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Vertigo

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May 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/7/99
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I have been in town a short while, and need to get extremely fit for my
wedding at the end of the year (no jokes please :D)
What is the best, fun-est, exciting-est, friendly-est, fittest, cheapest
(very important that one ... the wedding is killing me!) with least amount
of morons who enjoy hurting other people ... what is the best martial arts
club in or near the city?
Thanks!

Che Clapham

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May 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/7/99
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Zen Do Kai
They only have four belts, and do boxing, tai boxing and tali stick
fighting.
They run camps, and club evenings, it's a real team experience.
I'll find the number of the nerest club if you tell where?

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Moz(Chris Moseley)

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May 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/7/99
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Vertigo wrote in
>I have been in town a short while, and need to get extremely fit for my
>wedding at the end of the year (no jokes please :D)

Aikido is quite good - there are a couple of clubs in the phone book.
It's a wrestling form, so you do a lot more work on how to roll properly
than how to kick someone in the head. I like it, not least because I'm
not especially into hitting people.

Moz


Che Clapham

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May 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/7/99
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Ah, Yes Throwing people around is one thing but what happens when you get
jumped by six or seven, in fact when was the last time I gon in to a fight,
all martial artists train and lern how to fight so they don't have to.
Zen do kai is a very active style and invovles alot of Aikido throughs and
holds.
It hails from OZ, and was created back in the earily 70's, and means "best
of the best in progression" meaning that the style is continuously change as
new moves are add and others removed so you get a very wide range of
traning.
EXAMPLE the first karta you learn is the equivlent of a black belt karta of
a nother style.

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> I have been in town a short while, and need to get extremely fit for my
> wedding at the end of the year (no jokes please :D)

Moz(Chris Moseley)

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May 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/7/99
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Che Clapham wrote
>Ah, Yes Throwing people around is one thing but what happens when you get
>jumped by six or seven, in fact when was the last time I gon in to a fight,

I have to say that the last time I got into a fight was about 10 years
ago now. If you like fights, then sure, aikido is perhaps not the
best art. It's not very aggressive at all. But as far as dealing with
multiple attackers, it's not so bad. Give yourself five or ten years
and you should have a black belt and be competant to escape from
five attackers.

What aikido at even a low level gives you is confidence and some
basic techniques to get away from or immobilise an attacker. The
four basic holds plus three or four basic throws should be familiar
after six months, and those will get you out of most situations.
Simply having the confidence to fall correctly will help a lot,
and knowing what you can do when you do get attacked will generally
give more people a bit more confidence.

>Zen do kai is a very active style and invovles alot of Aikido throughs and
>holds.

I presume that was "throws". Yes, zen do kai is a recent art, one of the
street-fighting forms. Aikido is not quite that recent, but it's not as
old as, say, judo. Aikido "borrows" from judo and a variety of other forms,
as do most non-strict arts. I've done both judo and aikido, and found aikido
slightly more to my liking.

>EXAMPLE the first kata you learn is the equivalent of a black belt kata of
>a nother style.

Sort of like "bobs army: you learn shooting with artillery". I find that
somewhat scary. The reason for delaying some kata is that it takes skill
to resolve the form safely, and frequently because aikido is not primarily
about hitting people, it's about defending yourself and restraining people.

If you do want a striking form, how about ninjitsu? Darn, I think that's
it - it's close to aikido, but with more emphasis on striking forms and
maiming or killing your partner.

Moz


tri...@home.nowhere.com

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May 7, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/7/99
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>I have to say that the last time I got into a fight was about 10 years
>ago now. If you like fights, then sure, aikido is perhaps not the
>best art. It's not very aggressive at all. But as far as dealing with
>multiple attackers, it's not so bad. Give yourself five or ten years
>and you should have a black belt and be competant to escape from
>five attackers.

*grin* this has nothing to do with it all, but my ummm errrr him up
stairs is a black belt in aikido. He is really weedy but he is one of
the most highly qualified ppl in NZ. And if you tell him
I said he was weedy, I will deny it, absolutely *bptg*

Tricia

Jon Angelo

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May 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/9/99
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*grin* Hi Chris!
I have had experience with both ZenDoKai and Aikedo when younger, and
horrifyingly enough, both yours and Che's comments are true. (Admittedly
yours has better spelling than Che's :D)
ZDK really is a younger persons martial art ... there really arent going to
be many 80 year olds willing to put their body through the damage required
to enjoy ZDK, while (please correct me if I'm wrong) wasn't Aikedo started
by someone in their 60's? (I said I had had experience in both ... I didn't
say I was good at them. Perhaps I should stay well away from both!)
I'm sorry to say that the 'ninjitsu' idea was particularly soured by a group
calling themselves ninjitsus in Christchurch ... I am sure that there is no
association in any way, but I cannot bring myself to have anything to do
with them (without laughing!)

I live in the Wadestown area, but work in the CBD ... When, Where, How are
the meetings for both aikedo and ZDK? I cannot promise to rush to the next
meeting (time and budget constraints, unfortunately!) but I am keen to check
out the respective Welln branches.
Cheers
Jon from Vertigo

Innuendo

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May 9, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/9/99
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Ulimtately there is no best Martial Art's club around. It all pends upon
personal preference. However I can think of a few Martial Art's that i know
that fit into that catergory that you seek.

The ones I can think that you may well enjoy are Wu Shu Tai Chi and Shaolin
Kung Fu which is taught by Master Shi Mei Ling - who ultimately taught the
infamous Jet Lei his stuff. She is a very good teacher and her Shaolin
classes are becoming popular - i should know i train with her. The good
thing about Shaolin and co. is that there are no belts and no idiots wanting
to beat each other up and best of all both Shaolin and Tai Chi have a very
good history. Shaolin is non contact and you learn in a fun atmosphere. Tai
Chi is good for the mind and body and will keep you fit, however the cost of
Shaolin is $10 per class - it may seem expensive but it really is worth
while.

Another Martial Art of which i have personal experience with is Rhee
Taekwondo - Rhee Taekwondo is a non contact Tae Kwondo which places emphasis
on technique and stances and we do not do tournaments. Rhee Taekwondo is
huge in Australia and is big in Wellington - training centres in Wellington
East, Rongatai College, Karori, Newlands, Lower Hutt and Wanganui.

I hold a 1st dan in Rhee Taekwondo and I also am currently doing Shaolin
Kung Fu. I would have to say that forme Shaolin Kung Fu is the most vigorous
and yet the most fun i have ever had in learning a Martial Art, theres
nothing that keeps you in awe when you watch the likes of students doing the
Praying Mantis form or other forms.

Shi Mei Ling Shaolin recently performed in the Asia 2000 festival and the
Malaysia festival.

Moz(Chris Moseley)

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May 10, 1999, 3:00:00 AM5/10/99
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Jon Angelo wrote
>wasn't Aikedo started by someone in their 60's?

I too seem to recall that. It's defintely a form that can be done
as a nonlow-impact sport, and the oldest practicioner I've met was
in their late 50's.

Unfortunately I'm not in NZ and have no idea who in Wellington
teaches Aikido, but I know that there are at least two clubs and
I've heard good reports on both.

You could start at David Lynch's Aikido links page:
http://www.act.co.nz/aikido/aikilink.htm
There's also aclub at Victoria Uni, by the look of it. I just plugged
"aikido wellington" into yahoo and went from there.

http://www.karate.co.nz/nzdir/html/wellington.html
despite the karate link this is actually a good site to look at for
those lurkers who are curious about aikido. I recall with amusement
that indeed the attacker (uke, pronounced ew-kay) in Aikido is
essentially there to take the fall in contrast to, say, jeet kune do
where the attacker is the active partner.

HTH
Moz


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