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Paul

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Oct 12, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/12/96
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Can anybody kindly tell me the result of Parliament Election and if the
result is no one single party can have the controlling power over the
Parliament, what will be the result, the effect of it, the policy of it,
and your comment? Please kindly direct mail to me pau...@netvigator.com

Jethro Timbrell

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Oct 12, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/12/96
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Try http://www.election.govt.nz it should have the results.

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JT.

Steve Withers

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Oct 12, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/12/96
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In <326043...@netvigator.com>, Paul <pau...@netvigator.com> writes:
>Can anybody kindly tell me the result of Parliament Election and if the
>result is no one single party can have the controlling power over the
>Parliament, what will be the result, the effect of it, the policy of it,
>and your comment? Please kindly direct mail to me pau...@netvigator.com

It is 2:20am and the results - so far (special votes not
counted) are:

National 44 (Tories)
Labour 37 (like NDP)
NZ First 17 (Centrist - but closer to Labour)
Alliance 13 (like NDP, but more left)
Act 8 (New Right proponents)
United 1 (Centrist)

The likely outcome is a Labour/NZ First coalition supported by
the Alliance with Helen Clark as the first female PM of New
Zealand.

But it could also go to a National/ACT/NZ First government. But
the Nat leader (Jim Bolger) and the NZ First leader (Winston Peters)
hate each others guts. PLus the NZ First MPs - the other 16 - are
closer to Labour than National.......

But then Helen Clark of labour and Jim Anderton of the Alliance
also have a history of mistrust and some (apparent) backstabbing.

The current government will continue in caretaker mode until
things get sorted out. That may take 3-4 weeks.

The outcome depends on which way NZ First jumps as they hold the
key to any government being able to command a majority.

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Oct 12, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/12/96
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In <326043...@netvigator.com>, Paul <pau...@netvigator.com> writes:
>Can anybody kindly tell me the result of Parliament Election and if the
>result is no one single party can have the controlling power over the
>Parliament, what will be the result, the effect of it, the policy of it,
>and your comment? Please kindly direct mail to me pau...@netvigator.com
Please keep political posts to an appropriate newsgroup. It is rather arrogant to
clutter up interest groups with uninteresting stuff.

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Bob McLellan
The Little Blue Kiwi
OS/2 Solutions for New Zealand


Geoff Fischer

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Oct 13, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/13/96
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Steve Withers wrote:
>
> The likely outcome is a Labour/NZ First coalition supported by
> the Alliance with Helen Clark as the first female PM of New
> Zealand.
>
> But it could also go to a National/ACT/NZ First government. But
> the Nat leader (Jim Bolger) and the NZ First leader (Winston Peters)
> hate each others guts. PLus the NZ First MPs - the other 16 - are
> closer to Labour than National.......
> I would suggest National-Labour.
They can form a clear majority with only 2 member parties in the coalition
They can portray themselves as a truly centrist coalition
They both distrust Peters and Anderton, and would prefer not to be dependent
on the Parliamentary support of either.
They want to leave ACT as an independent voice on the right which will be
useful without compromising policy.
A National-Labour coalition is the only one that makes political sense.
I expect it will happen.
I didn't vote because I judged it irresponsible to vote in such a situation
where the voter has so little control over, or even understanding of, the
likely consequences of their vote.

Les Ferguson

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Oct 13, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/13/96
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Paul <pau...@netvigator.com> wrote:

>Can anybody kindly tell me the result of Parliament Election and if the
>result is no one single party can have the controlling power over the
>Parliament, what will be the result, the effect of it, the policy of it,
>and your comment? Please kindly direct mail to me pau...@netvigator.com

Please stop cross-posting your messages.
You have posted the above message to the Newsgroups:
nz.politics,nz.rec,nz.soc,nz.general,nz.netstatus,nz.org.net-society,nz..comp

This has now been replied to by 4 people. Each of their replies has,
of course, been cross-posted to each of the groups that you originally
posted to.

ps. could the people that are replying to usenet messages PLEASE look
at the NEWSGROUPS heading of messages you reply to. If you can't see
this heading, see if your news reader has an option like 'SHOW ALL
HEADERS' and turn this option on, temporarily, before sending your
reply.

You should be able to remove the newsgroups from this list that do not
seem to be appropriate forums for the message you are replying to.

Thank you for your attentiveness.
Les

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Charlie Bailey

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Oct 15, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/15/96
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> I didn't vote because I judged it irresponsible to vote in such a situation
> where the voter has so little control over, or even understanding of, the
> likely consequences of their vote.

Thats something that annoys me.

Mightily.

However, I'm of the opinion that if you don't take an active part in the
election process, you've got no right to complain.

(yes, abstention is a form of expressing your opinion - unfortunately, you
can't specifically state "I abstain" on a voting form....an oversight IMO)

Seems politicians really haven't got the hang of the spirit of MMP, have they.

The Overman

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Oct 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/16/96
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Charlie Bailey wrote:

> However, I'm of the opinion that if you don't take an active part in the
> election process, you've got no right to complain.

> (yes, abstention is a form of expressing your opinion - unfortunately, you
> can't specifically state "I abstain" on a voting form....an oversight IMO)

There should be a vote of no confidence...

> Seems politicians really haven't got the hang of the spirit of MMP, have they.

Politicians getting the hang of the spirit of ANYTHING is unthinkable.

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Geoff Thorpe

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Oct 16, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/16/96
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Howdy,

The Overman <vic-...@ihug.co.nz> wrote in article
<326410...@ihug.co.nz>...


> Politicians getting the hang of the spirit of ANYTHING is unthinkable.

As Billy Connelly once said:
"I think the desire to be a politician should forbid you from ever being
one"

Cheers,
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Rose Cole

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Oct 17, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/17/96
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Geoff Thorpe wrote:

> As Billy Connelly once said:
> "I think the desire to be a politician should forbid you from ever being one"

I quite agree. Poor Pam Corkery has had to take a pay cut to be a
politician. Ain't life a bitch... Lets get an appeal going to keep her
in the manner to which she has grown accustomed. And why shouldn't she
keep that high salary - under the alliance policy she would get taxed
heavily, and supplement the health system with the proceeds.

Rose

Gordon Chamley

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Oct 24, 1996, 3:00:00 AM10/24/96
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When replying to news posts with multiple newsgroups specified, you can
remove these by clicking your mouse cursor in the Newsgroup field and
deleting the offending names.

For example, for this article you could profitably remove nz.rec,
nz.netstatus, nz.org.net-society, and especially nz.comp as the Subject
has absolutely nothing to do with computers.

This practice is one of (not-so-)common courtesy.

I crosspost this reply only to ensure that potential respondents from
all the Newsgroups above have the opportunity to be more selective about
where they post their replies.
--
Gordon, NZ (first place to see the sun)
Cha...@ihug.co.nz

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