Fiji friend or Foe?
ChristianKnight
New Zealands position on Fiji is best a retreating one.
Fiji do not want democracy and they do not wish people around that promote
democracy so New Zealanders if they lean to democracy should steer well
clear of that dangerous place.
It's the Fijian people that have a right to change their system, unless of
course New Zealand is prepared to invade and rule Fiji with a New Zealand
government appointee.
What New Zealand needs to do is to withdraw all aid that is going to a
military dictatorship and stop trading with Fiji until it returns to
democracy.
I am scared to think how it must be on the streets of place where military
control all facets of everyday life forcing this and that using the
barrel of a gun.
Christ's love
David
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Fiji does want democracy...
it was a constitution which will work...
it wants freedom of expression and the rule of law.
I have been on the streets of Suva when the military was about.
Like most of not all Fijians they are polite and hospitable.
You cannot force your own brand of democracy on other people.
Ni sa loloma a Karisito Jisu.
in the love of Jesus Christ,
David.
ChristianKnight
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Democracy is to do with voting.
Pointing a gun and ordering is not Democracy.
Christ's love
David
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The present coup is more about the balance between different
confederations
of Fijian tribes.
The problem of Fijian and IndoFijian cultures was not created by Fiji.
But it has to be addressed along the way.
The arrival of new religious forms is one underlying tension.
moce,
D.
ChristianKnight
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New Zealand if it had any neighbourly regionally concerns should have
nipped the illeagal regime in the bud at the onset.
They have very now to little concern to act. In fact thew fijian
leadership are marketing military dictatorship as a positive trend for
others to adipt and the feeling I ghet from the Fijians here is "why
aren't you following father fiji's lead you trators to a superior ."
So the only safe decent thing New Zealand should do is grant the
Fijians there wish to break ties with New Zealand and strengthen
relashionships with China and India. Not nipping the reign of force in
the bud was a waver of regional responcibility that upholds the New
Zealanders voting choice to totally Genocide the worlds white races.
The government at this stage can do either of two things. Go to war
and appoint New Zealand administrators to coridinate free and
righteous elections or totally abandon Fiji withdrawing Aid and Trade
and any Governmental representation concentrating efforts within New
Zealand to promote the rational of peaceful democracy.
Christ's love
Christ's love
be...@eex.neet
How?
>They have very now to little concern to act.
what does that mean?
In fact thew fijian
>leadership are marketing military dictatorship as a positive trend for
>others to adipt and the feeling I ghet from the Fijians here is "why
>aren't you following father fiji's lead you trators to a superior ."
superior what?
>So the only safe decent thing New Zealand should do is grant the
>Fijians there wish to break ties with New Zealand and strengthen
>relashionships with China and India.
there's nothing to grant, dimbulb, Fiji is a sovereign state. it's
not an annex of NZ.
Not nipping the reign of force in
>the bud was a waver of regional responcibility that upholds the New
>Zealanders voting choice to totally Genocide the worlds white races.
WTF, and how come? and i ask again, how would this 'nipping'
actually be done?
>The government at this stage can do either of two things
just the two?
> Go to war
that's pretty serious.
>and appoint New Zealand administrators to coridinate free and
>righteous elections or totally abandon Fiji withdrawing Aid and Trade
>and any Governmental representation concentrating efforts within New
>Zealand to promote the rational of peaceful democracy.
and that harms the poor sods at the bottom of the pecking order,
so your two ideas are pretty lame.
any more strokes of genius, genius?
David
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> New Zealand if it had any neighbourly regionally concerns should have
> nipped the illeagal regime in the bud at the onset.
Oh yes, you are right about that one!
Chuck out the British...!
ChristianKnight
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New Zealand Government needs to look after New Zealanders before
trying to tackle the worlds 80% of people below the breadline.
So many people have to rent substandard accomodation.
If the united nations wants military dictatorship then New Zealand
must turn it's back on Fiji completely and leaqve food and medical
distribution to the United nations.
Getting mixed up with that terror inflicts that dictatorship terror
onto innocent New Zealanders as the ex pat fijians try to push their
dictatorship values on people used to democracy.
It's evil plain old evil. Even if the New Zealand army command support
it ordinary New Zealanders may have had family that have gone to war
and lived under that sort of chain of command.
It's not freedom it's slavery to the threat of being brutalised or
shot.
Christ's love
ChristianKnight
Chuck in a United nations force.
Or get right out as soon as possible and warn people it's to evil to
contemplate.
Christ's love
David
Vinaka wakalevu
Some Fijiians in Fiji resent being aid recipients. A lot of young
Fijiians would like to work over here and make some higher wages.
There is some resentment towards tourism. Fijians would not
generally work in the cane plantations. They are proud and
they are slaves to no man. So they had to bring in blackbirded
Solomon Islanders, and then Indians.
Fiji is not our colony and never ever was. We are Pacific neighbours.
David.
David
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um... the Fijian army IS a United Nations force...
Rich...@hotmail.com
wrote:
Is the UN still using them? There was a suggestion that due to the
coup Fijian military were not being given any more contracts.
ChristianKnight
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So New Zealand is to believe it, to, is to become a military
dictatorship because that is the UN rule?
Thumbs up for coeing democracy and gun rule?
ChristianKnight
> On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 10:08:20 -0800 (PST), David <dafyd...@gmail.com>
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> >On 7 Nov, 22:05, ChristianKnight <ChristianKni...@operamail.com>
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> >> On Nov 7, 4:30 pm, David <dafyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >> > On 7 Nov, 06:57, ChristianKnight <ChristianKni...@operamail.com>
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> >> > > New Zealand if it had any neighbourly regionally concerns should have
> >> > > nipped the illeagal regime in the bud at the onset.
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> >> > Oh yes, you are right about that one!
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> >> > Chuck out the British...!
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> >> Chuck in a United nations force.
> >> Or get right out as soon as possible and warn people it's to evil to
> >> contemplate.
> >> Christ's love
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> > um... the Fijian army IS a United Nations force...
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> Is the UN still using them? There was a suggestion that due to the
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The UN is not gathering a team to expell the illeagal terrorists so
new Zealand must take that as the Military Coe leader is seen as the
UN's hero and New Zealand should high tale out of there as soon as
possible. Or start handing it's own government and local councils over
to the New Zealand government.
Christ's love
be...@eex.neet
you're such a poor dear and dreadfully confused. on one hand your
advocating nz gets involved then you're not, now you think it's all
to do with the UN.
If i were you i'd just dry up.
be...@eex.neet
what?
be...@eex.neet
what?
David
> On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 10:08:20 -0800 (PST), David <dafyd...@gmail.com>
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> >On 7 Nov, 22:05, ChristianKnight <ChristianKni...@operamail.com>
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> >> On Nov 7, 4:30 pm, David <dafyd...@gmail.com> wrote:
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> >> > On 7 Nov, 06:57, ChristianKnight <ChristianKni...@operamail.com>
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> >> > > New Zealand if it had any neighbourly regionally concerns should have
> >> > > nipped the illeagal regime in the bud at the onset.
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> >> > Oh yes, you are right about that one!
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> >> > Chuck out the British...!
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> >> Chuck in a United nations force.
> >> Or get right out as soon as possible and warn people it's to evil to
> >> contemplate.
> >> Christ's love
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> > um... the Fijian army IS a United Nations force...
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> Is the UN still using them? There was a suggestion that due to the
> coup Fijian military were not being given any more contracts.
I suppose there are a lot of surplus personel around Fiji....
ChristianKnight
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The UN is not gathering a team to expel the illegal terrorists so
New Zealand must take that as the Military Coupe leader is seen as
the
UN's hero and New Zealand should high tale out of there as soon as
possible. Or start handing it's own government and local councils
over
to the New Zealand army.
Christ's love
ChristianKnight
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Couping,
Christ's love
ChristianKnight
Better we leave them to it or join a United Nations mission if they
believe the ordinary locals are to down trodden upon by the army.
Christ's love