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PAM.

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Dec 12, 2002, 7:19:07 PM12/12/02
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Butterred toast. Strap to back of cat, butter side up. Drop cat from height. Toast will want to land butter side down, object will
spin, cat will want to land feet first, object will spin. AD infinitum.

:-)

PAM.


Nicolaas Hawkins

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Dec 12, 2002, 8:20:55 PM12/12/02
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PAM. wrote in news:ZH9K9.803$Q11....@news.xtra.co.nz:

You REALLY SHOULD try to get out more ...

PAM.

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Dec 12, 2002, 9:03:26 PM12/12/02
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"Nicolaas Hawkins" <rap...@top.net.nz> wrote in message > You REALLY SHOULD try to get out more ...

BEEP BEEP!

PAM.


Jay

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Dec 13, 2002, 12:04:00 AM12/13/02
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"PAM." <Junk...@Fishnchips.com> wrote in message
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> Butterred toast. Strap to back of cat, butter side up. Drop cat from
height. Toast will want to land butter side down, object will
> spin, cat will want to land feet first, object will spin. AD infinitum.

ROFL!
Slow day today PAM?

Jay

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> PAM.
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Nicolaas Hawkins

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Dec 13, 2002, 12:55:30 AM12/13/02
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PAM. wrote in news:NdbK9.957$Q11....@news.xtra.co.nz:

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> "Nicolaas Hawkins" <rap...@top.net.nz> wrote in message > You
> REALLY SHOULD try to get out more ...
>
> BEEP BEEP!
>

"Beep-Beep NOW, you bastard!" screamed Wile E.Coyote as he impaled a
rueful Road Runner mercilessly on his ....

Chrissy

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Dec 13, 2002, 7:00:43 AM12/13/02
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Nicolaas Hawkins wrote
> PAM.
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> > Nicolaas Hawkins wrote

> > You REALLY SHOULD try to get out more ...
> >
> > BEEP BEEP!
> >
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> "Beep-Beep NOW, you bastard!" screamed Wile E.Coyote as he impaled a
> rueful Road Runner mercilessly on his ....

I saw an episode of "RR" called "At Last" where Wile E. Coyote is having
a BBQ at the end - with a big drumstick.

Chrissy.


D Olpheart

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Dec 13, 2002, 2:43:33 PM12/13/02
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"PAM." <Junk...@Fishnchips.com> wrote in message
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> Butterred toast. Strap to back of cat, butter side up. Drop cat from
height. Toast will want to land butter side down, object will
> spin, cat will want to land feet first, object will spin. AD infinitum.
>
Don't try it over my carpet!


forensic analysis

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Dec 13, 2002, 4:36:06 PM12/13/02
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"PAM." <Junk...@Fishnchips.com> wrote in message
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The cat will land on its feet.

It has the greater mass and has will - the toast does not.

Very funny though...


Aum

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Dec 13, 2002, 8:53:41 PM12/13/02
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D Olpheart wrote:

Get a fine expensive Persian rug, fix it to the ceiling.
Then the will of the butter on the toast will exert a force equal to the
pull of gravity on the cat plus the cat's will to land on its feet.
There's your perpetual motion.

Aum

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Dec 13, 2002, 8:54:57 PM12/13/02
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Chrissy wrote:

> I saw an episode of "RR" called "At Last" where Wile E. Coyote is having
> a BBQ at the end - with a big drumstick.

Are you sure it didn't turn out to be a dream sequence, resulting from his
unconsciousness from impact with a Mack Truck RR was driving?

Chrissy

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Dec 13, 2002, 9:05:36 PM12/13/02
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Aum wrote

100% sure.

Chrissy.


Aum

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Dec 13, 2002, 9:26:27 PM12/13/02
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Chrissy wrote:

LOL!

I was a major fan of BB, RR and all the other classic WB animation stuff.
Betrays my vintage, but I don't give a rat's.

Never saw the episode you mention - must have been the very last RR. Would
have given Mel Blank, Chuck Jones, Fritz Frieling etc a laugh.

Have you got it on video? Any chance you could capture it to an MPEG file
and stick it up on the web somewhere?

A

Chrissy

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Dec 13, 2002, 9:50:40 PM12/13/02
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Aum wrote

It was done as part of a video competition - and it was good - very well
done too - looked like an original - and I do have it on video - I can also
get it on disk for you I think which will be easier than transferring it.

Chrissy.


John Cawston

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Dec 13, 2002, 10:49:22 PM12/13/02
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"PAM." wrote:

> Butterred toast. Strap to back of cat, butter side up. Drop cat from height. Toast will want to land butter side down, object will
> spin, cat will want to land feet first, object will spin. AD infinitum.

Indeed it does. This thread also proves the perpetual motion of the internet where there is nothing new:

"If you drop a buttered piece of bread, it will fall on the floor butter-
side down. If a cat is dropped from a window or other high and towering
place, it will land on its feet.

But what if you attach a buttered piece of bread, butter-side up to a
cat's back and toss them both out the window? Will the cat land on its
feet? Or will the butter splat on the ground?

And in response, thus spake the Oracle:
Even if you are too lazy to do the experiment yourself you should be
able to deduce the obvious result. The laws of butterology demand that
the butter must hit the ground, and the equally strict laws of feline
aerodynamics demand that the cat cannot smash its furry back. If the
combined construct were to land, nature would have no way to resolve
this paradox. Therefore it simply does not fall.

That's right you clever mortal (well, as clever as a mortal can get),
you have discovered the secret of antigravity! A buttered cat will,
when released, quickly move to a height where the forces of cat-
twisting and butter repulsion are in equilibrium. This equilibrium
point can be modified by scraping off some of the butter, providing
lift, or removing some of the cat's limbs, allowing descent.
Most of the civilized species of the Universe already use this
principle to drive their ships while within a planetary system. The
loud humming heard by most sighters of UFOs is, in fact, the purring of
several hundred tabbies.

The one obvious danger is, of course, if the cats manage to eat the
bread off their backs they will instantly plummet. Of course the cats
will land on their feet, but this usually doesn't do them much good,
since right after they make their graceful landing several tons of red-
hot starship and pissed off aliens crash on top of them.


JC


Enkidu

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Dec 14, 2002, 2:48:03 AM12/14/02
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On Fri, 13 Dec 2002 13:19:07 +1300, "PAM." <Junk...@Fishnchips.com>
wrote:

>Butterred toast. Strap to back of cat, butter side up. Drop cat from height.
>Toast will want to land butter side down, object will
>spin, cat will want to land feet first, object will spin. AD infinitum.
>

No, untrue. The cat will always land on its feet. Quantum mechanics
requires that if you do the experiment it will always have a
physically consistent result. It's called the "collapse of of the
probability wave". Since a cat always lands on its feet, the only
possible variable is the side of the bread that is buttered. If you do
the experiment you will observe that pussy always lands on his feet.
This conclusively proves that you will always have buttered the wrong
side of the slice of bread.

Cheers,

Cliff
--

The Nats held a Party and no one came.

Geoff Rait

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Dec 14, 2002, 3:13:25 PM12/14/02
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In <9dnlvu8s7kt97216g...@4ax.com>, Enkidu wrote:

>On Fri, 13 Dec 2002 13:19:07 +1300, "PAM." wrote:

>>Butterred toast. Strap to back of cat, butter side up. Drop cat from height.
>>Toast will want to land butter side down, object will
>>spin, cat will want to land feet first, object will spin. AD infinitum.
>>
>No, untrue. The cat will always land on its feet. Quantum mechanics
>requires that if you do the experiment it will always have a
>physically consistent result. It's called the "collapse of of the
>probability wave". Since a cat always lands on its feet, the only
>possible variable is the side of the bread that is buttered. If you do
>the experiment you will observe that pussy always lands on his feet.
>This conclusively proves that you will always have buttered the wrong
>side of the slice of bread.

But if the cat, with toast attached, is placed in a box...?

Forward motion, BTW, can be acheived by hanging a white shirt off the front
of the cat and then affixing a bottle of tomato sauce, sans cap, pointed in
the direction of the shirt, to the cat's head. In accordance with the
Universal Law, the shirt will exert a powerful attraction on the
tuckerfucker/pussy/toast/UFO assembly, thus pulling it through space.

Geoff

--
Actually, I do have spots.

Philip Crookes

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Dec 14, 2002, 8:08:27 PM12/14/02
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"PAM." <Junk...@Fishnchips.com> wrote in message
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> Butterred toast. Strap to back of cat, butter side up. Drop cat from
height. Toast will want to land butter side down, object will
> spin, cat will want to land feet first, object will spin. AD infinitum.
>
The fatal flaw in this argument is that you must first catch your cat. This
project also requires that you must have a slice of buttered toast attached
to a strap sufficient to go round an unwilling cat. This may mean that the
strap is several miles long. Or indeed kilometres, depending on your cat.

Having caught the cat, you must then take the buttered toast in the other
hand and strap it to the cat's back. However, you will first have to catch
your cat. Once you have caught the cat you can then pick up the buttered
toast and get ready to catch the cat again. By this time you have become
wise to the cat's behavior and so you will catch the cat again, and then
hold it in one hand while you clean as much of the butter off your fingers
as you can, locate the thinly buttered toast and the strap with the other,
and then with both hands full use the one that was holding the cat to locate
and restrain the cat. Having captured and restrained the cat, you can remove
the surplus butter from the carpet and bring the slightly buttered toast up
to where the cat was, wipe off the fluff that is sticking to the remaining
butter, and start the process of finding and restraining the cat. After ten
minutes of this, you will notice that the cat is sitting at the foot of the
stairs, washing itself and wondering why you are trying to strap a piece of
not very well buttered toast to all these cats.

This exercise is useful practice for the much more difficult task of getting
the cat into its travelling cage for a visit to the vet, which takes much
longer and involves flesh wounds.

Philip


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