FAQ: The nz.* Usenet Hierarchy.
Simon Lyall
The nz.* Usenet Hierarchy FAQ
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Maintained by Simon Lyall (si...@darkmere.gen.nz).
Version number 0.83
Created - Feb 14 1996
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Subject: 0.0 Table of Contents.
0.0 Table of Contents.
0.1 Recent Changes to this FAQ.
1.0 What is the nz.* hierarchy?
1.1 History of the nz.* hierarchy.
1.2 What nz.* groups are there?
2.0 Recent Votes.
- nz.test
- nz.org.nzcs
- nz.org.net-society
- nz.org.isocnz
- nz.org.ipenz
- nz.soc.queer
- nz.net.*
3.0 Bogus groups
4.0 Creating a new nz.* group
5.0 Sample Configuration Files
6.0 Other hierarchies/groups in nz
- iconz
- othernet
- tuia
- wgtn
- chch
7.0 Other Frequently Asked Questions
- posting to nz.test
- nz.wanted vs nz.forsale
- Getting nz.* groups overseas
- IBM
- What is usenet.net.nz?
8.0 Credits for this FAQ.
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Subject: 0.1 Recent Changes to this FAQ.
In Feb 96
- New control.ctl added, please contact me if there are errors.
In Jan 96
- Updated IBM info
In Dec
- Added information on nz.soc.queer
- same for nz.net.*
- Added soc.culture.new-zealand archive pointer
- Included infomation on getting nz.* groups in australia.
In Oct
- Added information on overseas providers of nz.* groups.
- Some information on nz.org.ipenz vote.
- Updated my email address.
- Updated UVV url.
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Subject: 1.0 What is the nz.* hierarchy?
The nz.* hierarchy is a group of Usenet Newsgroups that are primarily
distributed and to do with New Zealand, a country in the South Pacific near
Australia. While the groups are mainly for New Zealanders at home they are
also exported and can be read by people in other countries if their site
gets a feed of them.
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Subject: 1.1 History of the nz.* hierarchy.
Mark Davies posted the following message (slightly edited) outlining the
history of the current newsgroups up till March 95.
~From: ma...@comp.vuw.ac.nz (Mark Davies)
~Newsgroups: nz.org.net-society,nz.netstatus,nz.general
~Subject: Re: CFV process for creating NZ.* groups
~Date: 27 Mar 1995 23:06:30 GMT
~Message-ID: <3l7gdm$j...@st-james.comp.vuw.ac.nz>
OK, Here is the creation story for all NZ newsgroups:
nz.general
nz.netstatus
The original two. Created with no discussion (there was noone to discuss with)
when we first started getting news in the country. They will be 10 years old
later this year (happy birthday to you ...)
nz.arts
nz.comp
nz.rec
nz.soc
nz.soc.green
nz.wanted
nz.archives
Created after a usenet BOF at a Uniforum NZ conference attended by many of
the then news administrators. We got flamed about creating these without
consulting the masses so introduced a voting scheme of two week period, 20+
votes required, simple majority (I think, something like that anyway).
nz.alex
The vote was rigged and the newgroup was ignored (you had to be there)
nz.molbio
voted for and passed under the above voting scheme. The group was eventually
removed due to lack of traffic.
nz.politics
nz.org.net-society
voted for and passed under revised voting schemes allowing for the growth
in the net population.
nz.test
A technical group created after discussion when a need was identified.
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Subject: 1.2 What nz.* groups are there?
The following is a list of the currently recognized nz.* newsgroups. These
groups should be covered by all sites that claim to carry the nz.* hierarchy.
Included is the official description of the group (for your newsgroups file),
a rough estimate of the size of the group, and a brief introduction to it.
Statistics on the number of messages and total volume of each group are
taken from the list published by Mark Davies at the start of July 1995.
nz.archives
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Description: Announcements of available software.
Articles per Month: 20
Volume per Month: 158K
This group is used for the posting of lists of new and existing files at
ftp (and other) archives within New Zealand. It is also the place to ask if
you are after something and want to know if anyone has already brought it into
the country.
nz.arts
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Description: Discussion on the Arts.
Articles per Month: 31
Volume per Month: 70K
Discussion of television, exhibitions and books etc. Traffic is fairly
light and as with several of the smaller groups much of the traffic that
would normally be expected to take place in this group goes on in
nz.general instead.
nz.biz.misc
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Description: Moderated group for commercial postings
Articles per Month: -
Volume per Month: -
This is a moderated forum for the posting of commercial messages. All
messages must follow a set format (see the FAQ posted to the group) and
follow-ups are directed to nz.biz.misc.discuss. The group is currently
moderated by Richard Vowles <r.vo...@auckland.ac.nz> via the alias
nz-bi...@usenet.org.nz .
nz.biz.misc.discuss
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Description: Discussions arising from postings in nz.biz.misc
Articles per Month: -
Volume per Month: -
This is a unmoderated group for the discussion of postings made to
nz.biz.misc.
nz.comp
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Description: Computing and computers.
Articles per Month: 505
Volume per Month: 1027K
Anything computer related.
e.g. why modems need telepermits, Good computer companies.
nz.general
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Description: General information, announcements, etc
Articles per Month: 1953
Volume per Month: 3762K
The cesspool of the nz.* hierarchy, Everything tends to be discussed here with
other groups only picking up the scraps.
Examples: speed cameras, Shortland Street,
nz.netstatus
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This group has been replaced with nz.net.announce and nz.net.admin, These
new groups should be created as nz.netstatus will be removed in the near
future.
nz.net.announce
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Description: Status of Local & International Networks
Articles per Month: 10
Volume per Month: ?
This is a moderated group for posting important announcemants on Internet
links and services in New Zealand. The group is moderated to prevent chat
and to reduce the number of unwanted posts. All discussion on posts to this
group should take place elsewhere, usually nz.net.annouce. The guidelines
for posting to the group are regularly posted and the moderators address
is nz-net-...@usenet.net.nz.
nz.net.admin
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Description: Administrative issues to do with the National Network.
Articles per Month: 20
Volume per Month: ?
This group provides a forum for the discussion of issues surrounding
the Internet in New Zealand. Queries as to the status of various services
should be posted to this group as well as follow-ups on posts to
nz.net.announce. Discussion of newsgroups reorganizations with the nz.*
hierarchy should also take place here.
nz.org.isocnz
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Description: The Internet Society of New Zealand
Articles per Month: 14
Volume per Month: 11K
This group is for discussion of Internal business of ISOCNZ as well as other
issues that it is concerned with.
nz.org.net-society
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Description: Discussions relating to the Net Society of NZ
Articles per Month: 220
Volume per Month: 494K
This Newsgroup is an official area of the "Network Society of New Zealand"
which is a group devoted to representing the interest of kiwi Net users.
Issues such censorship, children's access and media stories on the Net are
regularly discussed as well as internal NetSoc matters.
nz.politics
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Description: Politics
Articles per Month: 255
Volume per Month: 625K
All forms of political discussion relating to New Zealand. This group
appears to have some propagation problems.
nz.rec
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Description: Recreation.
Articles per Month: 63
Volume per Month: 90K
Sports, games, and other outdoor and indoor activities.
nz.soc
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Description: Social issues.
Articles per Month: 37
Volume per Month: 80K
Social issues, traffic is very light.
nz.soc.green
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Description: Environmental issues.
Articles per Month: 81
Volume per Month: 330K
All sorts of 'green' issues relating to the environment, many posts are
articles forwarded from other publications or electronic forums.
nz.soc.queer
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Description: Discussion of issues related to the NZ queer community.
Articles per Month: 100
Volume per Month: ?
nz.soc.queer is a forum for the discussion of issues relating to the New
Zealand queer community. It is a discussion group to cater for people who
feel themselves to be excluded from the "straight" community because of
sexuality or gender orientation issues. This includes, but is not limited
to: gay men, lesbians, bisexual men and women, transgendered people,
people in multiple-partnered relationships, friends of any of the above, and
those who are curious or unsure.
nz.test
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Description: NZ hierarchy test messages.
Articles per Month: 130
Volume per Month: 508K
For test posts. See Section 7.0 for more information.
nz.wanted
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Description: Requests for sources, information, ...
Articles per Month: 298
Volume per Month: 311K
The place to post non-commercial For-Sale, Wanted, Looking for people and
personals. See Section 7.0 for more information.
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Subject: 2.0 Recent Votes.
nz.test
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Actually this group was not voted on. Instead it was created after discussion
in nz.netstatus and general agreement to the need for it.
nz.org.nzcs (moderated)
=======================
Brent Summers <b...@waikato.ac.nz> proposed this group in mid 1994 to cover
the New Zealand Computer Society and it's members. The group was heavily
discussed in nz.netstatus with several people expressing concern about it's
proposed moderation policy. It was put to the vote with a minimum number of 10
votes and a majority voting yes needed to pass. It lost this when a majority
voted no by 19 to 12.
nz.org.net-society
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This group was proposed by Simon Lyall <si...@darkmere.gen.nz> in late 1994
to cover non-technical Net issues and also to provide a forum for the newly
created Network Society. The number of votes required for it to pass was set
at at least 50 total and of these two thirds had to be yes. The group easily
gained this and passed by 106 to 6.
nz.org.isocnz
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Don Neal <dn...@waikato.ac.nz> proposed this group in early 1995 to cover
the New Zealand chapter of the Internet Society that was being setup at the
time. It's vote was conducted under the same rules as the previous
nz.org.net-society vote. It failed to be created when despite the large
majority in favor ( 37:2 ) the minimum number of total votes (50) was not
reached.
Another vote was held a few months later and the groups was created after
the vote passed 45:0
nz.biz.misc & nz.biz.misc.discuss
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These were created under a 2:1 & majority of 20 rule. Both just passed
by 22:2.
nz.org.ipenz
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This vote caused some problems. The proponent <Pe...@nzeipenz.co.nz>
posted a non-standard CFV after very little discussion and mostly
negative feedback. There were several problems with the voting address
with several people claiming that their votes did not get through. When
the result was published there were also several votes from overseas
addresses and one on behalf of someone else. General dissatisfaction has
ment that the group has not been created.
nz.soc.queer
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Mark Proffit <prof...@iprolink.co.nz> proposed this group in late 1995
after stong success of a similar mailing list. The vote was under a 2/3
and 25 rules and passed by 53 to 2.
nz.net.announce & nz.net.admin
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Simon Lyall <si...@darkmere.gen.nz> proposed these to replace
nz.netstatus which many felt was becomming to cluttered with chatter
which made it difficult to find important posts. After much discussion a
two part vote was held. The first part was to split nz.netstatus into the
two new groups and passed 58 to 5 while the second part was to moderate
nz.net.admin and this passed 46 to 13. Both votes were under a 2/3rds and
25 difference rule.
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Subject: 3.0 Bogus Groups
The following groups may be present at some sites or may occasionally appear
in the "Newsgroups:" header. However none of them are currently regarded as
legitimate nz.* groups and should be ignored/removed.
nz.forsale
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This group is not widely propagated and does not appear on the some of the
official lists of groups. Most of the traffic in the group is international
advertisers crossposting to *.forsale, use nz.wanted instead.
nz.gen.kiwi.3tt
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This group exists in the imagination of Neville D <n...@3tt.kiwi.gen.nz>
who has in the past put forward a belief that sites should have a corresponding
newsgroup. This idea has not been well supported among the New Zealand Usenet
community and Neville is regularly flamed when he crossposts his messages
to this group.
nz.molbio
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This group was originally created to deal with the subject of 'Molecular
Biology' but it seems nobody was much interested in that subject so after
a couple of years and almost no posts it was removed in early 1995.
nz.org.ipenz
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Several problems with the vote, see Section 2.0.
nz.org.nzcs
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Failed vote, see Section 2.0.
nz.netstatus
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Replaced with nz.net.*, see Section 2.0
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Subject: 4.0 Creating a new nz.* group
The procedures for creating a new nz.* group are similar to that of
creating a 'Big Eight' (ie news.*,comp.*,soc.*..) group except they are on
a smaller scale and less formal. Below is a recommended procedure for
creating a new group.
NOTE: This is only a recommendation, their are *no* formal rules, however
a group that passes using these procedures has a good chance of being
accepted by administrators.
1) Decide what you want exactly.
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This means you should think about what sort of group you are after,
answer to yourself questions like:
* Does it need to be moderated?
* Would a mailing list be a better idea?
* Does the traffic justify it?
* Would an International group serve the topic better?
* Where should it roughly go?
2) Post a Request for Discussion (RFD)
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This should go to at least nz.netstatus and nz.general to insure that
everybody will see it. Try an include as much information about the group
as you can including a possible charter. If you want ideas on what to
write take a look at news.announce.newsgroups and read the various RFDs
and CFVs that are posted their.
Don't forget to set your follow-ups to only one group or you will get
follow-ups all over the place that will be very hard for people to keep up
with.
With a bit of luck you will get half a dozen people following up your
RFD with "good idea, go for it" type messages and no critism whatsoever.
However in the real world (or real Usenet in this case) you are likely to
get several people questioning points you raise, pointing out silly
spelling mistakes and generally trying to pick holes in your proposal.
The thing to remember is to take account of what these people say. If
they suggest another name consider the possibility. If they say that your
charter is not clear enough on some point then try to make it clearer.
Remember some people are naturally suspicious and will make the strangest
assumptions from they see written in your RFD. The most important thing
to remember is that the RFD has to stand by itself without any other
explanations needed.
At this point you might also like to consider finding some one to count
the vote if you proposal goes that far. Ideally the person should be
neutral on the topic(or at least seen to be), known to a few people other
than yourself (a academic staff member is a good choice if you are at
university) and familiar with the basic processes of Usenet and group votes.
To assist in deciding what to put in your RFD you might like to check out
the documents at:
3) 2nd RFD
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If your proposal is pretty much accepted by everybody then you can skip
this step and go straight onto the CFV. However usually you will have a
few changes as a result of feedback from your first RFD. These should be
incorporated in a 2ndRFD which is posted in much the same way as the first.
Once again take account of any feedback and if need be you might even
want to do a 3rd RFD if there are lots of changes in your proposal.
4) 1st Call For Votes (CFV)
===========================
Once you have arranged everything with your vote-taker you should issue
the first Call for Votes or CFV. Like the RFD(s) this should be
cross-posted to nz.general and nz.netstatus (and other groups as necessary)
with follow-ups directed to one group. In addition the "Reply-To:" header
should have the address of the vote-taker so people can send in their
votes just be replying to the message. Take a look in
news.announce.newgroups for examples of CFVs and how to structure them.
5) 2nd CFV
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This should be sent out about a week after the first CFV and be pretty
much identical. It is merely to ensure that people who missed the first
CFV have a chance to vote.
6) Important points for the vote-taker
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* All votes should be acknowledged by Email, this is so that the voter
knows that his/her vote has got through and been counted by the vote-taker.
If a vote is not acknowledged within a day or two by the vote-taker the
voter *must* assume that the vote has failed to get through and should
re-vote. This should be spelled out in the CFV.
* The vote-taker must not tell anyone (including the proponent) about the
number or nature of the votes received while the vote is taking place. If
this is done so the vote is immediately null and void. Obviously is
some circumstances it may be necessary to discuss the vote with other
people (such as ones system administrator if possible forged votes are
being administrated) but in all these cases no indication of the overall
result should be given.
* Only one vote per person and one vote per account. Anonymous votes
should not be accepted, nor proxies or votes from 'system' accounts (such
as root or postmaster) unless a name is attached. Also votes where the
acknowledgement bounces should be treated with suspicion.
* It should be stated before-hand if votes from outside *.nz will be
accepted.
7) The Result
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After voting has closed the the vote-taker is satisfied as to the
legality of the votes received (and discarded any illegal ones) he/she
should determine the result.
Please note: The exact number of votes needed to create and nz.* group is
currently still under debate. These numbers given below are around those
that have been suggested. In any case the exact numbers for needed for a
particular vote to succeed should be listed in the CFV.
The vote should be counted as having passed if the number of YES votes is
at least twice the number of NO votes *and* there are at least 20 more
YES than NO votes.
After the result has been determined the vote-taker should post it to all
the groups the the CFV was posted to (with appropriate follow ups) and list
the names of all the voters and which way they voted.
If there are no major disputes the group(s) voted in favor of should be
created.
To make sure you vote has the best chance of being created after a successful
vote has occurred you should get Mark Davies <ma...@comp.vuw.ac.nz> and
ro...@usenet.net.nz to both send out messages to create the group.
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Subject: 5.0 Sample Configuration Files
The following moderators file contains a line so that all messages posted to
moderated nz.* groups are forwarded to the alias for the moderator alias at
usenet.net.nz.
--cut--here--
gnu.*:%s...@tut.cis.ohio-state.edu
nz.*:%s...@usenet.net.nz
*:%s...@uunet.uu.net
--cut--here--
Below is a sample control.ctl, this is used by INN to decide how to respond to
control messages that effect newsgroups (rather than simple message cancels).
This control.ctl was originally by Alan Brown <al...@manawatu.gen.nz> , I
am in the process of updating it. Please contact me if there are any errors.
For an explanation on what the commands to consult the man page for
'control.ctl' and also the explanation at the start of the file on your
own system.
--cut--here--
## DEFAULT
all:*:*:mail
## CHECKGROUPS MESSAGES
checkgroups:*:*:mail
## IHAVE/SENDME MESSAGES
ihave:*:*:drop
sendme:*:*:drop
## NEWGROUP/RMGROUP MESSAGES
## Default
newgroup:*:*:mail
rmgroup:*:*:mail
## BIG 8 + ddn
newgroup:tale@*.uu.net:comp.*|humanities.*|misc.*|news.*|rec.*|sci.*|soc.*|talk.*:doit=newgroup
newgroup:fa...@apple.com:comp.*|humanities.*|misc.*|news.*|rec.*|sci.*|soc.*|talk.*|ddn.*:mail
rmgroup:tale@*.uu.net:comp.*|humanities.*|misc.*|news.*|rec.*|sci.*|soc.*|talk.*:doit=rmgroup
rmgroup:kre@*mu*au:comp.*|humanities.*|misc.*|news.*|rec.*|sci.*|soc.*|talk.*:mail
rmgroup:fa...@apple.com:comp.*|humanities.*|misc.*|news.*|rec.*|sci.*|soc.*|talk.*|ddn.*:mail
## ALABAMA newsgroups
newgroup:ne...@news.msfc.nasa.gov:alabama.*:doit=newgroup
rmgroup:ne...@news.msfc.nasa.gov:alabama.*:doit=rmgroup
## AT (Austrian) newsgroups
newgroup:*:at.*:mail
newgroup:g...@snoopy.cc.univie.ac.at:at.*:doit=newgroup
newgroup:m...@snoopy.cc.univie.ac.at:at.*:doit=newgroup
newgroup:ne...@ping.at:at.*:doit=newgroup
newgroup:le...@cosy.sbg.ac.at:at.*:doit=newgroup
rmgroup:*:at.*:mail
rmgroup:g...@snoopy.cc.univie.ac.at:at.*:doit=rmgroup
rmgroup:m...@snoopy.cc.univie.ac.at:at.*:doit=rmgroup
rmgroup:ne...@ping.at:at.*:doit=rmgroup
rmgroup:le...@cosy.sbg.ac.at:at.*:doit=rmgroup
## AUS (Australian) newsgroups
newgroup:*:aus.*:mail
newgroup:kre@*mu*au:aus.*|melb.*:doit=newgroup
newgroup:revdoc@*uow.edu.au:aus.*:doit=newgroup
rmgroup:*:aus.*:mail
rmgroup:kre@*mu*au:aus.*|melb.*:doit=rmgroup
rmgroup:revdoc@*uow.edu.au:aus.*:doit=rmgroup
## AZ (Arizona) newsgroups
newgroup:*:az.*:mail
newgroup:sys...@asuvax.eas.asu.edu:az.*:doit=newgroup
rmgroup:*:az.*:mail
rmgroup:sys...@asuvax.eas.asu.edu:az.*:doit=rmgroup
## BERMUDA newsgroups
newgroup:*:bermuda.*:mail
newgroup:news@*ibl.bm:bermuda.*:doit=newgroup
rmgroup:*:bermuda.*:mail
rmgroup:news@*ibl.bm:bermuda.*:doit=rmgroup
## BIONET newsgroups
newgroup:shibumi@*.bio.net:bionet.*:mail
newgroup:kristoff@*.bio.net:bionet.*:doit=newgroup
rmgroup:shibumi@*.bio.net:bionet.*:mail
rmgroup:kristoff@*.bio.net:bionet.*:doit=rmgroup
## BITNET newsgroups
rmgroup:jim@*american.edu:bit.*:doit=rmgroup
newgroup:jim@*american.edu:bit.*:doit=newgroup
## BIZ groups
newgroup:*:biz.*:mail
newgroup:ed...@xenitec.on.ca:biz.*:doit=newgroup
rmgroup:*:biz.*:mail
rmgroup:ed...@xenitec.on.ca:biz.*:doit=rmgroup
## CHI (Chicago, USA) newsgroups
newgroup:*:chi.*:mail
newgroup:lisbon@*interaccess.com:doit=newgroup
newgroup:lisbon@*chi.il.us:doit=newgroup
rmgroup:*:chi.*:mail
rmgroup:lisbon@*interaccess.com:doit=rmgroup
rmgroup:lisbon@*chi.il.us:doit=rmgroup
## CHINESE (Chinese Language) newsgroups
newgroup:pin...@stat.berkeley.edu:chinese.*:doit=newgroup
rmgroup:pin...@stat.berkeley.edu:chinese.*:doit=rmgroup
## CL (?) newsgroups
newgroup:ro...@cl.sub.de:cl.*:doit=newgroup
rmgroup:ro...@cl.sub.de:cl.*:doit=rmgroup
## CLARINET newsgroups
newgroup:clar...@clarinet.com:clari.*:mail
newgroup:clar...@clarinet.net:clari.*:mail
rmgroup:clar...@clarinet.com:clari.*:mail
rmgroup:clar...@clarinet.net:clari.*:mail
## DC (Washington D.C ) newsgroups
newgroup:*:dc.*:mail
newgroup:pe...@cs.umd.edu:dc.*:doit=newgroup
rmgroup:*:dc.*:mail
rmgroup:pe...@cs.umd.edu:dc.*:doit=rmgroup
## DFW (Dallas/Fort Worth) newsgroups
newgroup:eric@*cirr.com:dfw.*:doit=newgroup
rmgroup:eric@*cirr.com:dfw.*:doit=rmgroup
## FJ (Japanese) newsgroups
newgroup:fj-com...@etl.go.jp:fj.*:doit=newgroup
rmgroup:fj-com...@etl.go.jp:fj.*:doit=rmgroup
## GNU newsgroups
newgroup:usenet@*ohio-state.edu:gnu.*:mail
newgroup:to...@prep.ai.mit.edu:gnu.*:mail
newgroup:ne...@ai.mit.edu:gnu.*:mail
newgroup:karl.kl...@osc.edu:gnu.*:mail
rmgroup:usenet@*ohio-state.edu:gnu.*:mail
rmgroup:to...@prep.ai.mit.edu:gnu.*:mail
rmgroup:ne...@ai.mit.edu:gnu.*:mail
rmgroup:karl.kl...@osc.edu:gnu.*:mail
## HAN (Korean Hangul)
newgroup:ne...@usenet.hana.nm.kr:han.*:doit=newgroup
rmgroup:ne...@usenet.hana.nm.kr:han.*:doit=rmgroup
## HANNET & HANNOVER (Hannover, Germany) newsgroups
newgroup:fi...@hiss.han.de:hannover.*|hannet.*:doit=newgroup
rmgroup:fi...@hiss.han.de:hannover.*|hannet.*:doit=rmgroup
## HAWAII newsgroups
newgroup:ne...@lava.net:hawaii.*:doit=newgroup
rmgroup:ne...@lava.net:hawaii.*:doit=rmgroup
## HOUSTON newsgroups
newgroup:use...@academ.com:houston.*:doit=newgroup
rmgroup:use...@academ.com:houston.*:doit=rmgroup
## IA (Iowa) newsgroups
newgroup:sk...@iastate.edu:ia.*:doit=newgroup
rmgroup:sk...@iastate.edu:ia.*:doit=rmgroup
## IEEE newsgroups
newgroup:burt@*ieee.org:ieee.*:mail
rmgroup:burt@*ieee.org:ieee.*:mail
## IT (Italy) newgroups
newgroup:ne...@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it:it.*:doit=newgroup
newgroup:ste...@di.unipi.it:it.*:doit=newgroup
rmgroup:ne...@ghost.sm.dsi.unimi.it:it.*:doit=rmgroup
rmgroup:ste...@di.unipi.it:it.*:doit=rmgroup
## K12 newsgroups
newgroup:*@psg.com:k12.*:mail
rmgroup:ne...@psg.com:k12.*:mail
## LINUX (gatewayed mailing lists for the Linux OS)
newgroup:h...@yggdrasil.com:linux.*:doit=newgroup
rmgroup:h...@yggdrasil.com:linux.*:doit=rmgroup
## MAUS (something German?)
newgroup:gue...@gst0hb.north.de:maus.*:doit=newgroup
rmgroup:gue...@gst0hb.north.de:maus.*:doit=rmgroup
## ME (Maine, USA)
newgroup:Ke...@Maine.Maine.edu:me.*:doit=newgroup
rmgroup:Ke...@Maine.Maine.edu:me.*:doit=rmgroup
## NIAGARA (US/CAN)
newgroup:ne...@niagara.com:niagara.*:doit=newgroup
rmgroup:ne...@niagara.com:niagara.*:doit=rmgroup
## NL (The Netherlands)
newgroup:ne...@a3.xs4all.nl:nl.*:doit=newgroup
rmgroup:ne...@a3.xs4all.nl:nl.*:doit=rmgroup
## NO (Norway)
newgroup:m05...@statoil.no:no.*:doit=newgroup
newgroup:*.no:no.alt.*:doit=newgroup
rmgroup:m05...@statoil.no:no.*:doit=rmgroup
## NV (Navada)
newgroup:doc...@netcom.com:nv.*:doit=newgroup
newgroup:csha...@netcom.com:nv.*:doit=newgroup
rmgroup:doc...@netcom.com:nv.*:doit=rmgroup
rmgroup:csha...@netcom.com:nv.*:doit=rmgroup
## NZ (New Zealand) newsgroups
newgroup:ma...@comp.vuw.ac.nz:nz.*:doit=newgroup
newgroup:ro...@usenet.net.nz:nz.*:doit=newgroup
rmgroup:ma...@comp.vuw.ac.nz:nz.*:doit=rmgroup
rmgroup:ro...@usenet.net.nz:nz.*:doit=rmgroup
## USA newsgroups
newgroup:*:us.*:mail
newgroup:d...@ornl.gov:us.*:doit=newgroup
rmgroup:*:us.*:mail
rmgroup:d...@ornl.gov:us.*:doit=rmgroup
## VMSNET newsgroups
newgroup:t...@mccall.com:vmsnet.*:mail
rmgroup:t...@mccall.com:vmsnet.*:mail
## ALT newsgroups
newgroup:*:alt.*:mail
#newgroup:d...@martha.utcc.utk.edu:alt.*:doit=mail
#newgroup:use...@martha.utcc.utk.edu:alt.*:doit=mail
#newgroup:smj@*oro.net:alt.*:doit=mail
#newgroup:jim@*american.edu:alt.*:doit=newgroup
rmgroup:*:alt.*:mail
rmgroup:dav...@netcom.com:alt.*:doit=mail
rmgroup:smj@*oro.net:alt.*:doit=mail
rmgroup:d...@martha.utcc.utk.edu:alt.*:doit=mail
rmgroup:use...@martha.utcc.utk.edu:alt.*:doit=mail
rmgroup:jim@*american.edu:alt.*:doit=rmgroup
sendsys:*:*:drop
sendsys:*@uunet.uu.net:*:doit=miscctl
sendsys:*@*.nz:to.*:doifarg
## SENDUUNAME
senduuname:*@uunet.uu.net:*:doit=miscctl
senduuname:*:*:mail
## VERSION
version:*@uunet.uu.net:*:doit=miscctl
version:*:*:mail
## TWIT LIST
all:*@*michigan.com:*:drop
all:*@*rabbit.net:*:drop
all:*@*anatolia.org:*:drop
all:*@*heaven*:*:drop
all:*@*hell*:*:drop
all:*@*nowhere*:*:drop
all:noone@*:*:drop
all:nobody@*:*:drop
all:anon@*:*::drop
all:djk@*:*:drop
all:*@*tasp*:*:drop
all:*@espuma*:*:drop
all:cosar@*:*:drop
all:*@*caprica.com:*:drop
all:gri...@montana.et.byu.edu:*:drop
all:*@*infi.net:*:drop
all:*@*.cs.du.edu:*:drop
all:*@*netcom*:*:drop
all:*@*.penet.*:*:drop
all:*@utmb.edu:*:drop
all:*@lbss.fcps*:*:drop
all:*@freenet.carleton.ca:*:drop
all:*@kaiwan.com:*:drop
all:*@ripco.com:*:drop
all:riley@planet:*:drop
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Subject: 6.0 Other widely available hierarchies in New Zealand.
The following hierarchies are distributed across several companies
and/or regions of New Zealand. In addition most sites have a group of two
devoted just to issues at that site or for testing purposes.
iconz.*
=======
These groups are carried by the Internet Company of New Zealand (ICONZ)
and related companies. They are for Iconz customers and companies
connected via Iconz, with Auckland users tending to dominate the
discussion.
othernet.*
==========
These groups are gatewayed echoes from various FTNs (Fido Technology
Networks) and are distributed nationally. The gateway is run by Richard
Vowles <ro...@nacjack.gen.nz> and also includes a Usenet<->ftn mail gateway.
Currently Fido echoes are not gatewayed following complaints by people on
FidoNet.
tuia.*
======
A couple of groups are devoted to TuiaNet which is the organisation of
Universities, research bodies and a few others that (currently)
administers Much of the Internet in New Zealand. However these groups are
very much defunct.
wgtn.*
======
These groups are distributed around the Wellington area and cover local
topics.
chch.*
======
These groups are distributed around the Christchurch area and cover local
topics.
------------------------------------
Subject: 7.0 Other Frequently Asked Questions
Here are a couple of other questions relating to Usenet in New Zealand, please
let me know if you are aware of any others or have additional info on the
ones already listed.
How do I post to nz.test?
=========================
nz.test may be posted to the same way as another unmoderated nz.* group,
however there are several sites ( Waikato, Victoria & Auckland
Universities plus others) that automaticly send you a message so that
you know that your posting software/newsfeed is working. To prevent
these sites from responding to your posts include the word "ignore" in
the Subject.
If the article leaks overseas you might also get responses from many
sites around the world to you post. To prevent this you should set the
distribution of your article to "nz".
Should I used nz.wanted or nz.forsale?
======================================
You should use nz.wanted for all posts including 'For-Sale' notices.
However messages of a commercial nature should be avoided. Recently the
nz.biz.misc group was created for these.
How do I get nz.* groups outside of New Zealand?
================================================
UUNet provide full nntp feeds for US$98 per month. Contact Chris Berry
<cbe...@uunet.uu.net> on 1800-488-6384x5859 for details.
Joe St Sauver <j...@decoy.uoregon.edu> has offered to arrange feeds of nz.*
with people in the Western USA, contact him to arange something.
AltNet provides access via nntp to a full range of groups. Feeds are
US$50 per month and the cost for individual readers is $5 per month.
Contact Chris Caputo <cca...@alt.net> for details.
In Australia, the nz.* hierarchy is available from most
sites that take news feeds originating at harbinger (Monash U)
or munnari (Melbourne U). This implies a near-total availability
on the Telstra (formerly AARNet) backbone although not all
second-tier sites carry it automatically.
Akiko currently archives soc.culture.new-zealand. The archive is
accessible from the search engine at http://nz.com/cgi-bin/look just
select the little button next to "soc.culture.new-zealand netnews archive"
to include it in your search.
What about users on the IBM Global Network?
===========================================
IBM's Internet service offers all the nz.* groups.
What is usenet.net.nz?
======================
The alias usenet.net.nz has been created to help with some admin issues
with nz.* groups. So far it is only used for moderated nz.* groups but
in the future other services will hopefully be based from it.
------------------------------------
Subject: 8.0 Credits for this FAQ.
* Simon Lyall <si...@darkmere.gen.nz>
Maintainer and misc text.
* Mark Davies <ma...@comp.vuw.ac.nz>
Providing a history and statistics also helping to get Usenet started in New
Zealand in the first place.
* Alan Brown <al...@manawatu.planet.co.nz>
Providing sample control.ctl
* Lin Nah <l....@auckland.ac.nz>