. Jewish Tel Aviv University, Dr Sand asks “When and How Was the Jewish People Invented?” = At the turn of the 20th century
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No one is more surprised than Shlomo Sand that his latest academic
work has spent 19 weeks on Israel’s bestseller list — and that
success
has come to the history professor despite his book challenging
Israel’s biggest taboo.
Dr Shlomo Sand argues that the idea of a Jewish nation — whose need
for a safe haven was originally used to justify the founding of the
state of Israel — is a myth invented little more than a century ago.
An expert on European history at Tel Aviv University, Dr Sand drew on
extensive historical and archaeological research to support not only
this claim but several more — all equally controversial.
In addition, he argues that the Jews were never exiled from the Holy
Land, that most of today’s Jews have no historical connection to the
land called Israel and that the only political solution to the
country’s conflict with the Palestinians is to abolish the Jewish
state.
The success of “When and How Was the Jewish People Invented?” looks
likely to be repeated around the world. A French edition, launched
last month, is selling so fast that it has already had three print
runs.
http://www.wariscrime.com/2008/10/17/news/shlomo-sand-when-and-how-was-the-jewish-people-invented/
Translations are under way into a dozen languages, including Arabic
and English. But he predicted a rough ride from the pro-Israel lobby
when the book is launched by his English publisher, Verso, in the
United States next year.
>
> In contrast, he said Israelis had been, if not exactly supportive, at
> least curious about his argument. Tom Segev, one of the country’s
> leading journalists, has called the book “fascinating and
> challenging”.
>
> Surprisingly, Dr Sand said, most of his academic colleagues in Israel
> have shied away from tackling his arguments. One exception is Israel
> Bartal, a professor of Jewish history at Hebrew University in
> Jerusalem. Writing in Haaretz, the Israeli daily newspaper, Dr Bartal
> made little effort to rebut Dr Sand’s claims. Paradoxically, he
> dedicated much of his article instead to defending his profession. He
> suggested that Israeli historians were not as ignorant about the
> invented nature of Jewish history as Dr Sand contends.
>
> The idea for the book had come to him many years ago, Dr Sand said,
> but he waited until recently to start working on it. “I cannot claim
> to be particularly courageous in publishing the book now,” he said. “I
> waited until I was a full professor. There is a price to be paid in
> Israeli academia for expressing views of this sort.”
>
> Dr Sand’s main argument is that until little more than a century ago,
> Jews thought of themselves as Jews only because they shared a common
> religion. At the turn of the 20th century, he said, Zionist Jews
> challenged this idea and started creating a national history by
> inventing the idea that Jews existed as a people separate from their
> religion.
>
Equally, the modern Zionist idea of Jews being obligated to return
from exile to the Promised Land was entirely alien to Judaism, he
added.
“Zionism changed the idea of Jerusalem. Before, the holy places were
seen as places to long for, not to be lived in. For 2,000 years Jews
stayed away from Jerusalem not because they could not return but
because their religion forbade them from returning until the messiah
came.”
The biggest surprise during his research came when he started looking
at the archaeological evidence from the biblical era.
“I was not raised as a Zionist, but like all other Israelis I took it
for granted that the Jews were a people living in Judea and that they
were exiled by the Romans in 70 AD.
“But once I started looking at the evidence, I discovered that the
kingdoms of David and Solomon were legends.
“Similarly with the exile. In fact, you can’t explain Jewishness
without exile. But when I started to look for history books
describing
the events of this exile, I couldn’t find any. Not one.
http://www.wariscrime.com/2008/10/17/news/shlomo-sand-when-and-how-was-the-jewish-people-invented/
>
> “That was because the Romans did not exile people. In fact, Jews in
> Palestine were overwhelming peasants and all the evidence suggests
> they stayed on their lands.”
>
> Instead, he believes an alternative theory is more plausible: the
> exile was a myth promoted by early Christians to recruit Jews to the
> new faith. “Christians wanted later generations of Jews to believe
> that their ancestors had been exiled as a punishment from God.”
>
http://www.wariscrime.com/2008/10/17/news/shlomo-sand-when-and-how-was-the-jewish-people-invented/
Bob Hawke
filthy Paki camel driver.
He spots the gin and seeing that her fanny is fly-blown, decides to give her
one up the arse.
Some of his spunk seeps through and a few months later Malcom Fabian enters
the world through that fly blown orifice.
At birth Malcom received a good dose of blow fly eggs and freshly hatched
maggots.
It is a well known fact that abbos are not known for their bravery. In fact
history has proven that they are culturally a COWARDLY race.
Hence their propensity to beat up old ladies, rape and even murder them.
History can provide numerous instances of this.
Now lets look at Malcom's Paki heritage.
It is also a well documented fact that Pakis are not the bravest souls on
this earth. In fact they are a down right cowardly lot. Hence there
propensity to blow other people up with bombs strapped to themselves.
Just look at recent events in India where Paki trained and bred Islamic shit
massacared dozens of innocent civilians in Lahore, India.
Now when you put these two lots of genes together you end up with a super
cowardly race of individuals just like Malcom Fabian of 5 Pfieffer Court, Mt
Barker, South Australia.
Malcom sees NOTHING WRONG with Islamic radicals like this arselifter at Fort
Hood, Nidal Malik Hasan, who murdered more than a dozen individuals. Malcom
in fact applauds this COWARDLY action.
Malcom's dementure is further exacerbated by the fact that he has become
obsessed by the Islam cult and as a result of his arselifting ways, the blow
flies have thrived in his arse especially due to the fact that there are
numerous TAG-NUTS surrounding his un-wiped arse.
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Jonathan Cook | Information Clearing House via The Truth Seeker
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>
> No one is more surprised than Shlomo Sand that his latest academic
> work has spent 19 weeks on Israel’s bestseller list — and that
> success
> has come to the history professor despite his book challenging
> Israel’s biggest taboo.
>
Dr Shlomo Sand argues that the idea of a Jewish nation — whose need
for a safe haven was originally used to justify the founding of the
state of Israel — is a myth invented little more than a century ago.
An expert on European history at Tel Aviv University, Dr Sand drew
on
extensive historical and archaeological research to support not only
this claim but several more — all equally controversial.
In addition, he argues that the Jews were never exiled from the Holy
Land, that most of today’s Jews have no historical connection to the
land called Israel and that the only political solution to the
country’s conflict with the Palestinians is to abolish the Jewish
state.
>
> The success of “When and How Was the Jewish People Invented?” looks
> likely to be repeated around the world. A French edition, launched
> last month, is selling so fast that it has already had three print
> runs.http://www.wariscrime.com/2008/10/17/news/shlomo-sand-when-and-how-wa...
> the events of this exile, I couldn’t find any. Not one.http://www.wariscrime.com/2008/10/17/news/shlomo-sand-when-and-how-wa...
>
> > “That was because the Romans did not exile people. In fact, Jews in
> > Palestine were overwhelming peasants and all the evidence suggests
> > they stayed on their lands.”
>
> > Instead, he believes an alternative theory is more plausible: the
> > exile was a myth promoted by early Christians to recruit Jews to the
> > new faith. “Christians wanted later generations of Jews to believe
> > that their ancestors had been exiled as a punishment from God.”
>
> http://www.wariscrime.com/2008/10/17/news/shlomo-sand-when-and-how-wa...
Bob Hawke
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The Invention of the Jewish People (Hebrew: ?מתי ואיך הומצא העם
היהודי Matai ve’ech humtza ha’am hayehudi?, literally When and How
was the Jewish People Invented?) is a book on the historiography of
the origins of the Jewish people by professor Shlomo Sand, a Tel Aviv
University historian. The English translation was published by Verso
Books in October 2009.[1] The book is considered controversial.[2]
The book was in the best-seller list in Israel for 19 weeks and
quickly went to three editions when published in French (Comment le
peuple juif fut inventé, Fayard, Paris, 2008). In France it received
the "Aujourd'hui Award", a journalists' award for top non-fiction
political or historical work.[2] More translations are in progress.[3]
Sand began looking for records of the exile from Israel, a
constitutive event in Jewish history, but could discover no literature
about the Jewish expulsion. His explanation is that no one exiled the
people of the country. The Romans sometimes committed ethnocide but
they did not exile peoples. Sand claims that mass exile was not
logistically possible until the 20th century.
Sand argues that most contemporary Jews do not originate from the
ancient Land of Israel.
They never existed as a "nation-race" with a common origin.
Just as most contemporary Christians and Muslims are the progeny of
converted people, not of the first Christians and Muslims, Judaism was
originally, like its two cousins, a converting religion.
Many of the present day world Jewish population are descendants of
European, Russian and African groups.
The original Jews living in Israel, contrary to accepted history, were
not exiled following the Bar Kokhba revolt.[4] Sand argues that most
of the Jews were not exiled by the Romans, and were permitted to
remain in the country. He puts the number of those exiled at tens of
thousands at most.
Many Jews converted to Islam following the Arab conquest, and were
assimilated among the conquerors. He concludes that the progenitors of
the Palestinian Arabs were Jews.[5]
Sand suggests that the story of the exile was a myth promoted by early
Christians to recruit Jews to the new faith. They portrayed that event
as a divine punishment imposed on the Jews for having rejected the
Christian gospel. Sand writes that "Christians wanted later
generations of Jews to believe that their ancestors had been exiled as
a punishment from God."[3]
Sand explains the birth of the myth of a Jewish people as a group with
a common, ethnic origin as follows : "[a]t a certain stage in the 19th
century intellectuals of Jewish origin in Germany, influenced by the
folk character of German nationalism, took upon themselves the task of
inventing a people "retrospectively," out of a thirst to create a
modern Jewish people. From historian Heinrich Graetz on, Jewish
historians began to draw the history of Judaism as the history of a
nation that had been a kingdom, became a wandering people and
ultimately turned around and went back to its birthplace."[4]
In this, they did not differ from other national movements in Europe
at the time. They invented a splendid Golden Age - for example,
classical Greece, the ancient 'Belgians', the Dutch 'Bataven' or the
Teutonic tribes - to prove they have existed as a separate people
since the beginnings of history. Before this, according to Sand, Jews
thought of themselves as Jews because they shared a common religion
not a common ethnic background.
Sand believes that the idea of Jews being obliged to return from exile
to the Promised Land was entirely alien to Judaism before the birth of
Zionism and that the holy places were seen as places to long for, not
to be lived in. On the contrary, for 2,000 years Jews stayed away from
Jerusalem because their religion forbade them from returning until the
messiah came. According to Sand, most of the Central and Eastern
European Jews hail from the mediæval Turkish Khazars who were
converted to Judaism.[6]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Invention_of_the_Jewish_People
Bob Hawke
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> Jonathan Cook | Information Clearing House via The Truth Seeker
> 3,246 views
>
No one is more surprised than Shlomo Sand that his latest academic
work has spent 19 weeks on Israel’s bestseller list — and that
success has come to the history professor despite his book
challenging
Israel’s biggest taboo.
>
> Dr Shlomo Sand argues that the idea of a Jewish nation — whose need
> for a safe haven was originally used to justify the founding of the
> state of Israel — is a myth invented little more than a century ago.
>
An expert on European history at Tel Aviv University, Dr Sand drew
on
extensive historical and archaeological research to support not only
this claim but several more — all equally controversial.
>
> In addition, he argues that the Jews were never exiled from the Holy
> Land, that most of today’s Jews have no historical connection to the
> land called Israel and that the only political solution to the
> country’s conflict with the Palestinians is to abolish the Jewish
> state.
>
> The success of “When and How Was the Jewish People Invented?” looks
> likely to be repeated around the world. A French edition, launched
> last month, is selling so fast that it has already had three print
wa...
>
> > “That was because the Romans did not exile people. In fact, Jews in
> > Palestine were overwhelming peasants and all the evidence suggests
> > they stayed on their lands.”
>
> > Instead, he believes an alternative theory is more plausible: the
> > exile was a myth promoted by early Christians to recruit Jews to the
> > new faith. “Christians wanted later generations of Jews to believe
> > that their ancestors had been exiled as a punishment from God.”
>
> http://www.wariscrime.com/2008/10/17/news/shlomo-sand-when-and-how-wa...
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> Jonathan Cook | Information Clearing House via The Truth Seeker
> 3,246 views
>
> No one is more surprised than Shlomo Sand that his latest academic
> work has spent 19 weeks on Israel’s bestseller list — and that
> success
> has come to the history professor despite his book challenging
> Israel’s biggest taboo.
>
> Dr Shlomo Sand argues that the idea of a Jewish nation — whose need
> for a safe haven was originally used to justify the founding of the
> state of Israel — is a myth invented little more than a century ago.
>
> An expert on European history at Tel Aviv University, Dr Sand drew on
> extensive historical and archaeological research to support not only
> this claim but several more — all equally controversial.
>
> In addition, he argues that the Jews were never exiled from the Holy
> Land, that most of today’s Jews have no historical connection to the
> land called Israel and that the only political solution to the
> country’s conflict with the Palestinians is to abolish the Jewish
> state.
>
The success of “When and How Was the Jewish People Invented?” looks
likely to be repeated around the world. A French edition, launched
last month, is selling so fast that it has already had three print
runs.http://www.wariscrime.com/2008/10/17/news/shlomo-sand-when-and-
>
> > “That was because the Romans did not exile people. In fact, Jews in
> > Palestine were overwhelming peasants and all the evidence suggests
> > they stayed on their lands.”
>
> > Instead, he believes an alternative theory is more plausible: the
> > exile was a myth promoted by early Christians to recruit Jews to the
> > new faith. “Christians wanted later generations of Jews to believe
> > that their ancestors had been exiled as a punishment from God.”
>