Bull psychology
Jim Vincent
WEDNESDAY JANUARY 16 2002
Lecturer's past
Sunderland University is considering the future of Simone Bull, 27, a
new psychology lecturer from New Zealand, after it was revealed that
she was given a community service order six years ago for falsely
claiming to be a victim of satanic abuse.
Jim Vincent
James K
Does that mean she was found to be... simONE full of BULL ?
JK
John Cawston
I think this is the story:
http://www.menz.org.nz/Casualties/1995%20newsletters/April%2095.htm
"Woman realizes her satanic ritual memories are false
In 1991 Simone Doublett, a 17 year old school girl, attended psychologist
Lynne Haye for counseling following a
"near-breakdown" which she now believes was trggered by the death of her
brother from leukaemia. After several visits Simone
began to insinuate that there had been something sexual between her and
her father. By May 1992 the allegations had extended
to being abused by a satanic cult. Simone also developed multiple
personality disorder during the course of her therapy. Dr Haye
believed that Simone had the "indicators" of satanc abuse and beleived
the memories she was recovering in therapy were about
real events in Simone's past.
Following an ACC assessment in 1992, Simone received $10,000 lump sum
compensation and had $4000 worth of counseling
paid for by ACC over the next couple of years.
Simone herself fully believed in her own "memories" at the time. However
she later realised that they were in fact confabulations
and never really happened at all. In August 1993 she wrote to ACC saying
that her claims had been false. She also wrote to her
counsellor. Dr Haye believed Simone's story that the allegations were
false, but her 2 supervisors did not. One of them described
her withdrawl of the allegations as a predictable form of denial.
ACC initally had her pay back her compensation via a small weekly sum.
However in late 1994 she suddenly was charged with
fraud. On 14 March 1995 she was found guilty by the Christchurch High
Court and ordered to pay back $11,355 at $20 a week
and do 120 hours of community service. The court found that total
responsibility for the fraud lay with the defendant. Judge
Mahon said that he did not believe that it was possible for Simone to
ever have believed that the incidents hd happened.
Simone said that she first came to believe she was a victim when she
began reading books on ritual abuse. Although she does
not accuse her counsellor of implanting her false memories, she says that
Dr Haye supported her in her claims and never
challenged her beliefs, even when the allegations got more and more
complex, dreadful and bizarre.
Simone now has a B Sc in psychology and is one of 8 students attending
the University of Canterbury's clincial psychology
diploma programme. The Pyschologists Board has said it will not register
her once she has finished her 3 year course. This
decision has apparently been made on the basis of information on the case
obtained by the Board through the media. The Board
had not interviewed Simone. She has decided to complete her studies and
fight the Board's decision."
JC
Brian
wrote:
>I think this is the story:
>http://www.menz.org.nz/Casualties/1995%20newsletters/April%2095.htm
>"Woman realizes her satanic ritual memories are false
This woman is the one example of such a person that I know of, who was
honest enough to do the right thing. And that was nine years ago.
She voluntarily retracted; she voluntarily offered to pay back the
money, and the ACC decided to prosecute two years later. I know of NO
other person who was honest enough to do as she did.
And for that she is being used as a pawn in the current debate about
the reintroduction of lump sums. What she did so many years ago is
relevant to the current debate, (such as the article that you have
contributed, John) but what she is doing now (the content of the start
of this thread) is absolutely irrelevant.
This woman is the one woman of perhaps hundreds, or even thousands,
who does NOT deserve to be maliciously hounded, so many years later.
If this woman continues to be maliciously stalked, I would give
serious consideration to recommending to any other woman in the
position she was in 10 years ago to KEEP the money, and LIE. Honesty
is not appreciated or valued.
Brian
John Cawston
> On Sun, 20 Jan 2002 15:26:14 +1300, John Cawston <rewa...@ihug.co.nz>
> wrote:
>
> >I think this is the story:
> >http://www.menz.org.nz/Casualties/1995%20newsletters/April%2095.htm
> >"Woman realizes her satanic ritual memories are false
>
> This woman is the one example of such a person that I know of, who was
> honest enough to do the right thing. And that was nine years ago.
> She voluntarily retracted; she voluntarily offered to pay back the
> money, and the ACC decided to prosecute two years later. I know of NO
> other person who was honest enough to do as she did.
There is another reason for me posting it. I'll leave until later to
explain.
JC
Jim Vincent
wrote:
>Jim Vincent wrote:
If Doublett had been honest in her application for the position of
psychology lecturer it would not have been necessary for Sunderland
University to have an investigation into the appointment.
The University obviously did not check her references and also failed
to check with Canterbury University and the NZ The Pyschologists Board
so it is not surprising that this web is unravelling.
This seems most timely with concern about bogus degrees.
Just how honest has Doublett been with Sunderland University?
Jim Vincent
http://www.stuff.co.nz/inl/index/0,1008,1073239a1701,FF.html
Dominion
NEWS
19 JANUARY 2002
Abuse fraud woman's job investigated
By DAVID MCLOUGHLIN
Sunderland University in Britain is investigating the appointment as a
psychology lecturer of a New Zealand woman convicted in 1995 of
getting money from ACC by falsely claiming to be a victim of satanic
ritual abuse.
Former Canterbury and Victoria university student Simone Doublett was
recently appointed a lecturer in the school of social and
international studies at Sunderland University, south of Newcastle
upon Tyne.
Doublett, now 27, admitted in Christchurch District Court in March
1995 that she had invented a tale of being sexually abused in satanic
rituals to get counselling worth $4000 and a $10,000 lump sum from
ACC. She was sentenced to 120 hours of community service and ordered
to make reparation of $11,355 at $20 a week.
Doublett, who had a psychology degree, was then attending a
post-graduate clinical psychology course at Canterbury University. She
pulled out after the Psychologists' Board indicated it would not
register her. She later studied criminology at Victoria University.
A anonymous caller to The Dominion said Doublett was working at
Sunderland University.
Inquiries there revealed she was employed under the name Simone Bull,
which is understood to be her married name. Attempts to contact her
were unsuccessful.
University press officer Steve Heywood said she would not be talking
to the press. "Some matters have just been brought to our attention
relating to a recent appointee and we are currently considering them,"
he said yesterday.
Doublett began counselling with Christchurch psychologist Lynn Haye in
February 1991, about the time a moral panic in the city about child
abuse and ritual abuse was rising to a peak that culminated in early
1992 with allegations of mass abuse of children at the Christchurch
Civic Creche.
At the time, ACC paid $10,000 to people who said they had been
sexually abused, even if the abuse had not been reported to police or
an offender convicted. Lump sums were abolished in 1992 on suspicion
of widespread dubious claims, but similar payments, up to $100,000,
will be offered again from April 1.
Doublett's counselling continued till August 1993, two months after
Civic Creche worker Peter Ellis was sentenced to 10 years' jail for
abusing children. Satanic abuse allegations featured strongly in the
claims against him.
Doublett suddenly confessed to Dr Haye that she had made up her story.
ACC decided to prosecute her.
Her fantasy began with claims that her father had abused her. During
90 sessions with Dr Haye, she expanded that into claims of satanic
rites in which babies were killed, participants chanted and she was
sexually assaulted on an operating table.
Dr Haye told the court that she felt she was as qualified as anyone to
deal with what was being alleged. She had done research into satanic
abuse, attended conferences and read literature and in her opinion the
defendant had indicators of that abuse. "I suspect the defendant was
reading the same literature."
Dr Haye later said she no longer believed satanic or ritual abuse
occurred.
Megan Pledger
> > John Cawston <rewa...@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
> >
> > >I think this is the story:
> > >http://www.menz.org.nz/Casualties/1995%20newsletters/April%2095.htm
> > >"Woman realizes her satanic ritual memories are false
> >
> > This woman is the one example of such a person that I know of, who was
> > honest enough to do the right thing. And that was nine years ago.
> > She voluntarily retracted; she voluntarily offered to pay back the
> > money, and the ACC decided to prosecute two years later. I know of NO
> > other person who was honest enough to do as she did.
(Leaving aside the fact of "how would you know?")
The stupidity in this story means that there is a real disincentive now
to not retract your statement if you later believe it to be wrong.
M.
Brian
<mple...@ihug.co.nz> wrote:
>The stupidity in this story means that there is a real disincentive now
>to not retract your statement if you later believe it to be wrong.
Perhaps you meant to say
".... there is a real disincentive now to retract your statement if
you later believe it to be wrong" OR
".... there is a real incentive now to not retract your statement if
you later believe it to be wrong"
The ACC action taken was appalling.
Absolutely appalling.
Compounded by this thread.
Brian