Defining the Left-Right Political Spectrum

[Gordon]

This is interesting. Some real hard hitting points.


https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/p/defining-the-left-right-political

"It is surely one of the great ironies of political history that many of
today’s leftists are obsessed with defining humanity in racial categories,
and attributing moral qualities to these categories. In other words,
these people have become racists."

[Lawrence D'Oliveiro]

Ah, the spectrumists are on the march again: left-right, left-right ...

[Rich80105]

We have moved on from the French Revolution - for a more nuanced
approach see:
https://www.politicalcompass.org/
and https://www.politicalcompass.org/nz2023

The term Liberal is used by a conservative party in Australia - in New
Zealand it tends to refer to the more centrist elements of the
National Party. Both ACT and National are about as right with respect
to economic policies as the Republican party in the USA, but ACT
pretend to have adopted libertarian policies on the social spectrum -
assisting them to appeal to those with "alternative views" by also
minimising the need to balance freedom of actions with responsibility
for others; thus appealing to gun lobbyists, but also to an extent to
Covid nutters.

[Willy Nilly]

On Wed, 10 Jan 2024, Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Covid nutters.

By "Covid nutters", you undoubtedly mean people like Dr. Aseem
Malhotra, who was pro-vaccine as anything until his previously-healthy
father died of heart-blockages 6 months after getting the Pfizer jabs.


https://dailytelegraph.co.nz/news/world-renowned-consultant-cardiologist-dr-aseem-malhotra-speaks-to-sold-out-crowd-at-eden-park-today/

[Tony]

Rich80105 <Rich...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>On 9 Jan 2024 07:34:58 GMT, Gordon <Gor...@leaf.net.nz> wrote:
>
>>This is interesting. Some real hard hitting points.
>>
>>
>>https://petermcculloughmd.substack.com/p/defining-the-left-right-political
>>
>>"It is surely one of the great ironies of political history that many of
>>today’s leftists are obsessed with defining humanity in racial categories,
>>and attributing moral qualities to these categories. In other words,
>>these people have become racists."
>
>We have moved on from the French Revolution - for a more nuanced
>approach see:
>https://www.politicalcompass.org/
>and https://www.politicalcompass.org/nz2023
>
>The term Liberal is used by a conservative party in Australia - in New
>Zealand it tends to refer to the more centrist elements of the
>National Party. Both ACT and National are about as right with respect
>to economic policies as the Republican party in the USA

Wrong, another often told lie.

>, but ACT
>pretend to have adopted libertarian policies on the social spectrum -
>assisting them to appeal to those with "alternative views" by also
>minimising the need to balance freedom of actions with responsibility
>for others; thus appealing to gun lobbyists, but also to an extent to
>Covid nutters.

It is unfair to call people who caught Covid nutters, but then unfair is your
best approach to such matters.
That and everythjng else you wrote is bullshit.

[Willy Nilly]

Also see his twitter feed if you want an education:
https://twitter.com/DrAseemMalhotra

[Rich80105]

No, first I was not aware of him, but also he does not appear
concerned abut the primary role of the vaccine in significantly
reducing the number of Covid deaths, but he was understandably
distressed by the death of his father, which he attributes at least in
part to a reaction to the vaccine. While he offers no proof that the
death was primarily caused by the vaccine, the reality is that many
vaccines since they were first developed have been accompanied by
deaths that may arise from aspects of the injection itself or a small
adverse effect of the vaccine itself. You may recall that during the
various waves there was one time when the method if preparing for the
injection was changed to minimise such adverse effects - while they at
times gave adverse effects well short of death, it is better to
minimise such effects where possible.

It is indeed sad that his father died with the possibility that it was
indeed caused by the injection or vaccine or both; we can sympathise,
but the Doctor does not appear to have concluded that the vaccination
programme was wrong - the statistics, and in particular comparisons
with other countries, show that we are better off than most other
countries in terms of Covid deaths; the lockdowns gave us a little
time to see vaccine results from some other coutries; some of our
vaccine supplies were developed after the initial vaccine and that may
have also helped.

No vaccine is a total success, but New Zealand can rightly be proud of
our medical profession for their support for the isolation programme
before vaccines were available, for their support for the vaccines,
and for their analysis on the way through that identified improvements
during the programme. While or death rates overall were low, that is
little comfort to the families of those that did die for whatever
reason.

Perhaps that was not the "education" you were looking for Willy Nilly,
but it is good to be reminded that while we did have more deaths than
we would have liked, overall we did very well.