37 +1200, David Herkt <dhe...@ihug.co.nz>
>wrote:
>
>>Can we have a hello from the visitors with brief bio so we can get to
>>know you? I mean you'll get bored with the Colonies soon and we won't
>>have time to have known you by interaction. So you'll just have to say.
>>And we're bored tonight. TV is really boring.Its still raining. There
>>are floods. One of our Coalition Government partners has rolled its
>>Deputy Leader today. So you'll just have to be entertaining won't you?
>

>You're *all* invited too visit us when you're on *your* hols - but I
>s'pose that'll be in 6 months time (ie. Summer?)

Oh yes, Britain in January - watch out for the stampede.

--
Philip Valentine

Hugh Young

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In <H1AxgJA$d1q1...@pronto.demon.co.uk> <gor...@pronto.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

>Oh yeah, I read somewhere that, because of immigration in recent
>decades, Dutch is spoken by more people in NZ than the Maori tongue.
Can
>this be true? And is there anyone here who can claim those origins?

Absolutely false (racist wishful thinking, I'd say). I just got the
figures from Stats NZ: 27,471 speak Dutch. 153,669 speak Maori. That's
among languages spoken, not as first language. And that's "are able to
converse about a variety of subjects" not just a few words of greeting,
but maybe not "fluent".

There was a big influx of Dutch in the 1950s, but nothing special
since.


--
Hugh Young, Pukerua Bay, Nuclear-free Aotearoa / NEW ZEALAND
Only 29 months to the third millennium!


David Quinton

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On Tue, 14 Jul 1998 18:53:40 +0100, JohnM <jo...@scroll.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

>In article <35ab44ff...@news.almac.co.uk>, David Quinton
><dav...@NOSPAMpost.almac.co.uk> writes
>>I'll work on a CV (censors permitting) but my only NZ connection is
>>that my Aunt left the UK centuries ago and gave birth to hundreds of
>>children in Tauranga (?sp?).
>
>Hundreds, sweetie ? With a gestation period of nine months she must
>have been on her back for centuries.

In fact, it has been reported that, single-handed (well - with a
little help from an uncle or ten), she is entirely responsible for
populating a hitherto totally *unknown* and *undiscovered* part of
that Island..... <G>

Lin Nah

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On Tue, 14 Jul 1998 18:53:40 +0100, JohnM <jo...@scroll.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

>In article <35ab44ff...@news.almac.co.uk>, David Quinton
><dav...@NOSPAMpost.almac.co.uk> writes
>>I'll work on a CV (censors permitting) but my only NZ connection is
>>that my Aunt left the UK centuries ago and gave birth to hundreds of
>>children in Tauranga (?sp?).
>
>Hundreds, sweetie ? With a gestation period of nine months she must
>have been on her back for centuries.

Wll not if she has a tendency to have twins, triplets, quintuplets etc

grin
Lin

JohnM

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In article <35ac8f6e...@news.auckland.ac.nz>, Lin Nah
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Dear me, was she producing babies or piglets ?


JohnM
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belial

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David Herkt wrote in message <35AB1C...@ihug.co.nz>...

>Can we have a hello from the visitors with brief bio so we can get to
>know you?
------------------
Good as gold, mate!!

JohnM

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In article <900593320.9214.0...@news.demon.co.uk>, belial
<bel...@impulseillusions.demon.co.uk> writes

Actually belial I am not sure I know you. Have you
delurked in the UK ? Pardon me if you have, there
are quite a few of us there.

Harlequin

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On Tue, 14 Jul 1998 21:29:42 GMT, Philip Valentine wrote:

>On Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:49:28 GMT, David Quinton wrote:
>>On Tue, 14 Jul 1998 20:54:37 +1200, David Herkt wrote:
>>>Can we have a hello from the visitors with brief bio so we can get to
>>>know you? I mean you'll get bored with the Colonies soon and we won't
>>>have time to have known you by interaction. So you'll just have to say.
>>>And we're bored tonight. TV is really boring.Its still raining. There
>>>are floods. One of our Coalition Government partners has rolled its
>>>Deputy Leader today. So you'll just have to be entertaining won't you?
>>
>>You're *all* invited too visit us when you're on *your* hols - but I
>>s'pose that'll be in 6 months time (ie. Summer?)
>
>Oh yes, Britain in January - watch out for the stampede.

I've met quite a few kiwis in London, and found most of them to be lovely
people.

I've heard that kiwis do a lot of travelling, though. Is the desire to
experience other cultures particularly strong in your country?

H.
--
Veni Vidi Castratavi Illegitimos

David Herkt

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Harlequin wrote:

>
> I've heard that kiwis do a lot of travelling, though. Is the desire to
> experience other cultures particularly strong in your country?
>

When you are born in a country that is approximately 3,000 km from its
nearest neighbour, where your very country's name is inclined to be used
as a synonym for remoteness, when as a consequence of our British
colonial heritage where are taught that NZ is the furtherest one can get
from the Motherland, when you live in a country whose human history is a
bare 800 years, when you live in a country whose population is 3.6
million people and you seem to know anyone of your generation or you
went to a party with their brother once, yes you are inclined to desire
travel...

JohnM

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In article <35AF3A...@ihug.co.nz>, David Herkt <dhe...@ihug.co.nz>
writes

>Harlequin wrote:
>
>>
>> I've heard that kiwis do a lot of travelling, though. Is the desire to
>> experience other cultures particularly strong in your country?
>>
>
>When you are born in a country that is approximately 3,000 km from its
>nearest neighbour, where your very country's name is inclined to be used
>as a synonym for remoteness, when as a consequence of our British
>colonial heritage where are taught that NZ is the furtherest one can get
>from the Motherland, when you live in a country whose human history is a
>bare 800 years, when you live in a country whose population is 3.6
>million people

you didn't add as is customary 'and 60 million sheep' :-)

Have you ever been to Europe David ?


JohnM
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who's facing him" - DAVID PLEAT (World Cup)

David Herkt

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JohnM wrote:
>
> In article <35AF3A...@ihug.co.nz>, David Herkt <dhe...@ihug.co.nz>
> writes
> >Harlequin wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> I've heard that kiwis do a lot of travelling, though. Is the desire to
> >> experience other cultures particularly strong in your country?
> >>
> >
> >When you are born in a country that is approximately 3,000 km from its
> >nearest neighbour, where your very country's name is inclined to be used
> >as a synonym for remoteness, when as a consequence of our British
> >colonial heritage where are taught that NZ is the furtherest one can get
> >from the Motherland, when you live in a country whose human history is a
> >bare 800 years, when you live in a country whose population is 3.6
> >million people
>
> you didn't add as is customary 'and 60 million sheep' :-)
>
> Have you ever been to Europe David ?

Yes, but only temporarily. I am a terrible tourist and my preference is
to move somewhere and actually live there instead of being peripatetic (
you know from hotel to motel to back-backers and lets do Derby today and
the Fish Market and gosh we have the Lake District tomorrow morning but
its raining and how did Wordsworth even see the bloody daffs we can't
even see the road and yes now are in Scotland but the only Tattoo I'm
interested in is the one on that bicep but I did not realise Scots spoke
a foreign language, maybe I should just mime what I want, but already I
can see that this particular local is going to take a three day
seduction before succumbing and I've only got two... ). No, I am a
terrible tourist. I get nasty after about a week. I do not like sights
generally and end up by being sarcastic. I have also spent ten years of
my life in hotel rooms and red-eye long haul flights, which has cured me
of any glamour to be found in the phenomenon. If you are offering me
rent-free accomodation for a year, I would consider returning, though I
would probably prefer Italy because I like it even though I find Italian
men intimidatingly good-looking.

David Herkt

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David Herkt wrote:

>If you are offering me
> rent-free accomodation for a year, I would consider returning, though I
> would probably prefer Italy because I like it even though I find Italian
> men intimidatingly good-looking.

I forgot Eastern Europe. How could I have done that? I do not like
categorising countries in terms of the sexual attractiveness of their
inhabitants, but mmmm Prague, yum, and those nice Poles (that's
inhabitants of Poland OK?)....

JohnM

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In article <35AFBE...@ihug.co.nz>, David Herkt <dhe...@ihug.co.nz>
writes

> If you are offering me
>rent-free accomodation for a year, I would consider returning, though I
>would probably prefer Italy because I like it even though I find Italian
>men intimidatingly good-looking.

Errrmm... yeah, Italy, sweetie, Italy, yep, you're right.
I recommend you go there...*phew*

JohnM

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In article <35AFC1...@ihug.co.nz>, David Herkt <dhe...@ihug.co.nz>
writes

>I forgot Eastern Europe. How could I have done that? I do not like
>categorising countries in terms of the sexual attractiveness of their
>inhabitants, but mmmm Prague, yum, and those nice Poles (that's
>inhabitants of Poland OK?)....

Indeed but Prague has nowt to do with Poland except that it
starts with a 'p'.

David Herkt

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JohnM wrote:
>
> In article <35AFC1...@ihug.co.nz>, David Herkt <dhe...@ihug.co.nz>
> writes
> >I forgot Eastern Europe. How could I have done that? I do not like
> >categorising countries in terms of the sexual attractiveness of their
> >inhabitants, but mmmm Prague, yum, and those nice Poles (that's
> >inhabitants of Poland OK?)....
>
> Indeed but Prague has nowt to do with Poland except that it
> starts with a 'p'.


That was a wilful misreading, John Malathronas. There was a comma
between Prague and Poles, even if they are all Greeks between the sheets
in my experience....

Matthew Malthouse

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In article <35AB1C...@ihug.co.nz>,

David Herkt <dhe...@ihug.co.nz> wrote:

} Can we have a hello from the visitors with brief bio so we can get to
} know you? I mean you'll get bored with the Colonies soon and we won't
} have time to have known you by interaction. So you'll just have to say.
} And we're bored tonight. TV is really boring.Its still raining. There
} are floods. One of our Coalition Government partners has rolled its
} Deputy Leader today. So you'll just have to be entertaining won't you?

Sorry, I've come late to this party. Subscribed when John suggested it but
since have had Hell Week at work, Now seeing if I can plow through the
backlog.

Um, biog? Born '63, Essex. Ex-virgin at 15. Left home at 21. Went to Uni at
24. Moved to London in '93. Working for the IT dept of The Guardian and The
Observer newspapers.

Not much is it?

Matthew

--
"Homo sum: humani nihil a me alienum puto"
http://www.calmeilles.demon.co.uk/index.html


David Herkt

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Matthew Malthouse wrote:

> Sorry, I've come late to this party.

Thats OK, we were bored with the others...

Subscribed when John suggested it

Hmm, JohnM is the bossy one isn't he. The Tour-bus guide from Hell.

>but
> since have had Hell Week at work,

I think we all did. I find these global currents interesting. when
everyone is having bad hair day everyone is, if you know what I mean. I
feel charting these mysterious mass-movements, their causes and effects,
would be a laudable enterprise for someone.

> Um, biog? Born '63, Essex. Ex-virgin at 15. Left home at 21. Went to Uni at
> 24. Moved to London in '93. Working for the IT dept of The Guardian and The
> Observer newspapers.
>
> Not much is it?

Sounds Ok to me. I've read worse. Are you a techie boy in the IT area
i.e. the T, or are you more interested in the I?

And how did the losing the virginity occur in what region of the UK?

> --
> "Homo sum: humani nihil a me alienum puto"

And all these Latin sigs. Are they in fashion? Yours is the second or
third such I have read recently. Is the public school outing itself in
the grown-up persona? I have several projected versions of yours wanna
share the translation?

> http://www.calmeilles.demon.co.uk/index.html

And what an infuriating web-site. Got bored very bloody quickly.
Entertaining concept but the practice is annoying.But still I like
alliterative names and you have one Mathew Malthouse.

Matthew Malthouse

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In article <35B14F...@ihug.co.nz>,
David Herkt <dhe...@ihug.co.nz> wrote:

} Matthew Malthouse wrote:
}
} > Sorry, I've come late to this party.
}
} Thats OK, we were bored with the others...
}
} > Subscribed when John suggested it
}
} Hmm, JohnM is the bossy one isn't he. The Tour-bus guide from Hell.

Duck when you say things like that. :)



} >but
} > since have had Hell Week at work,
}
} I think we all did. I find these global currents interesting. when
} everyone is having bad hair day everyone is, if you know what I mean. I
} feel charting these mysterious mass-movements, their causes and effects,
} would be a laudable enterprise for someone.

There does seem to be some cycle, and a widely shared one at that. I
shouldn't make predictions as they never come true, but based on past
performance I'm due a couple of quiet weeks just about now.



} > Um, biog? Born '63, Essex. Ex-virgin at 15. Left home at 21. Went to
Uni at
} > 24. Moved to London in '93. Working for the IT dept of The Guardian and
The
} > Observer newspapers.
} >
} > Not much is it?
}
} Sounds Ok to me. I've read worse. Are you a techie boy in the IT area
} i.e. the T, or are you more interested in the I?

Well I read Arts at Uni, but fell into techiedom by a series of accidents.
I used to be "Advertising Systems Manager" but the powers that be
reorganised us, changed the titles etc. Things that were supposed to make
everything more efficient and everybody happier but naturally it's all just
the same in every significant aspect.

I have multiple hats. As a systems man I sit waiting for the phone to ring
with some l^Huser on the other end and then fix whatever they've broken. As
a manager I sort of supervise others doing the same (this means sitting
back and letting them get on with what they know and just poking my nose in
sufficienty to be able to compose a coherant report). As a Unix person I'm
on call to fix servers and such during production runs. I also admin the
usenet server at work. Mostly this means rebooting it and uttering
plaintive cries about its inadequacies, my boss' stinginess in not giving
me a replacement and speculating improbably on how I'm going to achieve the
two years overdue upgrade. :(

I actually started working for papers in a local up north, we had a press
in the building so seeing the product created each night was a thrill that
never palled. Alas now our print works are some miles away but actually
producing something each day is still a satisfaction (even if the contents
aren't always something to be proud of).



} And how did the losing the virginity occur in what region of the UK?

Fairly traditionally. In a haystack, with a girl foru years older than me,
in the south of France. Then with a lad in the middle of a forest fire on
the same holiday. Nothing spectacular.



} > "Homo sum: humani nihil a me alienum puto"

"I am a man; nothing human is alien to me", or in other words I feel
justified in letting my curiosity roam anywhere. It's also good (IMHO) for
the pun value on a queer group which is where I post most frequently.

} > http://www.calmeilles.demon.co.uk/index.html
}
} And what an infuriating web-site. Got bored very bloody quickly.
} Entertaining concept but the practice is annoying.But still I like
} alliterative names and you have one Mathew Malthouse.

Ah, well there are disadvantages to being too quick off the mark. Once I
dreamed up the concept I loved the idea so much that I couldn't resist
firing the home page up onto the site. The probelem now is that I've not
had time to write up the actual content.

There are some pages that are not available from the front
http://www.calmeilles.demon.co.uk/pride/parispride97.html
http://www.calmeilles.demon.co.uk/pride/parispride98.html
About adventures in Paris the last two years.
http://www.calmeilles.demon.co.uk/pride/plan.html
About our plans for our Pride, now past. The plans more or less came off.
I've been hoping other people would write up that day's events, but few
have.

Uh? Does that answer your questions? :)

Matthew

--
"Homo sum: humani nihil a me alienum puto"

http://www.calmeilles.demon.co.uk/index.html


JohnM

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In article <35B116...@ihug.co.nz>, David Herkt <dhe...@ihug.co.nz>

writes
>JohnM wrote:
>>
>> In article <35AFC1...@ihug.co.nz>, David Herkt <dhe...@ihug.co.nz>
>> writes
>> >I forgot Eastern Europe. How could I have done that? I do not like
>> >categorising countries in terms of the sexual attractiveness of their
>> >inhabitants, but mmmm Prague, yum, and those nice Poles (that's
>> >inhabitants of Poland OK?)....
>>
>> Indeed but Prague has nowt to do with Poland except that it
>> starts with a 'p'.
>
>
>That was a wilful misreading, John Malathronas.

I know :-)

I see you've been to my site :-)

JohnM
--------------------- Football Comments # 54 ----------------------
"The good news for Nigeria is that they're two-nil down very early
in the game" - KEVIN KEEGAN (World Cup)

JohnM

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In article <35B14F...@ihug.co.nz>, David Herkt <dhe...@ihug.co.nz>
writes

>Matthew Malthouse wrote:
>
>> Sorry, I've come late to this party.
>
>Thats OK, we were bored with the others...
>
>Subscribed when John suggested it
>
>Hmm, JohnM is the bossy one isn't he.

Well, uk.gay-lesbian-bi, the newsgroup where
submission dominates...

bad...@void.demon.co.uk

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On Sun, 19 Jul 1998 13:45:28 +1200, David Herkt <dhe...@ihug.co.nz>
enlightened us enchantingly thus:


>> http://www.calmeilles.demon.co.uk/index.html
>
>And what an infuriating web-site. Got bored very bloody quickly.
>Entertaining concept but the practice is annoying.But still I like
>alliterative names and you have one Mathew Malthouse.


Oh *well* if we are floggin' our websites..

http://www.void.demon.co.uk


Vicky

*****************************
Survey Report: Parallel Earth, resources negligible.

Here be dragons.....

David Herkt

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JohnM wrote:

>
> I see you've been to my site :-)
>

Yes I am presently in Lake Titicaca and looking forward to the next bit
of sex. But no vivid erotic details? We get all the build-up but no Main
Event... Oh, yeah, the travel details are interesting as well.

Harlequin

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On Sun, 19 Jul 1998 09:39:46 +0100, Matthew Malthouse wrote:
>David Herkt <dhe...@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
>} Matthew Malthouse wrote:
...

>} > Um, biog? Born '63, Essex. Ex-virgin at 15. Left home at 21. Went to Uni at
>} > 24. Moved to London in '93. Working for the IT dept of The Guardian and The
>} > Observer newspapers.
...

>} And how did the losing the virginity occur in what region of the UK?
>
>Fairly traditionally. In a haystack, with a girl foru years older than me,
>in the south of France. Then with a lad in the middle of a forest fire on
>the same holiday. Nothing spectacular.
...

>There are some pages that are not available from the front
...

> http://www.calmeilles.demon.co.uk/pride/plan.html
>About our plans for our Pride, now past. The plans more or less came off.
>I've been hoping other people would write up that day's events, but few
>have.
...

Losing your gay virginity in the middle of a forest fire sounds somewhat
spectacular to me :-).

Oh, and you've reminded me. I don't think Kenny would mind me posting the
address of his site. There's some Pride stuff at
http://www.kennyp.clara.net/mary/pride98/, including pictures of a few of us.

JohnM

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In article <35B2DE...@ihug.co.nz>, David Herkt <dhe...@ihug.co.nz>
writes

>JohnM wrote:
>
>>
>> I see you've been to my site :-)
>>
>
>Yes I am presently in Lake Titicaca and looking forward to the next bit
>of sex. But no vivid erotic details? We get all the build-up but no Main
>Event... Oh, yeah, the travel details are interesting as well.
>

As the title says: No Sex till Santiago...

And I'm not that kind of guy - why cheap titillation is not
my aim. :-)


JohnM
--------------------- Football Comments # 55 ----------------------
"Adams is stretching himself, looking for Seaman" -
BRIAN MOORE (World Cup)

David Herkt

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Matthew Malthouse wrote:

> }
> >I find these global currents interesting. when
> > everyone is having bad hair day everyone is, if you know what I >>mean. I
> } feel charting these mysterious mass-movements, their causes and effects,
> } would be a laudable enterprise for someone.
>
> There does seem to be some cycle, and a widely shared one at that. I
> shouldn't make predictions as they never come true, but based on past
> performance I'm due a couple of quiet weeks just about now.

Wm Burroughs has a nice theory about this, concerning calendars of
influence like the Mayan calendar where certain events in three cycles
occurred regularly enabling their priests to predict what people would
feel and do each day. Burroughs talks about the modern media as being
one such cycle of influence. for example today is a full moon day, it is
a Monday, the newpaper has news about murder thus I will feel like
killing my boss. Know the input information and you know the output
consequence.


>
> } And how did the losing the virginity occur in what region of the UK?
>
> Fairly traditionally. In a haystack, with a girl foru years older than me,
> in the south of France. Then with a lad in the middle of a forest fire on
> the same holiday. Nothing spectacular.

But Winner of the Annual Best Story About Losing Viginity goes to this
one I think. Anyone top that? That forest fire is pretty good....

Charles Eggen

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On Wed, 22 Jul 1998 00:49:22 +1200, David Herkt <dhe...@ihug.co.nz>
wrote:

>Matthew Malthouse wrote:

Germany - 1957
I attended a party at the non-com club and did some dancing with both
males and females in between the drinking. When I decided that I had
better leave before someone had to carry me out, the chaplains'
assistant put the make on me and suggested we go somewhere private.
I agreed and we ended up in the basement of the post chapel where we
69d for half and hour before heading back to our barracks. I could say
that the booze made me do it, but I remember it all and I saw him from
time to time after that, although no further sexual encounters and
never had any regrets. We were probably both just horny enough to
take the chance on not being found out. They would have locked us up
and thrown away the keys, if discovered. Yes, it was my first although
I was 19. By todays' standards I would be considered the world's
oldest virgin.

Chuck

"Know what the square root of sixty-nine is?
'Eight something'."

Harlequin

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On Mon, 20 Jul 1998 06:44:46 GMT, Harlequin wrote:
...

>Oh, and you've reminded me. I don't think Kenny would mind me posting the
>address of his site. There's some Pride stuff at
>http://www.kennyp.clara.net/mary/pride98/, including pictures of a few of us.

Errr... which has now changed to
http://www.muckypup.clara.net/mary/pride98/picnic.htm .

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