peter sinclair and a peanut butter jar
Public Access User
I have over the years vaguely heard of an incident involving peter sinclair
and a peanut butter jar. I would like to know exactly what happened.
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Sarah King
I thought it was meant to be vegemite - after all he's a kiwi. but do we
really care?
Pete - atleast people are still asking after you - the new breed of tv
bimbo's haven't totally taken over!
Marty Faville
In article <55tq4s$8...@midland.co.nz>, pub...@hpl.govt.nz (Public Access
User) wrote:
> I have over the years vaguely heard of an incident involving peter sinclair
> and a peanut butter jar. I would like to know exactly what happened.
Urban legend, usually involves a marmite jar.
I asked Pete about it when I was 8 and sighted him on the beach in Taupo.
Actually a whole bunch of us asked him about it. From behind a tree.
Twenty feet away. He looked cross.
I hope that helps.
Marty.
_____________________________________________________________________
Marty Faville 'Once I have crushed all of my enemies,
Biology Department we'll see about getting you published..'
University of Waikato
Hamilton, New Zealand. Evil General Bison.
Douglas D@Waikato U
mfav...@waikato.ac.nz (Marty Faville) writes:
>pub...@hpl.govt.nz (Public Access User) wrote:
>
>> I have over the years vaguely heard of an incident involving peter sinclair
>> and a peanut butter jar. I would like to know exactly what happened.
>
> Urban legend, usually involves a marmite jar.
>
> I asked Pete about it when I was 8 and sighted him on the beach in Taupo.
> Actually a whole bunch of us asked him about it. From behind a tree.
> Twenty feet away. He looked cross.
>
> I hope that helps.
probably helps explain why we don't have Mastermind and/or
University Challenge on TV these days...
<sniff>...
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Sandra Young
In article <1996Nov8.1...@waikato.ac.nz>,
doug...@waikato.ac.nz (Douglas D@Waikato U) wrote:
>mfav...@waikato.ac.nz (Marty Faville) writes:
>>pub...@hpl.govt.nz (Public Access User) wrote:
>>
>>> I have over the years vaguely heard of an incident involving peter
sinclair
>>> and a peanut butter jar. I would like to know exactly what happened.
>>
>> Urban legend, usually involves a marmite jar.
>>
>> I asked Pete about it when I was 8 and sighted him on the beach in Taupo.
>> Actually a whole bunch of us asked him about it. From behind a tree.
>> Twenty feet away. He looked cross.
>>
>> I hope that helps.
>
> probably helps explain why we don't have Mastermind and/or
> University Challenge on TV these days...
>
> <sniff>...
>
Lincoln College (in those days not a university) entering with a Marmite jar
as their mascot. Before filming began they were taken aside by the producer
and told in no uncertain terms they would be out unless they got rid of the
offensive item.
Stuart Yeates
In article <55u80e$c...@midland.co.nz>, pub...@hpl.govt.nz (Public Access User) writes
|> This is not fucking helping. I dont give a stuff if you people care and I dont
|> give a fuck if it was a vegemite ,marmite or peanut butter jar. I just want to
|> know exactly what happened because alot of people seem to know about it but
|> arent very clear about it. I understand max cryer was somehow involved.
i hadn't heard the max cryer connection, but the versions i've heard
are likely to be classified as both porn and libel if they were posted,
and you're posting from a public access account which allows no email...
i strongly suspect that what we have hear is a genuine urban legend.
stuart
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Bruce Hoult
pub...@hpl.govt.nz (Public Access User) writes:
> I have over the years vaguely heard of an incident involving peter sinclair
> and a peanut butter jar. I would like to know exactly what happened.
Oh grow up. Everyone knows it was a marmite jar.
-- Bruce
--
...in 1996, software marketers wore out a record 31,296 copies of Roget's
Thesaurus searching for synonyms to the word "coffee" ...
steve...@vuw.ac.nz
stu...@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz (Stuart Yeates) wrote:
>i hadn't heard the max cryer connection, but the versions i've heard
>are likely to be classified as both porn and libel if they were posted,
>and you're posting from a public access account which allows no email...
>i strongly suspect that what we have hear is a genuine urban legend.
Surely the important detail is whether it was Crunchy or Smooth peanut butter.
steved
Public Access User
In article <1996Nov8.1...@waikato.ac.nz>,
doug...@waikato.ac.nz (Douglas D@Waikato U) wrote:
>mfav...@waikato.ac.nz (Marty Faville) writes:
>>pub...@hpl.govt.nz (Public Access User) wrote:
>>
sinclair
>>> and a peanut butter jar. I would like to know exactly what happened.
>>
>>
>> I asked Pete about it when I was 8 and sighted him on the beach in Taupo.
>> Actually a whole bunch of us asked him about it. From behind a tree.
>> Twenty feet away. He looked cross.
>>
>> I hope that helps.
>
> probably helps explain why we don't have Mastermind and/or
> University Challenge on TV these days...
>
> <sniff>...
>
give a fuck if it was a vegemite ,marmite or peanut butter jar. I just want to
know exactly what happened because alot of people seem to know about it but
arent very clear about it. I understand max cryer was somehow involved.
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Mark Glassborow
Before or after?
Simon Lyall
Public Access User (pub...@hpl.govt.nz) wrote:
>
>> probably helps explain why we don't have Mastermind and/or
>> University Challenge on TV these days...
I heard that at one point a team on University Chellenge had some sort of
marmite jar as a mascott and that Peter was not please and got it removed.
( hmm, maybe I should rephrase that :)
Anyway doesn't Peter host some sort of evening radio show these days?
>This is not fucking helping. I dont give a stuff if you people care and I dont
>give a fuck if it was a vegemite ,marmite or peanut butter jar. I just want to
>know exactly what happened because alot of people seem to know about it but
>arent very clear about it. I understand max cryer was somehow involved.
I hadn't heard about Max Cryer being involved. The main problem is that
you don't have a real-email address so we would have to post the story
publicly, and knowing our luck Peter or one of his mates would set their
lawers on us for defimation, and I don't have any sort of documentary
proof to the story (let alone money) to defend that sort of suit.
If you really want to know post (or email me) your name and phone number and
I'll ring you up and tell you, otherwise someone might post it anonymously.
Its interesting that the story is so well known, has anyone any sort of proof
as to how true it is or even some reference to a story on it somewhere?
MAgs like the Women's Weekly have columns where people ask information
about the stars, maybe I should write to one of them..
--
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"Inside me Im Screaming, Nobody pays any attention. " | MT.
Miche
In article <55ua3r$q...@cantuc.canterbury.ac.nz>
stu...@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz (Stuart Yeates) writes:
> In article <55u80e$c...@midland.co.nz>, pub...@hpl.govt.nz (Public Access User) writes
>
> |> This is not fucking helping. I dont give a stuff if you people care and I dont
> |> give a fuck if it was a vegemite ,marmite or peanut butter jar. I just want to
> |> know exactly what happened because alot of people seem to know about it but
> |> arent very clear about it. I understand max cryer was somehow involved.
>
> i hadn't heard the max cryer connection, but the versions i've heard
> are likely to be classified as both porn and libel if they were posted,
> and you're posting from a public access account which allows no email...
I have been emailed from the public access account the original poster
is using. The mail didn't make any sense.
No surprise there, I suppose.
Miche
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What I post is my opinion only.
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Public Access User
In article <84746110...@ocean.southern.co.nz>,
man...@ocean.southern.co.nz (Manfred Marriott) wrote:
>I feel sorry for the jar.
>
This is all very entertaining but im not getting the answers I want.
Get with the program.
Douglas D@Waikato U
nah. feel sorry for the newsadmins when someone asks why
alt.binaries.pictures.erotica.marmite.jar
isn't in the newsfeed anymore ;)
> --
> Manfred Marriott
> Christchurch, New Zealand
BlackRose
I really have no inclination to post anything for someone that is
being so rude.
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all...@schools.minedu.govt.nz
In Article <55ua3r$q...@cantuc.canterbury.ac.nz>
stu...@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz (Stuart Yeates) writes:
>In article <55u80e$c...@midland.co.nz>, pub...@hpl.govt.nz (Public Access User) writes
>|> This is not fucking helping. I dont give a stuff if you people care and I dont
>|> give a fuck if it was a vegemite ,marmite or peanut butter jar. I just want to
>|> know exactly what happened because alot of people seem to know about it but
>|> arent very clear about it. I understand max cryer was somehow involved.
This person (not you, Stuart - I can follow attributions) may be missing a
significant point here. The indeterminacy of the inserted object is a
critical indicator of an urban legend. I won't comment on how, on the
evidence above, their desire to "hear the story" is gloriously unencumbered
by the presence of anything resembling a critical faculty.
Oops, I guess that constitutes a comment. Never mind.
>i hadn't heard the max cryer connection, but the versions i've heard
>are likely to be classified as both porn and libel if they were posted,
>and you're posting from a public access account which allows no email...
That's never stopped discussion on alt.folklore.urban before. However a
warning to would-be posters to this thread: we are _not_ interested in dull
recitation of thrice-reheated gossip. The means by which it travels and
mutates, on the other hand, is grist to the mill. Think carefully before
posting, or adjust your followups accordingly. Anyone who merely parrots
their version of the story will find _they_ are considered as data, not the
story they have to tell.
The initiating post to this thread hasn't shown up on my feed yet, but I
get the impression the actual story has not been told but merely hinted at.
Never mind, AFU readers are sufficiently familiar with this type of story
not to need it spelled out for them.
>i strongly suspect that what we have hear is a genuine urban legend.
And indeed you should trust your instincts, Stuart. Some of the elements
that make this story a classic urban legend:
- There are _many_ _very_ similar stories about celebrities floating
around all over the world. This is the main reason why I've never raised
this story on AFU in the past; it's just too generic, and I had nothing
significant to add.
- There is characteristic dispute over detail, including who was involved,
and what the exact object was. Of course those who "know" it was a
Marmite jar will swear blind it _wasn't_ a Vegemite jar, like the two are
somehow different in any significant way to the story.
- It's the perfect FOAF (for non-AFU readers, that's Friend Of A Friend, as
in "I heard it from...") tale. Everybody who vectors the story is
convinced they could, by asking the person _they_ heard it from, be
placed immediately in touch with the doctor/nurse/whoever who WAS
ACTUALLY THERE!!! Need I say they are W R O N G ?
- The story's age is indeterminate. Peter Sinclair has been a public
figure for a long time - since the late 1960s at least. The story has
been around for probably more than half that time, if my recollection of
when I first heard it is anything to go by. Nevertheless, people who are
hearing it now are probably convinced it's recent.
By the way, Max Cryer's alleged involvement is probably based solely on his
presumed sexuality along with his presence in the same line of work as
Peter Sinclair. "Yeah, he had to be involved. They're all the same."
Steve "how can you tell them apart, when most of the time
you can't pick them out of a crowd in the first place" Caskey
--
Just another mindless public servant at the Ministry of Education
"If the Andrews Sisters, the Three Stooges and Vivienne Westwood were
trapped on a desert island for a weekend with a case of kiwifruit liqueur,
the resulting love child would be When The Cat's Been Spayed."
The Octopus Tribe
great doomed ad campaigns of our time:
"Peanut Butter - it's got to be good for you. If you don't like it,
stick it up your arse!"
My compliments (condiments?) to the surgeon involved.
Peter
Scooter
si...@darkmere.gen.nz (Simon Lyall) wrote:
>MAgs like the Women's Weekly have columns where people ask information
>about the stars, maybe I should write to one of them..
Hell if David Harnell doesn't know, nobody would!!<GRIN>
If you do get information I wouldn't mind knowing, I first heard the story
about 20 years ago.
I had a link to the Rectal Foreign Objects page, I will post it to you when
I find it.
Scooter
Scooter
si...@darkmere.gen.nz (Simon Lyall) wrote:
>Its interesting that the story is so well known, has anyone any sort of proof
>as to how true it is or even some reference to a story on it somewhere?
I found the URL to RECTAL FOREIGN OBJECTS:
www.well.com/user/cynsa/newbutt.html
I think there were a couple of NZ topics in there.
Scooter
Goopy
>>
>> probably helps explain why we don't have Mastermind and/or
>> University Challenge on TV these days...
>>
>> <sniff>...
>>
>Yes, whatever happened to University Challenge? I remember a team from
>Lincoln College (in those days not a university) entering with a Marmite jar
>as their mascot. Before filming began they were taken aside by the producer
>and told in no uncertain terms they would be out unless they got rid of the
>offensive item.
>
That's the lincoln spirit! :)
Mark Glassborow
Tim Wood wrote:
>
> Who gives a toss anyway if he did or didn't. How bout we discuss everybodys
> masturbation habits as well....jesus people get a life.
Tim, you've covered two religious topics there:
1. Masturbation habits - used by nuns I presume
2. Jesus People get a life
Which shall we discuss? ;>
Mark
Andrew M. Duncan
all...@schools.minedu.govt.nz wrote:
"Anyone who merely parrots their version of the story [in an Urban
Legends newsgroup] will find _they_ are considered as data, not the
story they have to tell."
Hear, hear!! This should be widely reprinted!
Andrew "for example, in clever interpolated pseudo-sigs" Duncan
Terry Smith
> From: all...@schools.minedu.govt.nz
> Date: Sat, 9 Nov 96 23:05:11 +1200
> - The story's age is indeterminate. Peter Sinclair has been
a
> public figure for a long time - since the late 1960s at
least.
> The story has been around for probably more than half that
time,
1971-2, in Hamilton, was the first time I heard it.
It was vectored as an 8 oz. _vegemite_ jar - Marmite wasn't that
readily available.
Terry
Frank van der Hulst
Public Access User wrote:
> >I feel sorry for the jar.
> >
Tough shit!
We're here for fun & entertainmemnt, not to provide answers to anonymous
questioners.
> Get with the program.
I suggest you figure out what the program is before you tell us to get
with it.
Tim Wood
fe.
>
>Tim, you've covered two religious topics there:
>
>1. Masturbation habits - used by nuns I presume
>2. Jesus People get a life
>
>Which shall we discuss? ;>
>
>Mark
-- Neither Nuns nor Christ hold much appeal im afraid...both featured in
early childhood schooldays I would rather forget....im still getting over
the loss of face for winning a prize in Divinity...then having to walk past all
my mates and their mothers to get handed it by the blood ripened (heart-attack
any moment teacher)....maybe thats why The Sex Pistols song 'Frigin in the
riggin' held so much more appeal at the time....
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Hansen, Jon-Paul
Hiya,
For anyone who cares there's an *excellent* urban legends WWW page out there.
All legends are cross referenced with similar tales etc.
The closest we get to the Marmite incident involves Richard Gere and a Gerbil.
Similar plot though...
Check it out at:
It's a great laugh, especially when a story from your subconscious is
remembered: "Oh- so that *wasn't* true afterall!"
There's several topics, from Disney / Disneyland (Walt is NOT cryogenically
frozen!!), to Sex, to University Exam legends, musicians / hidden lyrics etc
etc.
Check it out- it's my all time fav website!
Cheers
JP
Miche
In article <hansenjp.9...@lincoln.ac.nz>
hans...@lincoln.ac.nz (Hansen, Jon-Paul) writes:
> It's a great laugh, especially when a story from your subconscious is
> remembered: "Oh- so that *wasn't* true afterall!"
Urban legends aren't necessarily untrue. It's the manner of their
spread, and the way they change as they travel that makes them an urban
legend.
Go take a look at the alt.folklore.urban FAQ for a better explanation.
Hansen, Jon-Paul
Hi Again
>hans...@lincoln.ac.nz (Hansen, Jon-Paul) writes:
>> It's a great laugh, especially when a story from your subconscious is
>> remembered: "Oh- so that *wasn't* true afterall!"
>Urban legends aren't necessarily untrue. It's the manner of their
>spread, and the way they change as they travel that makes them an urban
>legend.
>Go take a look at the alt.folklore.urban FAQ for a better explanation.
Err, think you missed my point- I was referring to specific stories, such as
"Walt Disney is cryogenically frozen" or "Vicar tells Eric Clapton to practice
guitar before playing in his parish".
The Disney thing I'd always believed- and upon reading the true story of ol'
Walt's remains, felt a bit foolish- likewise with the story of EC & a local
vicar who meets Eric at home on a charity appeal, sees a guitar, Eric says
"would you like me to play in your church?"- the vicar replies "yes, I'll give
you a couple of months to practice". This very story made the front page of
the NZ Herald a few years back- and the Legend Page completely debunks the
story.
That was my point- I'm sure a very small minority of legends have true
beginnings- but attributing them all to "Chinese Whisper" type adulterations
is a bit naive.
Many of the ones I've heard have their origins (or have been circulating) for
tens of years- with very very little variation according to the WWW page.
Look, all I was saying is go check out the website- its great fun- UL's which
are based on fact are cross referenced too- its very informative!
Yours
JP
Scooter
Te...@gastro.apana.org.au (Terry Smith) wrote:
>1971-2, in Hamilton, was the first time I heard it.
>It was vectored as an 8 oz. _vegemite_ jar - Marmite wasn't that
>readily available.
The version I heard was that the empty jar was inserted open end in, thus
becoming vacuum locked into place and necessitating removal with forceps.
Details of removal of similar objects (including a light bulb) can be seen
at www.well.com/user/cynsa/newbutt.html
Scooter
Miche
> That was my point- I'm sure a very small minority of legends have true
> beginnings- but attributing them all to "Chinese Whisper" type adulterations
> is a bit naive.
Now I never said that. Just because I said *some* urban legends
started out as true stories, it doesn't mean I think *all* of them did.
Just like you never said just because *some* urban legends are untrue,
then *all* of them are.
Geac NZ Limited
Douglas D@Waikato U (doug...@waikato.ac.nz) wrote:
: mfav...@waikato.ac.nz (Marty Faville) writes:
: >pub...@hpl.govt.nz (Public Access User) wrote:
: >
: >> I have over the years vaguely heard of an incident involving peter sinclair
: >> and a peanut butter jar. I would like to know exactly what happened.
: >
: > Urban legend, usually involves a marmite jar.
: >
: > I asked Pete about it when I was 8 and sighted him on the beach in Taupo.
: > Actually a whole bunch of us asked him about it. From behind a tree.
: > Twenty feet away. He looked cross.
: >
: > I hope that helps.
I grew up in Christchurch, I recall reading the local paper (The Press),
about 15 or more years ago (on the front page), a article mentioning that
someone who fitted the description of Peter Sincliar was admitted to the
Christchurch hospital late one night,
following a 'accident' which left a household object lodged in his rectum.
It was reported by the paper that the Person may have been Mr Sinclair,
however his agent at the time denied that it was, although I believe there
were reports from staff at the hospital mentioned in the article who said
that Peter Sinclair was at the hospital at the time the patient was
being admitted. I think Peter Sincliar said, he was visiting a friend or
some such and angrily denied the suggestion he had had any thing removed
from his rectum at the hospital or been admitted to hospital
I cannot confirm, but Mr Sinclair may have been taken to the hospital by
Max Cryer, however I am not 100% certain of that fact, this may well explain
the Max Cryer involvement.
So, thats about the limit of my knowledge, it may be a urban myth, it may
not, given it was mentioned on the front page of the local paper, and that
names were named etc, so if the Press got it wrong, then one presumes they were
sued by Mr Sinclair for Defamation, if not then perhaps they were right?
If someone would care to read the back issues of the Press I am sure they
will find the relevant information. It had wide media coverage at the time as
I recall.
Hope it helps.
Geac NZ Limited
Geac NZ Limited (ge...@iconz.co.nz) wrote:
<about a arcticle that appeared in Christchurch some years about
a accident possibly involving Peter Sinclair from>
I forgot to add, this post has nothing whatsoever to do with Geac Computers
NZ Ltd, the previous post I made was from my [hazy] memory of a story 15 years
ago. And this is solely my input.
BTW: FWIW I am fairly certain there is a grain of truth to this story, however,
the true facts may well be stranger than the you might be lead to believe.
Public Access User
I think this is the case of the 'magic' marmite jar that entered somebody
elses arse went thru max cryers nose, which is how he got invloved, and ended
up in peter sinclairs rectum.
Tony Sutorius
sco...@taranaki.ac.nz (Scooter) had a good, hard think and this came
out...
>The version I heard was that the empty jar was inserted open end in, thus
>becoming vacuum locked into place and necessitating removal with forceps.
My understanding is that such foreign-object removals are almost never a
simple matter of pulling the offending (?) article out from whence it
came... tissue damage would likely result if the object was irregularly
shaped, or created a vacuum, or might break. Plus, and lets be honest, that
just wouldn't be ANY fun, nor necessarily send a strong enough message to
the insertee.
So, a surgical procedure is done where the oriface is cut open with a
scalpal. Ouch.
All of this reminds me of a story sold by a paramedic friend of mine.
Apparently he was called to a chap who was found to have a large plumber's
spring inserted in a similar manner. These springs are about an inch in
diameter and a number of inches long. Anyway, on further inspection the
spring was found to be buzzing in-situ. The buzzing was subsequently traced
to a very large blowfly that had apparently been inserted down the
spring...
Tony
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On Mon, 2 Dec 1996, Peter Metcalfe wrote:
> On Sat, 30 Nov 1996, Tony Sutorius wrote:
>
> : sco...@taranaki.ac.nz (Scooter) had a good, hard think and this came
> : out...
> :
> : >The version I heard was that the empty jar was inserted open end in,
> : >thus becoming vacuum locked into place and necessitating removal with
> : >forceps.
> :
> : My understanding is that such foreign-object removals are almost never a
> : simple matter of pulling the offending (?) article out from whence it
> : came... tissue damage would likely result if the object was irregularly
> : shaped, or created a vacuum, or might break. Plus, and lets be honest,
> : that just wouldn't be ANY fun, nor necessarily send a strong enough
> : message to the insertee.
> :
> : So, a surgical procedure is done where the oriface is cut open with a
> : scalpal. Ouch.
>
> Not necessarily. Instruments can be used to make the arsehole
> (both senses) wider than the object that was inserted. Surgical
> cutting is used as a last resort.
It seems to me that the first course to be tried by an Emergency
Department doc would be 1) liberal use of a muscle relaxant, such as IV
Valium. This would help relax the spasms caused by over-dilatation of
the rectal sphincters.
2) Something I happened to browse several months back: It was a print
article, complete with photographic reproductions of the floroscopy screen
used, showing how a large-bore foley catheter could be introduced into the
open mouth of the inserted jar (in this case, a cola bottle) under
floroscopic control. Once the catheter is satisfactorally placed the
balloon at the end of the cath is inflated and plaster of paris is
introduced through the catheter into the jar and allowed to set, firmly
attaching the cath to the jar. A second catheter is introduced to break
the vacuum in the bowel and the first cath is used to gently pull the jar
out.
A collateral thought: There is a significant underground trade amongst
radiology techs in "interesting" x-ray films. A friend of mine brings a
few new samples to a party each year (most of the revelers have medical
backgrounds). All the films have the patient names and other identifiers
carefully removed. This year's treats included several different
instances of vibrators that got away from their users and slipped up above
the second rectal sphincter. One of the photos was of a vibrator with an
end that not only hummed but wiggled as well.
Peter Metcalfe
On Sat, 30 Nov 1996, Tony Sutorius wrote:
: sco...@taranaki.ac.nz (Scooter) had a good, hard think and this came
: out...
:
: >The version I heard was that the empty jar was inserted open end in,
: >thus becoming vacuum locked into place and necessitating removal with
: >forceps.
:
: My understanding is that such foreign-object removals are almost never a
: simple matter of pulling the offending (?) article out from whence it
: came... tissue damage would likely result if the object was irregularly
: shaped, or created a vacuum, or might break. Plus, and lets be honest,
: that just wouldn't be ANY fun, nor necessarily send a strong enough
: message to the insertee.
:
: So, a surgical procedure is done where the oriface is cut open with a
: scalpal. Ouch.
Not necessarily. Instruments can be used to make the arsehole
(both senses) wider than the object that was inserted. Surgical
cutting is used as a last resort.
--Peter Metcalfe
Andrew Mayo
A disgusting topic yet somehow the black humour is sorta irresistable.
I had a nurse friend who told me the #1 favoured object is in fact the
cucumber. Unfortunately this has to be removed with monotonous
regularity after breaking in half during 'use'. The procedure of
course has to be accomplished with a straight face; I imagine trainee
nurses have some sort of cultural sensitivity video on the topic so
they don't lose it when confronted with their first case. So now you
know what those long queues at A&E are waiting for.
Tony Sutorius
Peter Metcalfe <misc...@student.canterbury.ac.nz> had a good, hard think
and this came out...
>: So, a surgical procedure is done where the oriface is cut open with a
>: scalpal. Ouch.
>Not necessarily. Instruments can be used to make the arsehole
>(both senses) wider than the object that was inserted. Surgical
>cutting is used as a last resort.
Geeze, that sounds like the definitive voice of experiance. One fears to
speculate which end of the forceps....
(:
Scooter
to...@central.co.nz (Tony Sutorius) wrote:
>sco...@taranaki.ac.nz (Scooter) had a good, hard think and this came
>out...
>>The version I heard was that the empty jar was inserted open end in, thus
>>becoming vacuum locked into place and necessitating removal with forceps.
>My understanding is that such foreign-object removals are almost never a
>simple matter of pulling the offending (?) article out from whence it
>came... tissue damage would likely result if the object was irregularly
>shaped, or created a vacuum, or might break. Plus, and lets be honest, that
>just wouldn't be ANY fun, nor necessarily send a strong enough message to
>the insertee.
>So, a surgical procedure is done where the oriface is cut open with a
>scalpal. Ouch.
I believe this time the bottom of the jar was drilled to release
the vacuum/pressure or it was rotated with a pair of forceps.
Yuletide felicitations
from Scooter.
David McLoughlin
Scooter wrote:
> I believe this time the bottom of the jar was drilled to release
> the vacuum/pressure or it was rotated with a pair of forceps.
>
My god, Scooter, you were there? At the creation of an urban legend? Tell
us more.
David McLoughlin
Auckland
Bryce Burrows
In article <Pine.SV4.3.95.961202115921.3071A-100000@cantua>, Peter
Metcalfe <misc...@student.canterbury.ac.nz> writes
>: My understanding is that such foreign-object removals are almost never a
>: simple matter of pulling the offending (?) article out from whence it
>: came... tissue damage would likely result if the object was irregularly
>: shaped, or created a vacuum, or might break. Plus, and lets be honest,
>: that just wouldn't be ANY fun, nor necessarily send a strong enough
>: message to the insertee.
>:
>: So, a surgical procedure is done where the oriface is cut open with a
>: scalpal. Ouch.
>
>(both senses) wider than the object that was inserted. Surgical
>cutting is used as a last resort.
>
>
well..from my radiology lecture(s) i recall a brass doorknob
being removed by the use of plaster of paris and something to
pull with of course.
but lets not let facts stand in the way of a good story..hell just check
out the rest of the nz newsgroups
Bryce
Life is like an old beer bottle you find in the back yard;
if you lift it up and peer into it...
it dribbles in your eye.
Frank van der Hulst
David McLoughlin wrote:
> Scooter wrote:
> > I believe this time the bottom of the jar
Or was that the jar of the bottom?
> > was drilled to release
> > the vacuum/pressure or it was rotated with a pair of forceps.
Drilling doesn't sound likely to me... in those days, all jars were made
of glass, not plastic. Anyone successfully drilled a hole through glass?
> My god, Scooter, you were there?
There??? Hell, it was *his* jar!
> At the creation of an urban legend? Tell us more.
Tell??? No! We want GIFs, WAVs, MPEGs!
Peter Metcalfe
to...@central.co.nz (Tony Sutorius) writes:
: Peter Metcalfe <misc...@student.canterbury.ac.nz: had a good, hard think
: and this came out...
:
::: So, a surgical procedure is done where the oriface is cut open with a
::: scalpal. Ouch.
:
::Not necessarily. Instruments can be used to make the arsehole
::(both senses) wider than the object that was inserted. Surgical
::cutting is used as a last resort.
: Geeze, that sounds like the definitive voice of experiance. One fears to
: speculate which end of the forceps....
too can acquire the "voice of experience" by looking at:
http://www.well.com/user/cynsa/newbutt.html
It's been posted to this thread before (Scooter, I believe)
: (:
[Checks headers]
An emoticon? On afu? I'm surprised you're stil living...
--Peter Metcalfe
ins...@super.zippo.com
"DONALD L. AYRTON" <DAY...@wesleyan.edu> wrote:
> > 2) Something I happened to browse several months back: It was a print
> article, complete with photographic reproductions of the floroscopy screen
> used, showing how a large-bore foley catheter could be introduced into the
> open mouth of the inserted jar (in this case, a cola bottle) under
> floroscopic control. Once the catheter is satisfactorally placed the
> balloon at the end of the cath is inflated and plaster of paris is
> introduced through the catheter into the jar and allowed to set, firmly
> attaching the cath to the jar. A second catheter is introduced to break
> the vacuum in the bowel and the first cath is used to gently pull the jar
> out.
Hmm, I would have though that plaster of paris would be notably
*unsuitable* due to both pH and exothermic effects (for a start)
<sudden cascade of unpleasant possibilities ensues>
In fact, the more I think about it, the less I would like to use
plaster of paris in this application. A citation would be most
welcome. I may learn something I can put to use.
Alan Brown
In article <32A4AA...@pec.co.nz>,
Frank van der Hulst <fra...@pec.co.nz> wrote:
>Drilling doesn't sound likely to me... in those days, all jars were made
>of glass, not plastic. Anyone successfully drilled a hole through glass?
Yup. You need a damn sharp bit (preferably diamond tipped) and plain
steel ones won't work.
A nursing friend claims to have admitted Peter Sincliar to Greenlane's A&E
in the 60's with a foreign object inserted rectally (not a peanut butter
jar). I've quizzed her a few times about it and she's quite sure it was
him - and he was admitted as "Peter Sinclair" too.
AB
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Geoff Rait
Scooter (sco...@taranaki.ac.nz) writes:
>The version I heard was that the empty jar was inserted open end in, thus
>becoming vacuum locked into place and necessitating removal with forceps.
Couldn't they have just fed him prunes? Might have taken a while,
but he could have been NZ's first astronaut!
Geoff :-)
Billy Chambless
|> Drilling doesn't sound likely to me... in those days, all jars were made
|> of glass, not plastic. Anyone successfully drilled a hole through glass?
Yes. All you need is the proper bit, a variable-speed drill, and some
patience.
|> Tell??? No! We want GIFs, WAVs, MPEGs!
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Barbara Mikkelson
Billy Chambless <bi...@cast.msstate.edu> wrote:
> Welcome to "Anal Impactions of the Rich and Famous"
I'll take "Rear Admirals" for $100.
Barbara "can I vye a bowel?" Mikkelson
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